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How to land Concorde at LBA.
YouTube - Concorde
Crew on this one obviously working to a landing distance on 14 of about 2100m. If they ever get round to flatening the glideslope on 14, approaches like this might be more commonplace.
YouTube - Concorde
Crew on this one obviously working to a landing distance on 14 of about 2100m. If they ever get round to flatening the glideslope on 14, approaches like this might be more commonplace.
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Keep them coming Richard 
ps. Shame no-one could have filmed the Ryanair GA late on Thursday night. It was quite a ride in there!
ps. Shame no-one could have filmed the Ryanair GA late on Thursday night. It was quite a ride in there!
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Folks. Please stop the practice of using this thread to post pics that do not relate to LBA.
Those that have, and there may be one or two that DO relate to LBA because it is too time consuming to take them out, have been moved to the Spotters forum.
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Those that have, and there may be one or two that DO relate to LBA because it is too time consuming to take them out, have been moved to the Spotters forum.
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Unless I have missed something PPRuNe Pop (which is a possibility - I can be a fool and perhaps you have deleted some posts that were not apt) I have not observed any images on this thread that don't relate to LBA.
I have observed many marvellous links from FlyingYorkshireman that all appear to have enjoyed yet the mods seem to have pulled the posts that seems a tad harsh to me.
Perhaps they do belong under spotters corner but gentle touch eh?
Here is my humble contrib.
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I have observed many marvellous links from FlyingYorkshireman that all appear to have enjoyed yet the mods seem to have pulled the posts that seems a tad harsh to me.
Perhaps they do belong under spotters corner but gentle touch eh?
Here is my humble contrib.
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I have not observed any images on this thread that don't relate to LBA.
Very well said Strelnikov!!! i agree, i havent seen a single thread or image posted on this page that had nothing to do with LBA....All the threads on this page are relevant, Maybe the Mod was just having a bad day!!!!
I have not observed any images on this thread that don't relate to LBA.
Very well said Strelnikov!!! i agree, i havent seen a single thread or image posted on this page that had nothing to do with LBA....All the threads on this page are relevant, Maybe the Mod was just having a bad day!!!!
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No, the mod was not having a bad day!
I repeat. We have a forum for spotters but it is NOT this one.
Just so that there is no future misunderstanding. This forum is for news on AIRPORTS, AIRLINES and ROUTES. It is not a spotters paradise for showing off, albeit, good pictures, except an occasional one that absolutely fits a specific and topical story.
Lately, this forum is has lost its way and this post is to remind you where the right way is.
Let's be clear. No-one is trying to stop you posting pictures. Just do it in the right forum please.
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I repeat. We have a forum for spotters but it is NOT this one.
Just so that there is no future misunderstanding. This forum is for news on AIRPORTS, AIRLINES and ROUTES. It is not a spotters paradise for showing off, albeit, good pictures, except an occasional one that absolutely fits a specific and topical story.
Lately, this forum is has lost its way and this post is to remind you where the right way is.
Let's be clear. No-one is trying to stop you posting pictures. Just do it in the right forum please.
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LBA Transatlantic service
Leeds Bradford transatlantic flights ‘next year’
08.05.09
Leeds Bradford Airport will have a direct scheduled transatlantic service by the end of next year, its commercial director told TTG. Tony Hallwood said the airport was talking to one North American airline and one UK carrier about operating a regular Toronto service starting next year. He said the airport was also in talks with US airlines about operating a New York service.
Jet2 ran a number of one-off Christmas shopping flights to New York last year, but Mr Hallwood told the trade publication that the airport could support a scheduled operation. He said: ‘We have a large catchment area and our aim is to stop the leakage of traffic across the Pennines to Manchester. We have 2.8 million passengers now and we are confident it will be five million by 2012.’
He said that the airport is also targeting short-haul expansion to Germany, Italy, Spain, France and Scandinavia, and the airport was talking to ‘a number’ of no-frills airlines about Frankfurt, Hamburg and Copenhagen services.
08.05.09
Leeds Bradford Airport will have a direct scheduled transatlantic service by the end of next year, its commercial director told TTG. Tony Hallwood said the airport was talking to one North American airline and one UK carrier about operating a regular Toronto service starting next year. He said the airport was also in talks with US airlines about operating a New York service.
Jet2 ran a number of one-off Christmas shopping flights to New York last year, but Mr Hallwood told the trade publication that the airport could support a scheduled operation. He said: ‘We have a large catchment area and our aim is to stop the leakage of traffic across the Pennines to Manchester. We have 2.8 million passengers now and we are confident it will be five million by 2012.’
