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Old 15th Dec 2012, 20:34
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Jet2 fly to Geneva throughout the summer months so you dont need to use MAN
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Old 16th Dec 2012, 09:05
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Depends when exactly you want to go to GVA. The route isn't fully year round, stopping for around a month from mid-April to mid-May and then again from mid-September to December

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Old 16th Dec 2012, 09:06
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Jet2 fly to Geneva throughout the summer months so you dont need to use MAN
Indeed they do but a single flight on a Saturday isn't much use for a Monday-Friday commute

As for security, it makes no difference, airside or landside, it has to be gone through again.
But when arriving from Manchester into T5 I don't have to go through security at all - a quick boarding card check at the bottom of the escalators and you're in the departure lounge in less than 5 mins from doors open
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Old 16th Dec 2012, 10:40
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Slightly irritating to read some of the cynical responses to the new LHR-Leeds route. From my point of view its refreshing to see extra flights from the regions opening up options for worldwide onward travel from Heathrow. Some people moan for years wanting the service back and then when it does start up moan again because it may not suit them 100%!! Some people on here and indeed other forums are becoming far too precious. How appalling to have to walk a short distannce for a connection or heavens above actually take a short bus ride!! For most of us we are grateful to have the opportunity to fly occasionally on leisure or business and find it enjoyable nearly all the time. For me travelling is just as much fun as getting there. Maybe those who have to travel so often become jaded. Do remember though, we always have a choice about what we do and when we do it.
Maybe its my fault for being relaxed about such matters and treating most difficulties good and bad as part of day to day life experiences that have have to be dealt with.
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Old 16th Dec 2012, 11:01
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I'd love the route to be a success, but I've received emails today for my flights in May neatly destroying my connections.

Service appears to be reduced to 3 flights daily (2 on Sat), with first flight down at 11:35!
It always was planned to 3 x daily for the summer; It's only 4 daily for winter so they can keep a slot warm, which is why you have 2 afternoon flights within a couple of hours of each other.
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Old 16th Dec 2012, 13:23
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Slightly irritating to read some of the cynical responses to the new LHR-Leeds
route. From my point of view its refreshing to see extra flights from the
regions opening up options for worldwide onward travel from Heathrow. Some
people moan for years wanting the service back and then when it does start up
moan again because it may not suit them 100%!! Some people on here and indeed other forums are becoming far too precious. How appalling to have to walk a short distannce for a connection or heavens above actually take a short bus ride!!
Cynical ? Moi ??

I'd love the service to work but it just doesn't for me (and I'd be a weekly passenger) - as an example that I've just checked for January the LBA-LHR-GVA and return costs me more than the MAN-LHR-GVA equivalent and the overall return journey time is 10h25m from LBA vs 7h30m from MAN. Whilst the driving distance from York to Manchester is further the Valet Car Parking at MAN is both cheaper and closer than Long Term at LBA cancelling out most of the additional mileage cost/time.

When I'm travelling for pleasure things may be different but at the moment time is money and on that basis BA from LBA is not for me
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Old 16th Dec 2012, 15:04
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Why fly LBA-GVA via LHR with British Airways when both Jet2 and easyjet now offer direct flights?

Easyjet.com = 5x weekly, MON, THU, FRI, SAT & SUN
Jet2.com = 4x weekly, MON, THU, SAT & SUN (Extra flights added Feb to Apr)
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Old 16th Dec 2012, 15:23
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Why fly LBA-GVA via LHR with British Airways when both Jet2 and easyjet now offer direct flights?

Easyjet.com = 5x weekly, MON, THU, FRI, SAT & SUN
Jet2.com = 4x weekly, MON, THU, SAT & SUN (Extra flights added Feb to Apr)
Whilst these flights are operating over the ski season then I will fly direct and I've booked the majority already - however once May comes I've no direct alternative
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 13:41
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BA LBA-LHR

I have just booked 2 Business Class seats to HKG in March and living in Ilkley would have liked to use LBA however BA price was 6679.30 for us both and Qatar from Manchester was 3267.90.......no brain'er really, far better airline, far far better food and service with a modern fleet and only 1 hour longer, how BA expect the LBA feeder route be be successful when their prices are twice the price of much better airlines is beyond me.

I hope I'm wrong but that route cannot sustain 4 daily flights and I can see them suspending it in 12 months.....as I said I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 17:09
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Good news Monarch Airlines have just announced there winter 2013/2014 flying programme from there new Leeds/Bradford base.

