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Old 6th Oct 2011, 21:53
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Yep its already been changed. As next summer see's the weekly Thomson Holidays flight to Palma been operated on a Tuesday by an Air Europa, Boeing 737-800 instead of a Thomson Airways own aircraft.

The weekly Friday, Corfu service remains operated by an East Midlands based Thomson Airways, Boeing 757-200 for now. But this is most likely going to change as they are said to be looking for a replacement airline operator.

In the long term I hear Thomson Airways want to fully pullout of LBA. I know they wont be missed, due to there constant messing around.

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Old 6th Oct 2011, 22:29
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Won't be in 2012 that LBA will lose the CFU ops by Thomson itself, that will definitely be operated by a 752 next year.
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Old 7th Oct 2011, 09:50
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In the long term I hear Thomson Airways want to fully pullout of LBA. I know they wont be missed, due to there constant messing around
Why is it that Thomson have such a strained relationship with LBIA!! but they seem to get on okay over at DSA and other airports!!! i have never flown with Thomson, so i wont miss them, but i will miss the one off's like the 767, which has been a pleasant surprise for the whole of the summer, i will miss seeing that coming in.....
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Old 7th Oct 2011, 17:44
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TOM / LBA Relationship

I would suggest that any strain in the relationship between LBA and Thomson is down to the fact that TOM, more than any other company, was the one whose enthusiastic endorsement of the DSA project made the whole venture possible. In the early days, TOM had very grand plans for the DSA operation and these would have competed with LBA interests. As we all know, real world economics have intervened since then, but LBA must still view TOM as a major backer of the airport's newest competitor.
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Old 10th Oct 2011, 06:12
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Terminal is dreadful

Just returned from a weeks holiday in Malta flying Ryanair,no complaints there,flights arrived early both ways.

Flew out sunday afternoon 2nd Oct,and I have to say I was embarrassed at the shocking state of the terminal.It was literally full to bursting point.You could hardly get through the duty paid shop to get to the lounge due to the huge queues for people to pay for their purchases.

On entering,the lounge resembled a cattle market,downstairs bar was like a rugby scrum,about 6 deep at bar.Went upstairs thinking that would be quieter,just as bad.Huge queue at bar,not a seat to be had anywhere.People sat and laid all over the floor,and staircases.

Seems like quite a lot of passengers on our flight had travelled over the pennines and from north east.Couldn't tell you the number of comments I heard from people vowing to never fly from Leeds again.

Anybody know what the latest is on the terminal redevelopment?.After this latest experience I would certainly think twice again about flying from my local airport in its current state.
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Old 10th Oct 2011, 11:11
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I will be flying Thursday afternoon and not looking forward to it at all.Since they got rid of half the seats to extend the bar areas its gotten beyond a joke.The passengers come second to generating profit. If and when the extensions are started then things should improve.At the moment the terminal is a disaster area at peak times,and there will be a lot more people looking to travel anywhere but from Leeds/Bradford.
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Old 10th Oct 2011, 11:33
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Terminal

The good news is... more and more people are using the airport, including myself and others from Scotland, unlike several other airports that are struggling to find passengers and the really good news is.... the terminal IS being enlarged to meet the increased numbers. It could be worse. I would rather have an airport that is bursting at the seams with more services being provided, and plans to make it better and bigger, than an airport that is steadily getting emptier!
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Old 10th Oct 2011, 11:44
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Just returned from a weeks holiday in Malta flying Ryanair
Whilst I am sure your assessment of the terminal conditions at LBA are accurate, I find it somewhat ironic that you travel with an airline (and no doubt paid peanuts for your ticket) that must contribute little or nothing in support of the airport, yet you complain about the lack of facilities.
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Old 10th Oct 2011, 14:14
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I arrived back at LBA from Prague on Thursday, parked remotely from the terminal and had a fair walk in the pouring rain to the arrivals entrance, soaked wet in the process. Then was met with a lengthy queue for immigration (which I know is not the airports fault) but that is what gives a bad impression.

Add to that £2.00 to be dropped off and the congestion inside the terminal it adds to disgruntled passengers and that must be a concern to the airport. The extension should have been done by now.
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Old 10th Oct 2011, 15:08
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TSR2,

Paid £125 each for the flight,peanuts for you maybe but not me.Unfortunately there is no option other than Ryanair for flying Malta to Leeds direct.

I like to fly from my local airport as it's convenient.However this latest trip may sway me to travel from somewhere else next time.

The terminal just cannot cope with the sheer volume of passengers using it now.I know the summer season is coming to an end,and it will not be so busy over winter period.Hopefully the airport owners will put in place some measures to try and ease the chaos in time for next years summer season,but I won't hold my breath.
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Old 10th Oct 2011, 15:22
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They should be an announcement from LBIA regarding the Terminal Building works that are going to take place over the winter sometime within the next week or so. Tuesday, October 18th has been mentioned as this will be the same day as the airport celebrates its 80th anniversary. Contractors are expected to be on site from November onwards.