He said that the airport is also targeting short-haul expansion to Germany, Italy, Spain, France and Scandinavia, and the airport was talking to ‘a number’ of no-frills airlines about Frankfurt, Hamburg and Copenhagen services.
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Transatlantic Flights
Great news for Leeds/Bradford Airport, for both Business and the Leisure Industry. I now hope the Chief Planning Officer at the Council will not be long with the Terminal Planning Application
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I now hope the Chief Planning Officer at the Council will not be long with the Terminal Planning Application.
I agree, without their pemission, the development wont go ahead....this needs to be looked at with "forward thinking" and for the good of the airport...it would be nice to see LBA brought upto date!!! and starting to be used as a serious airport.......
I now hope the Chief Planning Officer at the Council will not be long with the Terminal Planning Application.
I agree, without their pemission, the development wont go ahead....this needs to be looked at with "forward thinking" and for the good of the airport...it would be nice to see LBA brought upto date!!! and starting to be used as a serious airport.......
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Transatlantic flights
A New York service sounds good in theory, but this sort of fragmentation of traffic across UK airports which are too close together in a small country benefits no-one once the economic circle has turned fully about. If LBA gets a New York service, no doubt there'll be fanfares and low fares and much civic rejoicing - for about a year. Then the marginal nature of the route will become apparent and it will be dropped, taking with it the remaining few transatlantics out of MAN, which will have suffered market leeching. The North of England will thus lose its remaining New York services and we'll all have to go to London or connect over AMS/CDG. There is only room for one viable long-haul gateway to serve the north of England. It's Manchester, or else it's London.
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Leeds or London then please.
I don't see why we should continue to support the north west of England at our expense. You get far more than your fair share of airline traffic, and far more than your fair share of government investment for all other forms of transport.
I don't see why we should continue to support the north west of England at our expense. You get far more than your fair share of airline traffic, and far more than your fair share of government investment for all other forms of transport.
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Leeds or London then please.
I like your style BKS....I agree with you entirely......
I dont suppose that Bridgepoint have just come up with this idea to start Transatlantic flights without first of all doing some market research, and if we do leech some pax's from Man, then so be it...there is nothing in the airport code of practice that states that no airport is allowed to pinch passangers from rival airports.....surley if LBA can support a Transatlantic route, then they should be supported and encouraged.....the problem with Manchester is...... they have had the monopoly on travel for such a long time and when another airport offers the same or similar long haul service they dont like it, and for some reason feel threatened by a small regional airport, If pax's want to fly from Manchester they will...but for those of us that want to fly from Leeds/Bradford we now have the option to choose....surely this is not a bad thing....Well-done LBA for the forsight and determination to grow and develope further routes from our region
Leeds or London then please.
I like your style BKS....I agree with you entirely......
I dont suppose that Bridgepoint have just come up with this idea to start Transatlantic flights without first of all doing some market research, and if we do leech some pax's from Man, then so be it...there is nothing in the airport code of practice that states that no airport is allowed to pinch passangers from rival airports.....surley if LBA can support a Transatlantic route, then they should be supported and encouraged.....the problem with Manchester is...... they have had the monopoly on travel for such a long time and when another airport offers the same or similar long haul service they dont like it, and for some reason feel threatened by a small regional airport, If pax's want to fly from Manchester they will...but for those of us that want to fly from Leeds/Bradford we now have the option to choose....surely this is not a bad thing....Well-done LBA for the forsight and determination to grow and develope further routes from our region
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I have to agree it sounds like sour grapes to me. I think MAN did not expect PIA to start a service direct from LBA and for it to do as well as it is. If we were to get a New York I'm sure that would do well too, as for falling after a year look at BRS dont CO still do the New York from there? Hasn't that been running over a year? Yes MAN would loose some pax as they have on the Islamabad, but PIA still operate from MAN do they not! There is room for these routes from both airports. Don't be too surprised to see a Dubai in the next couple of years either.
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Indeed, CO are still doing BRS-EWR daily direct- you have to remember BRS has about 3x the passenger throughput of LBA though, and the next closest 'big' airport (Heathrow) is farther from Bristol than Manchester is from LBA.
Having said that (and having lived in both Leeds and Bristol and used both city's airports), Leeds and Bristol are similar in terms of the kinds of companies establishing themselves in the city, and the BRS flight does very well from incoming American business travellers, so I would imagine a Leeds service would too.
It all depends on the carrier and frequency though. If it's not an airline that affords easy connections all over the USA (*A or Skyteam member), and the route is not frequent enough, it will fail.
