Bmibaby

[INKJET]

22kg luggage allowance

It seems that 22kg allowance is now standard on bmibaby flights per their FAQ baggage section, the website hasn't caught up and the 22kg special offer says until the end of Jan. That's the benefit of airline competion I guess and in this case we have Jet2 to thank, I can't see Ryanair following suit tho?

Both MUC & CGN are also still in the drop down date menu until the end of he Summer, not sure if it will allow you to book them though?

[look you]

Just a tiny bit of trivia, if you pardon the pun. Baby can't re-equip with anything other than 737 without negotiating an agreement with the bmi mainline pilots to get around their scope clause.

[aidoair]

It seems that 22kg allowance is now standard on bmibaby flights per their FAQ baggage section, the website hasn't caught up and the 22kg special offer says until the end of Jan. That's the benefit of airline competion I guess and in this case we have Jet2 to thank, I can't see Ryanair following suit tho?

Both MUC & CGN are also still in the drop down date menu until the end of he Summer, not sure if it will allow you to book them though?

Regarding the baggage it still states for all new bookings made untill the end of January. However as you have seen, it will be good to see at the end of January whether or not they go back to their 18kg standard allowance or the 'book before end of Jan' is just marketing to help hurry bookings.

As for CGN & MUC, unfortunately despite them being in the timetables throughout the summer they do end in March and May respectively.

[jpthomas72]

Both MUC & CGN are also still in the drop down date menu until the end of he Summer, not sure if it will allow you to book them though?

Come-on, this is easy to check, use the 31-day view and try to book e.g. May or September. Routes are canceled as mentioned here. This is such a farce I now believe WW should better close the whole shop sooner rather than later. They are so unpredictable, not just those routes, but also this announced and never-flown BHX-CGN, hit-and-miss on BHX-PRG, constant schedule changes on BHX-GVA, EMA-GVA etc etc. Let's see when LH's patience runs out. 4U have been very half-hearted about integrating with WW, e.g. they haven't offered connections via CGN, which is a big 4U hub, and they knew why. I find it very hard to think of a worse airline than WW, probably in all of the EU (please give me a name if you know one...), surely by far the worst in the LH family. Apologies for the rant...

[aidoair]

Come-on, this is easy to check, use the 31-day view and try to book e.g. May or September. Routes are canceled as mentioned here. This is such a farce I now believe WW should better close the whole shop sooner rather than later. They are so unpredictable, not just those routes, but also this announced and never-flown BHX-CGN, hit-and-miss on BHX-PRG, constant schedule changes on BHX-GVA, EMA-GVA etc etc. Let's see when LH's patience runs out. 4U have been very half-hearted about integrating with WW, e.g. they haven't offered connections via CGN, which is a big 4U hub, and they knew why. I find it very hard to think of a worse airline than WW, probably in all of the EU (please give me a name if you know one...), surely by far the worst in the LH family. Apologies for the rant...

Clearly they have annoyed you about something but it's a good job thousands others don't agree. Despite the annoying chopping and dropping of routes and frequencys, they do actually now have a vision, much clearer than say 2-3 years ago. Obviously this is much to do with the help of LH and the whole restructuring of the bmi group. If they had more aircraft I feel there wouldn't be as much of this chopping of routes. They do have to focus on routes that make them money quickly with the small fleet they have unfortunately rather than giving routes such as MUC a longer chance and letting them grow.

[INKJET]

The routes menu shows CGN&MUC as on sale through out the Summer in the drop down dates. My point here is that any prospective punter who doesn't spend his or her life on Pprune and looking at the routes at the planning stage of a trip would be forgiven for the belief that the flights are planned to operate on these dates which run through to October, they will be rather p****d off then to discover they can't book the flights, other seasonal routes such as MAH & IBZ have start and finsh dates

Aidoair

The website FAQ is very clear that all bookings after the 5th of Jan get 22kg standard, it's only the special offer 1 2 3 tab on the front page that says it ends on the 31st so which is it? It's not difficult is it?

[aidoair]

It's not difficult is it?

Regardless what it says in the FAQs, in the flight booking terms and conditions it states very clearly ''Passengers who purchase baggage will receive 22kg standard baggage allowance.This applies to new bookings only and is valid for bookings made until 31st January 2011''.

