Chaos at Terminal 5
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BBC talking point
As we speak the BBC talking point has 71 pages of customer comments, a record and the story is dieing. Sadly this is one of the top recommended comments;
Added: Friday, 28 March, 2008, 09:41 GMT 09:41 UK
Two simple rules for easy travelling:
1. Never fly with BA unless you absoutely have no choice.
2. Only use Heathrow if you can't fly from any other airport
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I think business is going to drop of rather sharply, advance bookings no looking too clever.
Added: Friday, 28 March, 2008, 09:41 GMT 09:41 UK
Two simple rules for easy travelling:
1. Never fly with BA unless you absoutely have no choice.
2. Only use Heathrow if you can't fly from any other airport
Elizabeth Straker
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I think business is going to drop of rather sharply, advance bookings no looking too clever.
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T5 Shambles
Rather than getting better as promised by Willie Walsh, the T5 shambles may be getting worst. My flight to Munich tomorrow (Sat) has been cancelled and as there weren't any other seats available on BA, I have been re booked on Sunday morning's flight. Four hours later I find out that the Sunday morning flight has also been "chopped".
Can anyone explain the reason for the continuing disaster?
Can anyone explain the reason for the continuing disaster?
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Calamity at Heathrow still led the BBC news at 10pm and front page on the Evening Standard again. There's a massive feeling of anger out there, no wonder that BA Manager ran from the press poor guy heh heh.
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I know I'm being incredibly naive but a more balanced view from the UK media would be welcomed. The BBC and Sky still have scolling banners proclaiming "more flights cancelled" or similar. To my knowledge no new flights have been cancelled today - i.e. other than the 36 that were planned and published at the start of the day.
British Airways plans to operate 293 out of 347 scheduled flights to and from Heathrow Terminal 5 on Saturday 29 March 2008.
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Getting worse
My word, the beast is growing horns!
Skynews (oh and it's their TOP story) states the following;
Weekend travel misery for Heathrow Terminal 5 passengers has been confirmed after British Airways announced 59 flights have been cancelled tomorrow.
That's more than todays 38 !!!! Holy smoly the wheel is really off the trolley. I've changed my mind, sorry Willy you can stay,
Skynews (oh and it's their TOP story) states the following;
Weekend travel misery for Heathrow Terminal 5 passengers has been confirmed after British Airways announced 59 flights have been cancelled tomorrow.
That's more than todays 38 !!!! Holy smoly the wheel is really off the trolley. I've changed my mind, sorry Willy you can stay,
Industrial Psychopaths
http://www.employersworld.co.uk/Arti...cle.php?id=10"
Read the rest yourself.
Lies, Self-Love and Paranoia
Adrian Furnham discusses the types of dysfunctional managers found only too often at the top of organisations.
Adrian Furnham
Professor of Psychology at University College London.
Recent research compared the personalities of in-mates of a maximum security prison and successful CEOs of quoted companies. The game, of course, was to find similarities rather than differences. And this is indeed what was found. The groups are most similar on three personality disorders; anti-social, narcissistic and paranoid.
.................The narcissistic manager is marked by grandiosity (in fantasy or behaviour), need for admiration, and lack of empathy. Self-centred, selfish, egotistical: they are everywhere in business – alas. They are self-important and exaggerate their successes and talents, expecting to be recognised as superior without commensurate achievements. Most are preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance and money. They believe they are special and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions). They may try to ‘buy’ themselves into exclusive circles.
Adrian Furnham discusses the types of dysfunctional managers found only too often at the top of organisations.
Adrian Furnham
Professor of Psychology at University College London.
Recent research compared the personalities of in-mates of a maximum security prison and successful CEOs of quoted companies. The game, of course, was to find similarities rather than differences. And this is indeed what was found. The groups are most similar on three personality disorders; anti-social, narcissistic and paranoid.
.................The narcissistic manager is marked by grandiosity (in fantasy or behaviour), need for admiration, and lack of empathy. Self-centred, selfish, egotistical: they are everywhere in business – alas. They are self-important and exaggerate their successes and talents, expecting to be recognised as superior without commensurate achievements. Most are preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance and money. They believe they are special and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions). They may try to ‘buy’ themselves into exclusive circles.
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You gotta read this
BA press dept admit they cocked it up!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...rwaysbusiness3
like the bit about Mr Deadwood running away from the press pack without answering a single question.
'Instead of taking questions, he ran off once the statement was complete.
