BA Management (Split From T5 Thread)
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Are BA press office suddenly becomming shy? Company policy to maintain anonymity? That'd be why so many of them are on here!
Have you ever heard such immature nonsense in all your time at BA?
"We want to get bags quicker to customers and if it's quicker to send them to Milan or by Fed Ex we will use it," a British Airways spokeswoman said on condition of anonymity in keeping with company policy.
Have you ever heard such immature nonsense in all your time at BA?
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BAengineering, well please resign your membership status and stop posting because it IS happening.
no-one is best pleased with our performance and indeed I feel mightily ashamed whenever I get a question about T5. You've done more than enough on this forum by your incessant postings (as shown by others).
However don't blame the loaders either way, they have had to do with major cost cutting in the manpower department and I'm sure the way our 'managers' have communicated it hasn't really empowered them. Knowing that they talk to us like children.
Hopefully there will be a big mop up in 'middle management' who have to communicate to up above that their departments were ready for the big move.
It's a great new home for us though and I'm sure it can work properly.
no-one is best pleased with our performance and indeed I feel mightily ashamed whenever I get a question about T5. You've done more than enough on this forum by your incessant postings (as shown by others).
However don't blame the loaders either way, they have had to do with major cost cutting in the manpower department and I'm sure the way our 'managers' have communicated it hasn't really empowered them. Knowing that they talk to us like children.
Hopefully there will be a big mop up in 'middle management' who have to communicate to up above that their departments were ready for the big move.
It's a great new home for us though and I'm sure it can work properly.
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Re the BA spokesman comment stuff.. Many firms don't as a matter of rule have their spokespersons quoted by name "just a BA spokesman, " "BT spokesman etc" but the IHT and some U.S. papers have a style that they must quote a name OR say why they don't.
ditto for government.
I have no insight into BA's press team, but I guess it is that.
ditto for government.
I have no insight into BA's press team, but I guess it is that.
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Please don;t blame the loaders
Shaka Zulu - what on earth are you saying? confirming the loaders are sabotaging the Terminal 5 operation (i'd like to know your source/proof as I've not seen it) yet state 'don't blame them'.
Now that really is a VASTLY ridiculous proposition to make.
If they are sabotaging the operation then it needs to be properly exposed and the persons responsible brought to task. As I have repeatedly stated these allegations and supporting evidence (which you must have) needs to brought immediately to the attention of senior management. I still don;t believe its true and stand by my promise to resign my membership on demonstration of your allegations. I am still waiting.
As for incessant posting, there are a number of PPrune members who enjoy my musings. Additionally with a thread that is running at nearly 1000 posts of which only some 70 are mine, the VAST MAJORITY are other peoples postings. Indeed many of my postings are in direct reply to BA managers who wish to spin their PR on this thread.
Now that really is a VASTLY ridiculous proposition to make.
If they are sabotaging the operation then it needs to be properly exposed and the persons responsible brought to task. As I have repeatedly stated these allegations and supporting evidence (which you must have) needs to brought immediately to the attention of senior management. I still don;t believe its true and stand by my promise to resign my membership on demonstration of your allegations. I am still waiting.
As for incessant posting, there are a number of PPrune members who enjoy my musings. Additionally with a thread that is running at nearly 1000 posts of which only some 70 are mine, the VAST MAJORITY are other peoples postings. Indeed many of my postings are in direct reply to BA managers who wish to spin their PR on this thread.
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Throughout, the Company (BA) has behaved like a 19th century mill owner.
Now that is taken directly from the respected BALPA website on the openskies issue. Personally I think it's a misquote as 19th century Mill owners wouldn't have cocked it up so bad!
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My word Racasan ol bean, I'm mighty chuffed you noticed, 100 posts, it's gone so quickly, almost effortlessly. I still stand by my statement that the VAST MAJORITY of posts have been made by BA managers!
Still i have made 10% of the postings, so by BA standards, when 90% of flights are classed as being the VAST MAJORITY of the operation. Though when you think that the longhaul Op hasn;t moved over from T4 the portion of flights cancelled just from T5 is shocking.
Oh and you definately must be an x engineer with a name like Racasan, beautiful stuff, covered in it many times from my classic days!!
Still i have made 10% of the postings, so by BA standards, when 90% of flights are classed as being the VAST MAJORITY of the operation. Though when you think that the longhaul Op hasn;t moved over from T4 the portion of flights cancelled just from T5 is shocking.
Oh and you definately must be an x engineer with a name like Racasan, beautiful stuff, covered in it many times from my classic days!!
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Perhaps you should correct your own spelling before criticising others' efforts.
