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Old 20th Feb 2011, 12:40
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Nope. We prefer non biased independent quotes in here (as previosuly provided). Not a biased one produced by a Leeds marketing company locally. Come on ! Keep up the google searches and all will be revealed.... England maybe, UK, no.
And you better get on to the Financial Times , yes the Financial Times and tell them their information is wrong.
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Old 20th Feb 2011, 13:02
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I don't think it really matters whether Leeds is the biggest financial centre outside London or not as that is not the main driving force behind LBA expansion. Elements of it could definitely help any negotiation, but it is not the key to it. In fact, the Leeds City Region development council always quotes its air and rail links with London as being central to further growth.

With regards to the North West, the airport and its worldwide links most definitely aid the area, as well as other, more spurious reasons such as Manchester United FC, city wide light rail, regeneration of the city centre following IRA bombing etc. But I can't see such growth being possible without a reasonable means of getting into and out of the place e.g. Manchester Airport. Let's remember the rail link to the capital was poor until recently, certainly inferior to that of Leeds.

LBA can't expand like that - the apron is already full overnight in summer - but if it does the right things (improving access being my main point) there is no reason that it can't successfully house a small long haul operation, whether Leeds is the biggest financial centre outside London or not.
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Old 27th Feb 2011, 19:42
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Just noticed on the KLM website that the KLM LBA - AMS is four daily from late march.
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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 17:51
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Thumbs down Leeds 5

Never mind the transport links, the departure lounge is now worse than it has ever been. I flew out of Leeds going to Fuerteventura on the 19th February when it was snowing. There is total lack of seating for passengers, people were sat on the floor everywhere in the departure lounge as there was not enough seating. When Jet2 announced imminant delays due to the weather, hoards of people went to the VIP lounge and paid to go in. Within minutes of this happening, Jet2 pax were told that their flight was going to board, then wasting their money to pay to go in there!

Seems to me that there are too many shops and cafes now in the departure lounge, causing you to buy drinks and snacks in order to sit down. People had bought drinks and sat at a table, but they did not move once they had finished, causing people buying drinks and snacks having to sit on the floor with them.

Get it sorted Leeds, I don't want to pay airport taxes to have to sit on the floor when I am going away on holiday.
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Old 11th Mar 2011, 14:43
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Dont know if anyone else on here has noticed, But you can't book a flights anymore with flybe.com from Leeds to London Gatwick after March 31st.

Dose anyone know if the route has been dropped or whats happening?

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Old 11th Mar 2011, 15:13
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Just spoke to a colleague who uses the Gatwick service regularly, he has a booking for May 5th and tried to make a booking while I was talking to him on the phone and it was letting him do it. He did say there are often glitches like that when he books so he just re trys.
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Old 13th Mar 2011, 16:36
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Have read elsewhere that the loss of Gatwick from 31st March is confirmed.

FlyBe website states differently showing flights timetable LGW-LBA until January 2012. Perhaps a change in frequency or timings? Showing 3 daily Mon-Fri, 1 Sat and 2 Sun.

James

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Old 13th Mar 2011, 17:13
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FlyBe website states differently showing flights timetable LGW-LBA until January 2012. Perhaps a change in frequency or timings? Showing 3 daily Mon-Fri, 1 Sat and 2 Sun.
Whilst the timetable still shows January, the booking engine physically won't let you book past 31st March.

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Old 14th Mar 2011, 15:16
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Hi

LBA have officially announced on its facebook page that flybe are dropping the Leeds/Bradford to London Gatwick route from March 31st 2011.

The Flybe LGW route will be available until 31st March 2011. Leeds Bradford is looking to replace the London service as soon as possible.
Please contact Flybe on: 01392 268500 for further details.
So i wonder which airlines they may possibly target for a replacement service and to which London airport?
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 16:48
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I have to say, this is a very surprising and concerning turnaround from FlyBe. Not so long since they were increasing frequencies. Dare I say? A nail in the coffin? Certainly a hammerblow. Along with reductions in the Exeter/Aberdeen frequencies. So much for FlyBe expansion at LBA.

With regards to the previous question, exactly which airlines COULD take on the route? If FlyBe can't make it work, who can? Is there an Easyjet announcement imminent? I wouldn't have thought they would stick 737's/A319's on a LBA - LGW rotation.

Jersey European/FlyBe were unable to make London City work, albeit with LHR still on the books. Is there an airline that could make that work now? LHR is apparently out for the foreseeable future though there was talk from John Parkin of reconnecting Heathrow. There is absolutely zero point in Luton or Stansted. Bad times methinks.
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 16:52
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I would be surprised if any airline is found as flybe was the most likely to make a London route work as it has the right size of aircraft and a high profile as a domestic airline. Jet2 and Eastern have tried and given up routes from Newcastle to London and the competition from the train is even greater from Leeds. BMI is unlikely to return either.
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 17:17
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BA CityFlyer out of London City? 2 new aircraft arrivals expected in the next couple of months? Could an E170 work on that route? Complete speculation of course.....

Just to add to the points about Jet2, Eastern and BMIr, Jet2 are clearly not interested currently in city destinations and are flying headlong into the charter sector; BMIr are in a reasonable enough decline and have pulled plenty of routes and frequencies from LBA recently to suggest that a return with a London rotation is out of the question even though it is potentially do-able given the correct model; Eastern are concentrating expansion elsewhere and I do not believe LBA to be very high on their list of priorities.

I think if it is going to come from anywhere, it will be something altogether different rather than the "been there done that" airlines.
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 18:39
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There wont be any London replacements by Oct 11 at the earliest... Jet2 wont even think about it surely, Eastern don't like LCY, tried it with NCL in the past and it didn't work, and bmi's interest clearly isnt in domestic services at the moment...

Theres trains every 15 minutes... its easier than having to find your way to LBA and is probably cheaper!
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 20:26
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Spot on OliWW

Add in Leeds cancellations/diversions due weather, snow ,wind, its far easier to catch the rattler to London.

Leeds will never see a LHR connection until/when R3 is built, this past winter has shredded the roads around the Airport and LCC seems in no hurry to fill them in
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 21:12
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the only airline i can think of to do a london route is ryanair to stansted
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 22:13
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Insufficient interline traffic to justify Gatwick or Heathrow (where the airport operators want big aeroplanes, not 70 odd seaters). London City too many restrictions and expensive; it's been tried already; Stansted and Luton non-runners for similar reasons, city centre to city centre traffic...East Coast wins hands down...you can be in Kings Cross before you would have boarded at LBA....well just about!.....and better than been dropped off 16 miles out of town!

There has been a slow but sure demise of domestic air services in the UK over the past ten years (or more) and it aint finished yet! Sad but true!
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Old 15th Mar 2011, 04:30
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the only airline i can think of to do a london route is ryanair to stansted

Been done before A, though not for 20 some years. It was basically a position flight to get the aircraft to STN and back. Never more than single figures on it, it was canned.

LBA - LGW has been done by several operators, none of them stayed on it for long.
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 17:00
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Hi

Been told today that Thomson Airways are upgrading the weekly Thursday PMI-LBA-PMI operation to a Boeing 767-300 this summer 2011 season.

Can anyone confirm if the above news is true?
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 23:03
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That is correct. On a W out of MAN. I think it was swapped from the MAN-SSH route following the recent problems in Egypt.
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Change to the 763 was made about three months ago, well before current issues in Egypt, but news of it has only just made its way here.
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