Having said that (and having lived in both Leeds and Bristol and used both city's airports), Leeds and Bristol are similar in terms of the kinds of companies establishing themselves in the city, and the BRS flight does very well from incoming American business travellers, so I would imagine a Leeds service would too.
It all depends on the carrier and frequency though. If it's not an airline that affords easy connections all over the USA (*A or Skyteam member), and the route is not frequent enough, it will fail.
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The CO BRS-EWR reaches its fourth anniversary next week (daily March-October and 5 x weekly November-February).
For much of the time the loads have been reasonably good, some months excellent (CAA stats), but for the most part not quite as good as the other UK regional airports on this route.
However, it is rumoured the airline struck a good deal (for them) with the airport so it would seem they have been happy to have kept it running for four years.
It's not rocket science to suggest the current economic turmoil will be a major test of its sustainability.
BRS and LBA share many similarities and as LBA has MAN, BRS has LHR, a much bigger airport with many more options than MAN, so perhaps in that repect LBA might be better placed than BRS because LHR does see a lot of transatlantic travellers from the Bristol area who, for varying reasons, don't use their local CO service.
For much of the time the loads have been reasonably good, some months excellent (CAA stats), but for the most part not quite as good as the other UK regional airports on this route.
However, it is rumoured the airline struck a good deal (for them) with the airport so it would seem they have been happy to have kept it running for four years.
It's not rocket science to suggest the current economic turmoil will be a major test of its sustainability.
BRS and LBA share many similarities and as LBA has MAN, BRS has LHR, a much bigger airport with many more options than MAN, so perhaps in that repect LBA might be better placed than BRS because LHR does see a lot of transatlantic travellers from the Bristol area who, for varying reasons, don't use their local CO service.
I am pleased to say I feel very encouraged by Mr Hallwood's announcements. Having been an LBA employee in various forms for over thirteen years, I admit to becoming increasingly weary and cynical about LBA ever being taken seriously by anyone other than Jet2.
Flybe's new Gatwick service is also welcome news. It cannot be allowed to fail so both airports' mangament teams, not to mention Flybe's, had better make sure it doesn't. I would expect Flybe to establish a base at LBA before too long. They had one before in the JEA F27 days so with more rotations and hopefully more destinations in Germany and Scandinavia it would be the obvious route to go down. What a nice problem it would be for LBA bosses to deal with if they ran out stands for overnight parking.
I maintain that the existing terminal should be demolished and a new one built on top of the short stay 2 car park but I don't suppose it will happen.
It still rankles somewhat that the holiday flights, Thomas Cook, Thomson, First Choice Holidays etc are lacking. It's been like this for years. Whilst Jet2 cover a good deal of the European hotspots they don't do them all so the potential is there. I know we're in a recession but the UK's comparable regionals, i.e BRS, NCL and EMA do far better in this respect. And with based budget airlines. I love Manchester Airport but for once, to hell with it. Let's see LBA do more than hold its own here and get a variety of tailfins.
Flybe's new Gatwick service is also welcome news. It cannot be allowed to fail so both airports' mangament teams, not to mention Flybe's, had better make sure it doesn't. I would expect Flybe to establish a base at LBA before too long. They had one before in the JEA F27 days so with more rotations and hopefully more destinations in Germany and Scandinavia it would be the obvious route to go down. What a nice problem it would be for LBA bosses to deal with if they ran out stands for overnight parking.
I maintain that the existing terminal should be demolished and a new one built on top of the short stay 2 car park but I don't suppose it will happen.
It still rankles somewhat that the holiday flights, Thomas Cook, Thomson, First Choice Holidays etc are lacking. It's been like this for years. Whilst Jet2 cover a good deal of the European hotspots they don't do them all so the potential is there. I know we're in a recession but the UK's comparable regionals, i.e BRS, NCL and EMA do far better in this respect. And with based budget airlines. I love Manchester Airport but for once, to hell with it. Let's see LBA do more than hold its own here and get a variety of tailfins.
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" What a nice problem it would be for LBA bosses to deal with if they ran out stands for overnight parking. "
Its getting that way this summer isnt it?
Parking a 757 on 22L or even on stand 19. In my opinion the new apron was a waste of money. You cant even get 2 large aircraft next to each other without using non standard procedures!
Its getting that way this summer isnt it?
Parking a 757 on 22L or even on stand 19. In my opinion the new apron was a waste of money. You cant even get 2 large aircraft next to each other without using non standard procedures!