Ah but if your not a schoolkid, why do you spell and write like one? It's either that or you are an MBA holding superwhizz BA manager. Or maybe your Willie himself, West Coast of Ireland, schoolkid refering to his pint sized stature?
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Spellin problims
Sorry SallyAnne,
I was being funny, I don;t really expect everyone to proof read all their posts or to expect such precision in ones posts.
I will endeavour to provide accurate and precisely spelt posts from here in. Thanks for correcting me, as I said I am just human and in my walk of life, spelling is not a prerequisite, just a nice to have.
BAA - a building provider that like BA serves its shareholders to maximise profit. LHR is a mess but some of the regional airports they own are just fine, such as stansted.
don't have much of an opinion about them, as an earlier poster said, BA is on the door, when it cocks up it's BA customers look toward.
SallyAnne, can you proof my post for me? PM me any changes, save me the embaressment. Cheers.
I was being funny, I don;t really expect everyone to proof read all their posts or to expect such precision in ones posts.
I will endeavour to provide accurate and precisely spelt posts from here in. Thanks for correcting me, as I said I am just human and in my walk of life, spelling is not a prerequisite, just a nice to have.
BAA - a building provider that like BA serves its shareholders to maximise profit. LHR is a mess but some of the regional airports they own are just fine, such as stansted.
don't have much of an opinion about them, as an earlier poster said, BA is on the door, when it cocks up it's BA customers look toward.
SallyAnne, can you proof my post for me? PM me any changes, save me the embaressment. Cheers.
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1. BAA person unknown managed to delete a cell from an excel spreadsheet and all values in that column went up one so that userids and paswords were mismatched . Nothing to do with BA but added to the problems getting into the building resulted in 10000 bags not being loaded during the first few hours of operation and BA unable to get hold of the operation on the day again.
2. Another company forgot to turn the inter terminal transfer baggage system from test where you dont want bags transferred to live. again f*** all to do with BA staff or managers (with MBAs or not)
3. BAA failed to load correct BA schedule into the baggage system. Again nothing to do with BA
BA staff at all levels have in general have been working like hell to get the show back on the road. It is little wonder BAA have said nothing and I am surprised no one has passed the above info to a BA friendly journalist (if there are any).
2. Another company forgot to turn the inter terminal transfer baggage system from test where you dont want bags transferred to live. again f*** all to do with BA staff or managers (with MBAs or not)
3. BAA failed to load correct BA schedule into the baggage system. Again nothing to do with BA
BA staff at all levels have in general have been working like hell to get the show back on the road. It is little wonder BAA have said nothing and I am surprised no one has passed the above info to a BA friendly journalist (if there are any).
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Care to offer any proof to your comments 5Bells? or are you merely expressing a "company" opinion?
And for all you know, it just might be the truth. As inconvenient as that may be to the massed ranks of anti BA posters.
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Viewfrom5bells - you changed your post. I will reanswer. If that is correct then I am shocked. I think BAA should pay BA lots of competition and I take back all I have said about BA mismanagement of the situation.
Meantime, back in reality, what utter tosh. I love the way BA managers, looking to save their thickened hide get on here with their fanciful 'plots'. Trotskiite baggage teams sabotaging the operation, mistery BAA persons unknown deleting 1 cell on an xcell spreadsheet which throws the building into chaos.
Indeed how can BAA fail to load BA's schedule? No one knows BA's schedule, is that the Plan A, B C or D schedule?
The 'weak links' should have been identified and contingency planned for, what happened to turning up before the show a little early, make sure everything is running as expected. BA should of offered an incentive to get staff on the first day at their posts well in advanced.
Meantime, back in reality, what utter tosh. I love the way BA managers, looking to save their thickened hide get on here with their fanciful 'plots'. Trotskiite baggage teams sabotaging the operation, mistery BAA persons unknown deleting 1 cell on an xcell spreadsheet which throws the building into chaos.
Indeed how can BAA fail to load BA's schedule? No one knows BA's schedule, is that the Plan A, B C or D schedule?
The 'weak links' should have been identified and contingency planned for, what happened to turning up before the show a little early, make sure everything is running as expected. BA should of offered an incentive to get staff on the first day at their posts well in advanced.
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Like a previous poster, I have just had mail from BA telling me how they are about to move into T5 and how wonderful it will be - received after the event.
Also have an email asking me to complete a survey on why I am flying less often with the worlds favourite airline.....
I am flying with them less often because I am tired of being treated with total contempt whilst paying premium prices for a sub-standard product. There was no way to communicate the good news on the survey form.
I guess they will have to work it out for themselves.....
