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Flybe CANCELS MAN-BRU Service w/e 09Sep2012
flyBe to Cancel Manchester – Brussels Service from September 2012
Posted: 16 Aug 2012 01:35 PM PDT
Update at 2040GMT 16AUG12
flyBe starting 10SEP12 is cancelling Manchester – Brussels service, where it currently operates up to 11 weekly service on board Dash8-Q400 aircraft.
Schedule until 09SEP12:
BE593 MAN0715 – 0945BRU DH4 x67
BE597 MAN1715 – 1945BRU DH4 x6
BE594 BRU1015 – 1050MAN DH4 x67
BE598 BRU2015 – 2050MAN DH4 x6
Source: Worldairlineroutes online.
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Astonished by the MAN-BRU cancel. As a frequent user of these flights, they are for the most part, busy. Wonder why? Surely we can't just be reliant on the few SN over-priced rotations?
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Now impossible to do a day-return. I do this usually twice/week since last October. Early morning landing, later 8pmish departure has worked really well. Seems the only options now are FR via CRL, no thanks! I wonder if SN intend do bring in more rotations themselves...
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If BE were to relocate to a muddy field down a potholed farm track in darkest Antrim
Bloody good job it is there for when the bucko's down the road decide you aren't worth waiting for.......ar$e...
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MAN-BRU is just the first of a number of cuts coming in the next 4 days.
With a £20m loss on the cards this year something has to be done or next year it could be a £30m or £40m loss the way Europe is going.
statement this afternoon says....
"Flybe can confirm that it is cancelling its Manchester to Brussels service with the last flight operating on Sunday September 9th.
"Flybe carefully reviews the viability of all its 200 plus routes on a regular basis, taking into consideration passenger numbers and external cost pressures. This is done not only to monitor where it can offer increased regularity on any given route, but also where passenger numbers make a route uneconomical."
With a £20m loss on the cards this year something has to be done or next year it could be a £30m or £40m loss the way Europe is going.
statement this afternoon says....
"Flybe can confirm that it is cancelling its Manchester to Brussels service with the last flight operating on Sunday September 9th.
"Flybe carefully reviews the viability of all its 200 plus routes on a regular basis, taking into consideration passenger numbers and external cost pressures. This is done not only to monitor where it can offer increased regularity on any given route, but also where passenger numbers make a route uneconomical."
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MAN-BRU cut
So after cutting SOU-BRU and SOU-FRA its now MAN-BRU. Do Flybe have any major French shareholders as there seems to be only one country they want to fly to!? Maybe Jim French, the most aptly named chairman in aviation history,has a chateau over there.
This latest cut gives passengers less than 4 weeks to book alternative flights, at presumably inflated prices due to the late booking. What about punters who now will decide not to fly and cant get their hotel costs refunded? Will Flybe refund hotel costs?, dont make me laugh! And no, i dont have a booking on the MAN-BRU flight but i did have ones on SOU-BRU, and SOU-FRA.
Cut a route by all means if it isnt paying but have the damn decency to give people more notice than this. It doesnt give you much confidence to book a Flybe flight for the future does it? Any bookies taking odds on the next airline to go belly up??
This latest cut gives passengers less than 4 weeks to book alternative flights, at presumably inflated prices due to the late booking. What about punters who now will decide not to fly and cant get their hotel costs refunded? Will Flybe refund hotel costs?, dont make me laugh! And no, i dont have a booking on the MAN-BRU flight but i did have ones on SOU-BRU, and SOU-FRA.
Cut a route by all means if it isnt paying but have the damn decency to give people more notice than this. It doesnt give you much confidence to book a Flybe flight for the future does it? Any bookies taking odds on the next airline to go belly up??
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MAN-BRU
hampshireandy
Re MAN-BRU and for that matter BHX-HAM, SOU-FRA & LBA-NOC these have been off-sale for quite a while.
Somebody else reported MAN-BRU first but I repeated it about a month ago but airlineroute.net picked up on it only this week.
I can't find my post and I can't remember if I posted on the flybe, Manchester or Birmingham thread (as part of the Hamburg news).
I would say it was June or early July but not this week.