They will continue to base at least 1x Airbus A320 and operate flights to Munich and Grenoble as this winter and will also add winter sun routes to Arrecife, Faro, Cyprus-Larnaca and Tenerife South.

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Old 20th Dec 2012, 21:42
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Destination GVA

Why not go Newcastle - Geneva with Easyjet?
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Old 21st Dec 2012, 08:23
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"Why not go Newcastle - Geneva with Easyjet?"

It's several years since NCL-GVA was an all year service
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Old 21st Dec 2012, 10:09
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Why not just let the poor guy fy from where he wants. He has obviously investigated all the available options.
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Old 21st Dec 2012, 10:14
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LHR-LBA 1350 dep on weds 32 pax

LBA-LHR 1555 dep on weds 37 pax

For midweek, middle of the day, on a brand new route, it could be worse. Jst hoping morning/evening times are better, that the locals in Yorkshire 'use it or loose it', and that BA put a nightstopper in from the start of the summer skeds.

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Old 21st Dec 2012, 10:51
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Haven't had the chance to use the flights yet myself but a colleague did last week and reported similar figures.
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Old 22nd Dec 2012, 08:17
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Offint

IIRC you posted identically in June and you clearly have a point that the saving is considerable.

However surely LBA is better placed than MAN/GLA/EDI/NCL etc in this regard?

From those airports the option is simple Qatar/Etihad/EK etc with zero extra travelling or BA.

From LBA you did have to consider whether the saving was worth the trek over the Pennines. Of course at circa 3,000 you argue that it was but someone booking economy to HKG who has the option of BA from LBA or EK from MAN with perhaps 150 saving may well elect to use LBA.

Furthermore, BA fill 11 flights ex MAN and a great majority are connecting traffic ALL of whom have the option to use the Gulf carriers.

You must concede that your assertion that the route is stuffed based on your example hardly stands up?

I do agree fwiw that 4/day was too many and I personally think the 3 in S13 will work better even with the late first southbound.

I've seen the loads on every flight and plenty are doing ok with many in the 70's now. The 0700 north and 2100 south are a waste of time.

The telling time will be the first quarter of 2013. Starting on Dec 9th was ridiculous and at best a 'soft launch' to get the operation going. Word is out there now, the a/c are very smart lets see how many back it in the new year.

Oh and as someone else said can people please stop morning about the T1 aspect. The terminal transfer is not that arduous. Yes we'd all like T5 but DUS and BFS, 2 very established routes are also in T1, T5 isn't big enough and thesis a new venture, it was always going to start here. I have it on the best authority going that LBA , IF it demonstrates the sort of figs expected, will have a night stopper and be in T5 within 18 months. That will only happen if we back it.
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Old 22nd Dec 2012, 08:30
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aeulad's figures are absolutely accurate however here are the figs for the same flights on the next 2 days, Thursday & Friday 20/21

Thursday 61 & 37
Friday 71 & 37

Not seismic increases but better all the same.

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Old 29th Dec 2012, 18:00
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PIA Cancelled

Tonight PIA flight has been Cancelled!!
does any one know why???
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Old 30th Dec 2012, 18:11
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It was showing a big delay earlier on the arrivals board so I suspect they cancelled due to it being due to depart during the stupid night curfew that was put in place as a condition of the runway extension many years ago.

PIA have fallen foul of it many times and have promised to put a quiter aircraft on the route (B777) but still use the A310. LBA still hasn't seen a 777 so I doubt they ever will mainly due to runway length.

It is known that PIA tried to pull the route back to MAN last year but were persuaded to stay by a councilor who used to work in the travel industry. It is clear that the route is viable with the large Pakastani community in Bradford, but it doesn't make sense to PIA to operate from both LBA and MAN. They even stated that the trip across to MAN wouldn't be too much of an incovenience for the Yorkshire pax.

The only danger is that if they do pull the route back, the travel agent that started the flights with Shaheen may ask them back now they have a 767 and 2 A330s, and if they upped the flights again back to 3 weekly PIAs MAN operation would certainly suffer.
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Old 30th Dec 2012, 19:35
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it doesn't make sense to PIA to operate from both LBA and MAN
...so does it make sense for Jet2 / Ryanair / Monarch etc to operate from both ?
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