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[Runway 32/14]

The A330 is more than capable of operating from LBA'S runway even when fully loaded...the 747-200, tri stars and MD11's have done this with ease in the past (euro 96) is a good example...

I know Thomson are using a 767-300ER for their flights direct to Bridgetown from Leeds dates are :

FRI, 14/01/11 = To Bridgetown
SAT, 29/01/11 = From Bridgetown
SAT, 19/02/11 = To Bridgetown
SUN, 06/03/11 = From Bridgetown

[Smoke_On]

Runway 32/14,

Do you know the times of the 767 flights?


Thanks.

[HOODED]

Most long haul ac are limited from LBAs runway, some ac more so than others. The A310 does well with a decent load to ISB and yet the 752s struggle to New York when fully loaded. Its all down the the conditions on the day, runway 14 gives a much better TODA so if the wind favours 14 then thats a bonus as is a cool temperature obviously. Next Gen long haul eg 787 and A350 should be much better, the 787 in particular will be almost unrestricted from LBA except in exceptional weather conditions rather than the other way round.

[Runway 32/14]

Times yet to be arranged.....

[AP1995]

will PIA ever operate the 777-200 from LBA? if they remove the A310's will they upgrade the service?

[Runway 32/14]

The information i have received about the 777 is that it is still ongoing!!
the runway and taxi ways ect have already been upgraded for the arrival of the 777, i have asked lba if and when the 777 will commence operations from leeds, but i am still waiting for a reply, the last rumour about PIA commencing its 777 service was summer of this year, when PIA and LBA said that it would start ops in October!!!! well it is now January 2011 and still no sign of this new movement....maybe it will never happen

PIA and LBA agreed to reduce the 3x a week service because of the new 777 arrangement, that is why it is a 2x weekly service now...didnt help with PIA aircraft been continuously late in and out of leeds

[Mike Tee]

Very interesting thread this. The comments by HOODED regarding the better TODA (Take Off Distance Available) for Runway 14 over 32 has rekindled a subject which has puzzled me for years, so perhaps someone can enlighten me. What is the difference (in laymans terms please) between TODA and TORA (Take Off Run Available). I note that there is a considerable difference between the TODA for Runway 32 at 7477 ft and Runway 14 at 10,397 ft. Thanks.

[Shunter]

Have a look at CAP168 for a diagram. It's the surrounding terrain which dictates the length of TODA. Land rises on the 32 climb-out, not so on 14. TODA = TORA + ClearWay. ClearWay = distance between end of TORA and first obstacle (in this case, the Chevin).

Say you have an engine failure after V1 and you need clear space ahead due to significantly decreased climb performance, that's where increased TODA comes in.

[Mike Tee]

Thanks for that Shunter, it's a bit clearer now !!. What is CAP 168 and the Chevin ?. Thanks again.

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Mike

Thanks for that Shunter, it's a bit clearer now !!. What is CAP 168 and the Chevin ?

Chevin - ridge (hill) just to the north west of LBIA.

CAP168 - CAA document detailing licensing of aerodromes (gives details of all measurements etc etc)

TORA vs TODA in really simple terms - TORA is the distance available to get airborne in (amount of tarmac/surface of 1 type or another). TODA is TORA + clearway. Clearway is the distance beyond the end of the runway without obstacles that would get in the way of a climb-out.

[AP1995]

does anyone know of LBA'S passeneger stats for 2010?

[Runway 32/14]

(December figures have not yet been released)

But it looks good for LBA, the current amount of pax coming through the airport upto November 2010 stands at 2,706,836 thats if the figures i have seen are correct

[AP1995]

where did you find the infomation on the statistics?

[Runway 32/14]

Follow the link to the caa web site, then scroll down to the very bottom of the page and click on the link in the document directory
2010-11
Hope that helps

http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=80&pagetype=88&pageid=11&sglid=11

[AP1995]

thank youu
any new routes at LBA for summer & winter 2011 or 2012?

[Runway 32/14]

Bit early for 2012 routes, but check out this link, ITS AN INTERACTIVE MAP it gives you all the destinations from LBA

http://www.airportdirecttravel.co.uk/leedsbradford/map

[Jamie2k9]

Ryanair are dropping Carcasonne from Leeds on March 23.

[LBIA]

It’s not looking 2 bad for LBA this summer 2011

Yes Ryanair have dropped the Carcassonne route, but they will also continue to operate its routes to Gdansk, Fuerteventura, and Dusseldorf-Weeze that commenced this winter season and of which didn’t run last summer. They have also added a route Arrecife for this summer 2011.

Jet2 is adding a route to Funchal-Madeira which commences next month and will also start a once weekly service to Bodrum from May.
Some flights that were operated by B737-300's last summer have be upgraded to the B757-200's and LBA will see more w-legs of non based aircraft from both its Edinburgh and Belfast bases.

Holidays4u have added LBA to there network for summer 2011. They will be using Onur Air on once weekly flights to both Bodrum and Dalaman in Turkey.

Thomas Cook is launching a new weekly charter flight to Kos in Greece from May. But know one knows whats operating based programme. The local based Thomas Cook cabin crews are not coming back this summer by all accounts. This has not been denied or confirmed by anyone yet.
If Thomas Cook dont return with the single based Airbus A320 aircraft this summer it has been mentioned that flights might be operated by a third party airline.
This is where the latest rumours have come about suggesting that Astraeus maybe about to return LBA this summer operating the based programme on behalf of Thomas Cook Holidays, Just like they use to do in the past.

Omega Holidays have just announced that they will operate a series of 3x charters to Naples using British Airways Cityflyer, Embrear 190's.

KLM are introducing a 4x daily weekday service to there Amsterdam service using the City Hopper, Fokker 70's.

They will be others that I’ve forgotten to list as well. We are not doing to bad in my book anyway.

[righthandrule]

Thomas Cook are defiantly operating this coming summer with the based Airbus. Crew start recurrent training in February for when the season starts at half term.

[Runway 32/14]

Dont Thomas Cook code share with Jet2 on some of the rutes!!!