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Is this shift of the Brussels Services from Newcastle and Bristol going to utilise the Aircraft being released by mainline currently flying out of LHR. Or are they being moved from elsewhere in the network.
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BRU - NCL service
i remember reading somewhere that bmi were to transfer there LHR-BRU service to SN in the new year so maybe they need the aircraft that was serving ncl?
in return bmi regional has a smaller spare aircraft so increasing the daily flight that ncl had which was rubbish as nobody could connect onto there long haul flights due to poor timings so hopefully this new 3 x daily service will make more money for the group as a whole?
in return bmi regional has a smaller spare aircraft so increasing the daily flight that ncl had which was rubbish as nobody could connect onto there long haul flights due to poor timings so hopefully this new 3 x daily service will make more money for the group as a whole?
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Kerrrist! Get real!
What's going to change in the next few years, let alone next year, that's going to achieve bmi profitability at LHR?
A reversal of NT's obviously suicidal LHR fare structure fiasco would help, but that should have been done on the same the day it was announced, not years of damage later. Was MB in a coma at the time?
Only hope is that decent LH management will turn things around. Good luck to them. Dump all the dumbos to start with.
What's going to change in the next few years, let alone next year, that's going to achieve bmi profitability at LHR?
A reversal of NT's obviously suicidal LHR fare structure fiasco would help, but that should have been done on the same the day it was announced, not years of damage later. Was MB in a coma at the time?
Only hope is that decent LH management will turn things around. Good luck to them. Dump all the dumbos to start with.
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Eh-oop Alphaeye! There's nowt wrong with bmi that all that Lufthansa brass can't fix.
Mebbe if tha' got oop a tad earlier and read this month's papers 'stead of last month's Yorkshire Post tha'd have a bit more nouse!
Annie
Mebbe if tha' got oop a tad earlier and read this month's papers 'stead of last month's Yorkshire Post tha'd have a bit more nouse!
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What's going to change in the next few years, let alone next year, that's going to achieve bmi profitability at LHR?
If they want to play airlines perhaps they should put the 321s at EMA in charter fit and use them solely for bucket and spade flights: a small PE cabin and bulk Y.
Keep the 320s and 319s at LHR and provide a proper service: not no frills, but meals, drinks, proper C Class seats and service even with drinks and snacks / meals in Y.
Ditch the underperforming ex BMed routes ( if they were that good BA would have kept them) and keep the 330s.
Operate the 330s from LHR to the Caribbean and US holiday type destinations and feed those services from the SH routes.
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Ditch the underperforming ex BMed routes ( if they were that good BA would have kept them)
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I think the point that TheRealSlimShady was making (and I am not necessarily saying that the ex bmed routes should be binned or not) was that BA havent shown a big interest in these markets. When BMed was being sold BA did not go after it and unlike in the case of when GB was sold BA didnt go or apply for licences to apply for these routes ie the ex Bmed ones. There was a general commentary on here and in the aviation media that those routes were difficult to make a return on for various reasons and some to a lesser or greater extent eg political unrest etc.
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Real Slim Shady -
Problem with your theory there is....
- It's actually the ex-BMED routes which are propping UP the traditionally bmi network at the minute, as this is p£$%%*g money.
- Even though the 330s are pretty full on the routes they are currently doing (TLV, CAI and Saudi) the yields aren't great and the extortianate leesing rates make them totally un-profitable...hence why they're still being sent back.
- Passengers flying to the Carribbean don't part with enough money for their seats, and there's not much premium traffic to start with, let alone at the minute!...so even if we were going to keep the 330s, leisure destinations from LHR struggle to pay.
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Problem with your theory there is....
- It's actually the ex-BMED routes which are propping UP the traditionally bmi network at the minute, as this is p£$%%*g money.
- Even though the 330s are pretty full on the routes they are currently doing (TLV, CAI and Saudi) the yields aren't great and the extortianate leesing rates make them totally un-profitable...hence why they're still being sent back.
- Passengers flying to the Carribbean don't part with enough money for their seats, and there's not much premium traffic to start with, let alone at the minute!...so even if we were going to keep the 330s, leisure destinations from LHR struggle to pay.
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ayebmi, hardly surprising they can't make money using a 330 with 220 seats on a route (TLV) you can use a 737NG or 757.
That tho is the least of their problems: even on RUH with the dearest economy seat £447 to the cheapest,THY £286, for the same dates in Feb the 330 lease must be astronomical!
On the same dates the VS Y ticket to BGI is about th same price per nm as the bmi ticket to RUH so the Caribbean could easily be profitable given the right lease rate.
That tho is the least of their problems: even on RUH with the dearest economy seat £447 to the cheapest,THY £286, for the same dates in Feb the 330 lease must be astronomical!
On the same dates the VS Y ticket to BGI is about th same price per nm as the bmi ticket to RUH so the Caribbean could easily be profitable given the right lease rate.
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TRSS
You may well be correct about the 330 leases being very expensive. Let me think for a nanosecond who will have been either directly (or indirectly) benefitting from said stitch-up???
-yep, the old man again.
Trying to free the airline from that robber's influence is like trying to get rid of the smell of dog sh*t from one's shoes.
You may well be correct about the 330 leases being very expensive. Let me think for a nanosecond who will have been either directly (or indirectly) benefitting from said stitch-up???
-yep, the old man again.
Trying to free the airline from that robber's influence is like trying to get rid of the smell of dog sh*t from one's shoes.
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skip, would that be along the same lines as the charge for turning round a Fokker at JSY by Midland Handling?
Same price Servisair charged at MAN for turning round a 747: wonder where that money went?
Same price Servisair charged at MAN for turning round a 747: wonder where that money went?
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skip, would that be along the same lines as the charge for turning round a Fokker at JSY by Midland Handling?
Of course when Midland Handling became aviance it was a different story. They became a 3rd party company, and although they kept the bmi contract there was still the choice.
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Originally Posted by TRSS
Midland Handling ( Jersey ) Ltd was a convenient offshore company separate from the UK based airline.