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Old 18th Nov 2012, 16:58
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BBC News - Manx2.com suspends Leeds Bradford and Oxford services
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 17:24
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Perhaps the current Fokker is to be used at Manston
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 17:52
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How is the LBA PK route doing? Doesnt seem to be any sign of the A310's going anywhere quickly. CAA stat figures seem pretty static at LBA with big drops on other UK routes
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
How is the LBA PK route doing? Doesnt seem to be any sign of the A310's going anywhere quickly. CAA stat figures seem pretty static at LBA with big drops on other UK routes

Apart from the usual quiet periods (Ramadan, Eid etc) loads have been looking good, usually around 140-150 don't know if the Triple 77 would be justified yet. The PIA station manager is adamant it's coming but this rumour has been floating around for a while now. Do hope to see it on stand 8 one day when I come into work!
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Old 8th Dec 2012, 14:01
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So do LBA have anything planned for tomorrow mornings return of British Airways after a 32 year absence with the long over due re-instated London Heathrow service?

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Old 8th Dec 2012, 16:13
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long awaited... and no doubt short lived ! cough cough Chinese longhaul slots.
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Old 8th Dec 2012, 23:21
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BA media launch

Will happen Monday....tomorrow is a 'soft' start-up.
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Good to hear that BA are back at LBA. Wish them well with the route.

I remember their final flights on the route back in the early 80s.....Viscounts and many of their flights in the final few days being accompanied by low level flypasts, especially those involving local based crews! Mind you in those days, starting and ending routes were quite notable occasions not like the 'here today gone tomorrow' routes of the modern era.

The route was first operated in the late 50s [?] early 60s by BKS Air Transport using DC3s. followed by Avro [Jet-Prop!] 748s. With the advent of the 'new runway' 15/33 in 1965, BA [in the form of BEA] first operated the route when a Heathrow based Viscount was used on a morning and evening rotation to supplement the BKS 748s. In around 65/66, after a period of training involving Channel Airways Viscounts, BKS started using their own Viscount 700s on the route followed by 800 series Viscounts.

Eventually BKS became Northeast Airlines and the integration with BEA began a series of name and livery changes ultimately leading to BA........ still using Viscount 800s, until BA left LBA and the reign of British Midland began.
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Old 11th Dec 2012, 10:12
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Yes do wish them luck..I well remember BKS Viscounts. Twas December 1967 and flew with them up to leeds from Heathrow. Still remember the `in flight catering` which was tea and help yourself from a tray of biscuits that were brought round!!....The two previous sectors on that flight from Capetown had been on a BOAC VC10 and an SAA Boeing 727...The Viscount seemed like Noah`s Ark to a nervous young lad back then..

Give almost anything to fly on one again though. Hope BA persevere with this route, the area deserves this kind of link and needs to be used not abused..
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Old 11th Dec 2012, 12:36
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Hear, hear Helen and Paully. Great that BA are finally back on the LHR run after almost thirty three years away. Nice of British Midland to keep the route warm while BA were away . I do hope it is a success. Would love to see an Airbus painted in Northeast colours before long. Highly unlikely I know but one can dream...

Helen49. Check your PMs please. Thankyou.

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Old 11th Dec 2012, 20:47
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I'd love the route to be a success, but I've received emails today for my flights in May neatly destroying my connections.

Service appears to be reduced to 3 flights daily (2 on Sat), with first flight down at 11:35!

Back to AMS I guess...
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Old 12th Dec 2012, 18:42
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Well instead of my usual 1h20 drive to MAN I tried the 40min drive to LBA to take Mondays LBA-LHR-GVA and won't be doing it again.

Im sure when I booked the flight (when bookings first opened) it was listed as a straight T5 transfer but now seems to be a T1 arrival and subsequent walk across T1/bus transfer to T5/queue for security in T5 rather than a quick hop off the plane and up the escalators in T5 that the MAN flight enjoys

Mondays load wasn't exactly healthy and seemed to comprise mainly of BA 'suits' who's flown up for the launch

I wish the service well and may well use it for appropriate long-haul connections but for European connections not serviced from T1 LHR it's a no from me
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Old 12th Dec 2012, 19:06
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Yes, I'm booked on LHR-LBA next week and it's a T1 departure. Not great for T5 connections.
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who is the LBA-LHR schedule useful for?

I am new on here but have been reading the forum for a year or more. Putting the last three responses together and thinking of my travel patterns, I am having difficulty seeing what traffic that schedule post May is going to attract. Possibly some Yorkshire-US? Possibly some European and near East destinations? Possibly some high value meetings at Heathrow? Where is the traffic coming from?
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"Not great for T5 connections"
Why not, albeit not same terminal but a straightforward internal coach transfer, better than no LBA route at all.
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A straightforward coach transfer, you are not serious I have not had a straightforward coach transfer at Heathrow yet.
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Good to see that Rt. Hon William Hague MPm finally opened the 11 million pound terminal investment at Leeds Bradford Airport this morning.

Leeds Bradford Airport 11 million pound terminal investment officially opens

Now lets hope this might spur Bridgepoint Capital to start investment on the long over-due Terminal Building Extension which was promised a few years ago, They already have planning permission to do so by Leeds City Council...

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Old 14th Dec 2012, 15:38
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Quite often transfer between T3 and T5 when visiting UK and have never had a problem with the bus transfer. Never waited more than few minutes, maybe i have been lucky!
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The issue for me is the transit time difference between arriving in LHR ex MAN and ex LBA - for ex MAN I arrive in the north end of T5 Main, off the plane, a quick boarding card check and I'm in the departure lounge in less than 5 mins

Arriving in T1 I have to walk literally the entire length of the terminal to central transfers, be bussed to the south end of T5 Main then have to go through the full security process again

LBIA will keep my business for the next few months with the direct flights to GVA but once the summer schedule returns I'm likely to find MAN more convenient again from an end-to-end journey point of view

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Old 15th Dec 2012, 19:42
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Quote: "who is the LBA-LHR schedule useful for?
I am new on here but have been reading the forum for a year or more. Putting the last three responses together and thinking of my travel patterns, I am having difficulty seeing what traffic that schedule post May is going to attract. Possibly some Yorkshire-US? Possibly some European and near East destinations? Possibly some high value meetings at Heathrow? Where is the traffic coming from?"

At a guess:
(1) those not travelling to/from the city centre at one or both ends;
(2) those making connections at Heathrow;
(3) those who may not wish to/be unable to drive;
(4) those who find it more convenient than travelling via Ringway;
(5) those who, in some cases, may find it it cheaper and/or more convenient than the train.



Quote: ""Not great for T5 connections"
Why not, albeit not same terminal but a straightforward internal coach transfer, better than no LBA route at all
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Indeed, so much better than no LBA route, so please use it! Many UK airports would benefit by having a route to/from LHR.


Quote: "The issue for me is the transit time difference between arriving in LHR ex MAN and ex LBA - for ex MAN I arrive in the north end of T5 Main, off the plane, a quick boarding card check and I'm in the departure lounge in less than 5 mins

Arriving in T1 I have to walk literally the entire length of the terminal to central transfers, be bussed to the south end of T5 Main then have to go through the full security process again
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If your baggage is checked through, it may be easier to do a landside transfer: take the train between LHR1 and LHR5 (and vice versa), it's free and four times/hour. By the way, the tube is not free. Even with baggage, it can be done relatively easily as there are lifts between the terminals and the platforms.

As for security, it makes no difference, airside or landside, it has to be gone through again.
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