The planned building extension has been put off for now but a re-furbishment of the existing facilities will be taking place which will incorporate a new larger security area, A new mezzanine floor will be added above the Check-in Hall A area to allow the free flowing of passengers. Also the airports landside facilities on the first floor will be no more, as all this area will become part of the new much larger departure lounge.

Some works have already commenced. The PIA ticket desk has been moved over into Check-In hall B while the airport offices on the first floor have been moved into the basement, gate 38 area.

All the planning files can been found here in PDF's:
https://publicaccess.leeds.gov.uk/on...=KCDK9AJB0FZ00

Ground floor plan = https://publicaccess.leeds.gov.uk/on...LAN-467015.pdf

First Floor Group plan = https://publicaccess.leeds.gov.uk/on...LAN-467016.pdf

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Old 10th Oct 2011, 19:28
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LBIA,

Thanks for that info,I suppose something is better than nothing.

Good to hear that the airport are obviously aware that things cannot continue as they are.

It really was an eye opener to hear so many people say they would never use LBA again because of the chaos in the departure lounge.

Hopefully next summer we will see the difference.
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Old 10th Oct 2011, 19:43
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Last week I took an elderly relative back to Edinburgh airport for her flight back to Southampton. She lives near Bournemouth and has flown Edinburgh Bournemouth before with Ryanair who of course do not fly this route anymore. Now does she complain about having to travel to Southampton, no, she complains she doesn't like Edinburgh airport because of the long walk down the new east pier, Flybe gate!
You cannot please everyone!! Of course she will still use Edinburgh just as many more will continue to use Leeds I am sure. Nevertheless the LBA management must feel that the expansion cannot come too soon.
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Old 11th Oct 2011, 08:46
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Terminal is Dreadful

You are spot on lbalad. It has been getting worse and worse in recent times due to the "improvements" Bridgepoint have been making. I used to look forward to travelling through LBA as it was quite a pleasant experience. Not any more though. It is a bad as MAN T1 first thing in the morning.

I hope, as LBIA points out, that the work starting next month will solve some of the chronic overcrowding problems currently we have to endure. It is just a shame that the ever smiling Border Control lot can't be given a makeover too as we would then have an airport passengers would enjoy using again!
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Old 11th Oct 2011, 10:41
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It is a bad as MAN T1 first thing in the morning.
Then it's quite acceptable then.
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Old 11th Oct 2011, 12:37
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Everybody knew the the airport was expanding but the joint councils that owned Leeds/Bradford did not have the money to spend too accommodate the expansion.Unfortunately it was sold to Bridgeport who in my opinion were the wrong buyers of the airport.They have spent money on the commercial side of the airport to expand their income ie extend the bar area and the shops.This is not the problem,they are there to make a profit and recoup some of the cost of purchasing the airport.They also want to maximize the revenues ready for any future sell off.The downside of this strategy and we are seeing the result of that now in the over crowding at peak times,is it has taken to long from the planning stage to the actual implementation of the terminal extension.Once the terminal extension is completed the potential loss of passengers will be reversed. The stats show passenger numbers growing each month so we can't be losing too many. I moan sometimes about the departure lounges but I wouldn't want to fly from any other airport if the flights are available.I suspect most people think the same and at the end of the day the time spent in the terminal isn't that long.
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Old 11th Oct 2011, 18:20
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Originally Posted by lbia
The PIA ticket desk has been moved over into Check-In hall B while the airport offices on the first floor have been moved into the basement, gate 38 area.
No it hasn't, its still in hall A next to the Servisair ticket desk.
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Old 11th Oct 2011, 20:50
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Are right I had heard that the PIA ticket desk was to be moving shortly, Seen that it would make more sense for them to be over in Hall-B now that additional check-in desks have just been fitted with systems suitable for PIA flights.

I understand that the new system in Hall-B allows PIA to use up to 8 check-in desks at a time and so enables them check-in more passengers when and if ever they decide to replace the Airbus A310's with Boeing 777-200's.

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Old 11th Oct 2011, 21:05
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I don't imagine them moving it again considering it's all been branded where it is, plus they coordinate primarily with the business desk at 7.

At present there are only four codeco systems in hall B that double up with Jet2's.
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Old 20th Oct 2011, 18:26
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The departure lounge is awful now, no seats, we had to sit on the floor as not one seat was available. This is the norm for us as we always fly in school holidays 3x per year and the airport is packed out. Not a pleasant experience when we take dad who is in his 70's and having to sit on the floor, I moan to myself every time I fly, but I prefer to fly from my local airport that is only 5 mins away, rather than a long trek over to Man. Come on LBA, give passengers more seats in the departure lounge and less shops that never have any customers in like the Croc's shop upstairs!
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