Pete
Re MAN-BRU and for that matter BHX-HAM, SOU-FRA & LBA-NOC these have been off-sale for quite a while.
Somebody else reported MAN-BRU first but I repeated it about a month ago but airlineroute.net picked up on it only this week.
I can't find my post and I can't remember if I posted on the flybe, Manchester or Birmingham thread (as part of the Hamburg news).
I would say it was June or early July but not this week.
Pete
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I'm sure they'll offer to put them on SN's MAN-BRU what with their leasing arrangements.
If you're still after a bookmaker Hampshireandy I'm more than happy to take your money from you, I'll give you fantastic odds.
If you're still after a bookmaker Hampshireandy I'm more than happy to take your money from you, I'll give you fantastic odds.
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Winter 2012/3
I would guess something is in progress as the booking engine does not match the timetable on BHX flights.
BHX changes: -
Waterford moved on Mon/Wed/Fri to a 10.10 departure (credit Jamie2k9 for pointing that out).
Mon-Fri BE404/5 BHX based 195 moved to lunchtime as a BHD based 195.
BHX-Inverness 14.05 BHX departure in the week on a BHX based Q400 is now on an Inverness based Q400 and ties in with the INV-MAN service leaving INV-AMS not fitting into the schedule (Ideal route to operate BHX-AMS-INV-AMS-BHX leaving BHX 10.30 ish returning 17.00).
Interestingly 175's showing in the morning as BHX-DUS, BHX-STR & BHX-GLA (one more than now) and the first BHX-BHD which was due to revert to the Q400 shown as a 195. BHD-BHX when fully operating is 7 x 195 and for winter was showing as 3 x Q400 and 4 x 195 but now only one Q400 (14.25/17.00) is indicated per the seating plan.
BHX-Milan has been re-timed back an hour, similar to the summer timings but as the 175.
Pete
BHX changes: -
Waterford moved on Mon/Wed/Fri to a 10.10 departure (credit Jamie2k9 for pointing that out).
Mon-Fri BE404/5 BHX based 195 moved to lunchtime as a BHD based 195.
BHX-Inverness 14.05 BHX departure in the week on a BHX based Q400 is now on an Inverness based Q400 and ties in with the INV-MAN service leaving INV-AMS not fitting into the schedule (Ideal route to operate BHX-AMS-INV-AMS-BHX leaving BHX 10.30 ish returning 17.00).
Interestingly 175's showing in the morning as BHX-DUS, BHX-STR & BHX-GLA (one more than now) and the first BHX-BHD which was due to revert to the Q400 shown as a 195. BHD-BHX when fully operating is 7 x 195 and for winter was showing as 3 x Q400 and 4 x 195 but now only one Q400 (14.25/17.00) is indicated per the seating plan.
BHX-Milan has been re-timed back an hour, similar to the summer timings but as the 175.
Pete
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Is BHD receiving a 3rd based E95 for Winter? When booking flights earlier, I noticed that a few of the MANs are showing E95 seatmaps, and the 475 (11.00 dep) seems to have stopped for winter - I would assume this is to operate the 405 BHX as mentioned above.
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Does that leave 2 or 1 at SOU!? SOU seems to have quite a few cuts for the W12 vs W11.
Gains daily Q400 to Nantes
Loses:
5 weekly IOM
5 weekly BRU
6 weekly FRA
1 weekly BRN
Plus GVA and CMF are down to just 1 flight Sat and 1 flight Sun, last year there was at least double that in the peak season!
Its a shame SOU is so dependant on Flybe, was great at first when they were constantly expanding but they are really feeling the pinch now with all the cutbacks.
Gains daily Q400 to Nantes
Loses:
5 weekly IOM
5 weekly BRU
6 weekly FRA
1 weekly BRN
Plus GVA and CMF are down to just 1 flight Sat and 1 flight Sun, last year there was at least double that in the peak season!
Its a shame SOU is so dependant on Flybe, was great at first when they were constantly expanding but they are really feeling the pinch now with all the cutbacks.
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Is it such a good idea to increase the size of aircraft on the Man-Bhd route especially since easy now competes with them, why expand now when they have competition and not when baby dropped it and they had no other completion, seems silly to me
