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Old 8th Jan 2011, 10:26
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will easyjet be intrested in adding new routes if the geneva route is doing well? & will thomson add any more routes? are the tenerife and sharm el sheikh doing well?
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Old 8th Jan 2011, 10:56
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Dont Thomas Cook code share with Jet2 on some of the rutes!!!
No no code sharing of any kind goes on with TCX. They do however on some routes have an allocation on Jet2 flights for the tour operator just like they do with Thomson, Monarch etc and vice versa.
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Old 8th Jan 2011, 13:02
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I am surprised that Ryanair have dropped Carcasonne, considering it was the only French route that they kept going through the winter, and it appeared to do better than some of the other French routes last summer that they have kept going for this summer?
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Old 8th Jan 2011, 14:32
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With the Leeds based aircraft operating Gdansk and Fuerteventura next summer it would be hard to operarte Carcasonne as well.
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Old 8th Jan 2011, 22:56
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I know, but I what i'm saying is I would have expected NTE or MPL to go before CCF... oh well!
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Old 8th Jan 2011, 23:23
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The route that should be going is Knock. Take a look at the Knock Forum and see the passenger numbers I posted for it.
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Old 8th Jan 2011, 23:45
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I know... they are pretty abysmal!
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Old 8th Jan 2011, 23:56
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The only reason to keep the route is because they have very low landing charges at Knock.
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 10:59
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Leeds

When does the KLM go to four daily?
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 12:21
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Hi EuroChallenger The flights start March 2011. ILS32
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 20:57
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I wonder if PIA’s will re-introduced its 3rd weekly A310 service from March on its Islamabad service or if we see the long awaited arrival of the airline's B777's. PIA has said that its a profitable route and that it could expand its UK operations this summer after its tie up with Turkish Airlines.

Dose anyone know if any work is needed to be done on the Apron, Taxi-ways or Runway at LBA. Or if any works have already taken place for LBA to be able to accommodate B777 operations?
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 21:15
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This may be of interest to you:: In regards to the PIA 777

http://democracy.leeds.gov.uk/Publis...gReport_v1.pdf

ITS WORTH READING AND SHOULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 22:34
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Interesting link, thanks for that, it seems the reduction from 3 to 2 weekly has happened but no 777 upgrade yet and no firm comitment to it either. I have to say I am sceptical off a 2250m runway unless they intend to use -200ER/LR only which might work.
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 22:36
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An interesting report on surface access, which the council will be discussing tomorrow. The report includes data on where passengers originate

http://democracy.leeds.gov.uk/mgConv....aspx?ID=51868

The airport MD will also be presenting to the council. Soundbites from the powerpoint they will be using, particularly the last one, are I'm sure designed to win favour with the local councillors....

• Making or region more accessible and attractive to inward investment.
• Creating significant regional employment.
• Increased international profile for the city and the wider region.
• Enhancing Yorkshire's inbound tourism potential working with Welcome to Yorkshire.
• Manchester becomes the 'second best option' for our customers and catchment.

Powerpoint also suggests 280 construction jobs to be created on site in 2011/2012 from terminal development

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Old 11th Jan 2011, 06:46
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Actually, if you read the quoted article more closely, you will see that the B777 was never promised for LBA:

the possibility of securing the B777
Page 3, towards the bottom

Also, page 4 says advanced discussions with PIA were taking place to facilitate the introduction of the B777, and that no definitive date of the introduction was given

To me it seems like PIA have said they will try and get the B777 into LBA, but didnt go as far to set it in stone.
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 09:04
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I read elsewhere that any notion of PIA putting a 777 into LBA has been canned and that the route will be dropped as and when the A310s are withdrawn from European service.

When their "prime" routes are being chopped, I honestly can't see a twice weekly service to a regional airport lasting, and with consolidation now becoming PIA's primary aim, the service would appear an obvious candidate for consolidation to MAN.
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 11:56
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Unless they replace the A310s with some leased 788s. Alternatively they could consolidate their MAN flights at LBA given the huge Pakastani population in Bradford. They now know PIA operate from LBA and they no longer have to travel to MAN unless they must fly on a day other than Sat/Wed.
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 15:51
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Alternatively they could consolidate their MAN flights at LBA given the huge Pakastani population in Bradford. They now know PIA operate from LBA and they no longer have to travel to MAN unless they must fly on a day other than Sat/Wed
Can LBA handle the B773? I know they did some work to accomodate a B772?

Anyway, why would they move up to 2-3 flights a day to LBA, when they can just move 2 weekly flights to MAN?
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 21:50
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PIA at Leeds

PIA has operated for many years as a government owned public service. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion but it probably explains why they operate into LBA as well as MAN. This cannot be a cost efficient way to serve what is essentially a single market, but was done no doubt due to lobbying by the ex-pat communities in Yorkshire. If PIA are now looking at routes on a more commercial basis, bearing in mind the withdrawal of the A310s at some stage I think consolidation of the LBA services to MAN is inevitable. That's assuming MAN continues, of course. It would be fairly drastic if it didn't.

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Old 11th Jan 2011, 22:08
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More likely because the new team at Leeds are doing their utmost to prove it isn't a single market and they can serve demand that originates in the LBA hinterland from LBA - the whole basis of their pitch to the local council this morning. Their entire business plan is based on this premise so things like PIA are important symbolically to them as much as financially and no doubt PIA were offered a very attractive deal on handling fees. Unless the crewing arrangements at LBA are particularly expensive vs MAN, it's hard to imagine why the cost base would be massively different

I agree though, withdrawal of the A310s will force the decision. Even if it goes, the 3 years of operation is probably enough to prove the point the airport want to make about passengers in their own catchment choosing LBA over MAN if the choice is there.

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