Also have an email asking me to complete a survey on why I am flying less often with the worlds favourite airline.....
I am flying with them less often because I am tired of being treated with total contempt whilst paying premium prices for a sub-standard product. There was no way to communicate the good news on the survey form.
I guess they will have to work it out for themselves.....
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L337 - yes of course things can be proved, the call from parliament for an independant investigation should be welcomed.
Personally I am concerned about the allegations related to the baggage staff. Maybe if there are any viewing they may want to jump in and provide a comment.
When I'm next in work I will make my own investigation into the matter, tip off a couple of senior managers who might have some influence and have the balls to do something about it.
If it;s going on, which I very much doubt, it has to be stopped.
Personally I am concerned about the allegations related to the baggage staff. Maybe if there are any viewing they may want to jump in and provide a comment.
When I'm next in work I will make my own investigation into the matter, tip off a couple of senior managers who might have some influence and have the balls to do something about it.
If it;s going on, which I very much doubt, it has to be stopped.
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He is asking for proof to be displayed on this forum. Clearly that cannot happen.
ROFLMO
When I'm next in work I will make my own investigation into the matter, tip off a couple of senior managers who might have some influence and have the balls to do something about it.
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SLF3b - That is exactly why I am so angry about what is going on at BA. Good people like yourself are leaving in droves.
those people who post the 'good news' on here have been reading and believing the BA news or are BA PR dept. Stop sticking your head in the sand, wake up and smell the coffee.
BA is a spent force, something big will have to occur before it turns around, but like the proverbial super tanker it'll take sometime. Sorry to have let you down SLF3b, and in response BA is too arrogant to work it out for themselves. If you can be arsed you may wish to let them know directly, let us know the response or lack of that you get back.
those people who post the 'good news' on here have been reading and believing the BA news or are BA PR dept. Stop sticking your head in the sand, wake up and smell the coffee.
BA is a spent force, something big will have to occur before it turns around, but like the proverbial super tanker it'll take sometime. Sorry to have let you down SLF3b, and in response BA is too arrogant to work it out for themselves. If you can be arsed you may wish to let them know directly, let us know the response or lack of that you get back.
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BAengineering
Do you think maybe you're becoming just a little bit obsessive about this?
Seems kinda strange to me if you work for BA that you keep knocking the company on this public forum. I guess their PR folks are doing their best in difficult circumstances, but you're doing your darndest to persuade potential customers on this high profile website not to believe them.
Wouldn't you like to see BA get over this problem as soon as possible and keep its customer base and win back any who got put off by this chaos?
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Do you think maybe you're becoming just a little bit obsessive about this?
Seems kinda strange to me if you work for BA that you keep knocking the company on this public forum. I guess their PR folks are doing their best in difficult circumstances, but you're doing your darndest to persuade potential customers on this high profile website not to believe them.
Wouldn't you like to see BA get over this problem as soon as possible and keep its customer base and win back any who got put off by this chaos?
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L337 - what on earth is so amusing about that? If it's going on I'll have a look, no problemo. (as BAA would say)
I know enough people in baggage that'll give an honest answer to prove or disprove the allegation. That's a positive step, what do you propose to establish the facts being submitted on this board?
I know enough people in baggage that'll give an honest answer to prove or disprove the allegation. That's a positive step, what do you propose to establish the facts being submitted on this board?
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BAengineering is the classic rogue employee that works for BA. The majority of the thousands that work for BA are dedicated hard working and committed people. Yes poorly managed, but 98% are out there day in and day out trying to make a cr@p system work. Some do nothing but complain, and see bad in everything. You work with them, and all they do is bitch and moan about everything. They see no good in anything. Some even spend there free time complaining in public, to the largest audience they can find. If, and that is an if, BAengineering works for BA then I am deeply embarrassed to be in the same company as him.
He is here on PPruNe trying to do as much damage as he can to BA. Irrespective of any truth, he has his agenda. He hates BA. It shows, and it is sad, but it shows.
BAengineering is the classic rogue employee that works for BA. The majority of the thousands that work for BA are dedicated hard working and committed people. Yes poorly managed, but 98% are out there day in and day out trying to make a cr@p system work. Some do nothing but complain, and see bad in everything. You work with them, and all they do is bitch and moan about everything. They see no good in anything. Some even spend there free time complaining in public, to the largest audience they can find. If, and that is an if, BAengineering works for BA then I am deeply embarrassed to be in the same company as him.
He is here on PPruNe trying to do as much damage as he can to BA. Irrespective of any truth, he has his agenda. He hates BA. It shows, and it is sad, but it shows.