What I was trying to say is that it could be a bit of PR spin to increase bookings with baggage in January. (usually summer holidays)

They may then announce it will be their standard baggage allowance for all future bookings. I guess we will have to wait and see, only 3 days left untill the end of the offer anyway. If this does however become the standard allowance then it will be a good thing as they are the most expensive airline to check-in bags with, even compared to Ryanair!

[Mr A Tis]

Baggage

Whether its 18kg, 20kg or 22kg it's a rip off.
£13.99 each way for a checked bag PLUS an unavoidable £7 each way fee to check the bag in. That fee is unavoidable if you have a bag.
Why can't they be honest and say bags are £20.99 each way. Still a rip off, but more honest & transparent. Bad Baby

[AP1995]

BMI BABY have WFU one of the 737-500 but they are getting one of thomson 737-300

[aidoair]

Both G-THOL & G-THOP are leaving the TOM fleet by this summer. One is onwards to LS so guess it could be either.

Regards to the 735 leaving bmibaby. I always assumed these 3 aircraft were actually owned by the group rather than leased? I guess not or was it soon due a major check?

[SR71]

Just a tiny bit of trivia, if you pardon the pun. Baby can't re-equip with anything other than 737 without negotiating an agreement with the bmi mainline pilots to get around their scope clause.

If a small section of people in the bmi section of the Group that has lost £XXX million in the last how many years think that they can hold Lufthansa's better intentions for their business hostage, by virtue of a scope clause, I think they're deluded...especially when they're rocking up on baby's doorstep with their new 320's!

What a stroke of luck there isn't a clause prohibiting such a move which goes to ensure the ongoing viability of that part of the operation?



The future of the bmi Group is not going to be best served by each employee group harking back to defunct agreements that are long past their sell-by date.

[OliWW]

I believe it to be ex GoFly, EasyJet and Thomson G-THOL coming to bmibaby, while G-THOP goes to Jet2...

G-BVKD which is the 735 which is leaving is owned and leased by Guggenheim Aviation Investment Fund

G-BVKB and G-BVZE are owned and leased by AWAS, should be in the fleet for at least the next 12 months

[aidoair]

I believe it to be ex GoFly, EasyJet and Thomson G-THOL coming to bmibaby, while G-THOP goes to Jet2...

G-BVKD which is the 735 which is leaving is owned and leased by Guggenheim Aviation Investment Fund

G-BVKB and G-BVZE are owned and leased by AWAS, should be in the fleet for at least the next 12 months

Cheers, G-THOL has been a good little bird at TOM at least for the past couple of summer seasons. Hope she's as good for baby!

[G-VCED]

G-THOL, youngest aircraft baby will have, by around a year.

G-OGBD and G-TOYD have still got fabric interiors I get the feeling these will be changed soon as I'm under the impression their future in the fleet is secure for now?

[OliWW]

I'd have expected a number of the fleet to have been painted in the new livery by now, the new 733 will obviously be when its delivered, but YH and YG were both surpose to be painted before xmas...

[sjm]

SR71,

Couldn't have put it better myself, what world are these people living in? Its a whole new game these days!


Cheese and beer my good man, cheese and beer!

lookyou, would that be the same scope clause that wont allow the 757's in?

[Little Blue]

Well said, bouncy !!

[INKJET]

Clearer pricing

I see baby have at last gone to tax & airport charges inclusive pricing at the first point you start to make a booking, there is still the check in fee of £14:00 for all hold luggage and cc fee's but at least it's a step in the right direction and brings it into line with bmi group policy.

22kg luggage seems to be standard now for all bookings plus you can have 5 bags and pool your allowance with others travelling with you, for it was this that seemed to have resulted in 100 pax being off loaded in ACE with FR

The break down of airport fee's makes interesting reading

[Jamie2k9]

for it was this that seemed to have resulted in 100 pax being off loaded in ACE with FR

Some of the hard baggage the group wouldn't fit into the racks provided at the gate and the group payed for the extra baggage but while on the aircraft they became disruptive to crew.

[G-VCED]

G-TOYK

G-TOYK has come back from a service with the livery that is applied to G-BVKB, expect this time the 'tiny' is wearing swimwear and a snorkel with the tagline "jump in, baby".