Another mistake, admits Simpson, but again down to the fact he had little up-to-date information to impart.'
Or is that 'he is a clueless imbecile'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...rwaysbusiness3
like the bit about Mr Deadwood running away from the press pack without answering a single question.
'Instead of taking questions, he ran off once the statement was complete.
Another mistake, admits Simpson, but again down to the fact he had little up-to-date information to impart.'
Or is that 'he is a clueless imbecile'
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Sunfish I read it and am very worried as I have all the characteristics except I don't have a high powered job and suit. Just fix the bits the flyers bust enroute.
I better go see my shrink or maybe a career advisor, could I make it to the top of a PLC with all these wonderful personality disorders?
I better go see my shrink or maybe a career advisor, could I make it to the top of a PLC with all these wonderful personality disorders?
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It's starting
Financial times;
'Walsh’s fate lies with BA shareholders not passengers'
full article here
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c3b03f38-f...658,s01=1.html
'Walsh’s fate lies with BA shareholders not passengers'
full article here
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c3b03f38-f...658,s01=1.html
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Passenger fines
Looks like AUC will be fining BA
Check this out
http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/tol/...cle3642905.ece
BA looking at the cheap option again, more egg on face!!
What a bunch of wallies
Check this out
http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/tol/...cle3642905.ece
BA looking at the cheap option again, more egg on face!!
What a bunch of wallies
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I hope WW is going to refund my additional hotel bill etc and alternative route / airline back to UK. First BA flight Friday evening OSL-LHR cancelled, now I find Saturday's cancelled as well. Now shopping for anything but BA / LHR.
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IMHO a turning point is approaching.
WW will have to leave BA, maybe not immediately but certainly in the not too distant future. He will go with a golden handshake and a chorus of support from 'The Board' who actually will be glad to see him go. But publicly the politics will have to be seen otherwise. The new guy will have a mountain to climb but a few concessions to staff will have him looking good externally. But beware internallly as all thse CEO's are the same in the longer term. (save money, increase profitability, cut staff costs)
BAA is dying on its feet. Only a matter of time before its parts are sold off. But who will be brave enough to take on the monster of LHR?
WW will have to leave BA, maybe not immediately but certainly in the not too distant future. He will go with a golden handshake and a chorus of support from 'The Board' who actually will be glad to see him go. But publicly the politics will have to be seen otherwise. The new guy will have a mountain to climb but a few concessions to staff will have him looking good externally. But beware internallly as all thse CEO's are the same in the longer term. (save money, increase profitability, cut staff costs)
BAA is dying on its feet. Only a matter of time before its parts are sold off. But who will be brave enough to take on the monster of LHR?
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Seems like BA are facing fines over their alleged false claims information given to passengers.
http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/tol/...cle3642905.ece
http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/tol/...cle3642905.ece
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Sorry if someone has mentioned The Pythons already. Too many posts to wade through for my attention span.
I first heard this enroute SYD-LHR many years ago.
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/monty-pyt...o-worried.html
I first heard this enroute SYD-LHR many years ago.
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/monty-pyt...o-worried.html
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Comparison; LHR/SIN
Flew through SIN recently, on opening day plus one for their new terminal - clockwork!! Efficient smiling faces ever willing to help. Relaxed, clean and even during the peak, an air of tranquilness.
Now comape this to LHR where we departed (T4) from 12 hours earlier - dirty, smelly and ques everywhere. Grumpy ole men, and women, demonstrating their displeasure at being there onto the poor (no option after getting sucked in at the grotty shopping mall checkouts) punters.
Send some of the so-called experts to other regions to learn how to do the job properley!!!
Now comape this to LHR where we departed (T4) from 12 hours earlier - dirty, smelly and ques everywhere. Grumpy ole men, and women, demonstrating their displeasure at being there onto the poor (no option after getting sucked in at the grotty shopping mall checkouts) punters.
Send some of the so-called experts to other regions to learn how to do the job properley!!!
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Anything new with the logistics of a large international airport is going to have problems that will take at least a couple weeks to work out all the kinks. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Similar experience as Blue Heaven, came through Sing's new terminal recently from LHR chalk and cheese.
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It may be a new terminal but its not exactly the first one is it?
I assume that it will eventually come together but that seems to be the norm in the UK these days, it'l be alright on the night.
fly767
It may be a new terminal but its not exactly the first one is it?
I assume that it will eventually come together but that seems to be the norm in the UK these days, it'l be alright on the night.
