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Flyglobespan appears to be a shining example of responsible management. From the Scotsman:
But Flyglobespan chairman Tom Dalrymple yesterday told The Scotsman: "Unlike other airlines who have gone under, Flyglobespan has no debt.
"On the contrary, we have significant cash assets built up over many years of successful trading and, in addition, we have substantial property assets at home and abroad. We also have a proven business plan."
What a refreshing change from other businesses (airlines and others), whose management siphon all profits and assets out of the company during good times, leaving nothing there to enable the company to survive the hard times.
But Flyglobespan chairman Tom Dalrymple yesterday told The Scotsman: "Unlike other airlines who have gone under, Flyglobespan has no debt.
"On the contrary, we have significant cash assets built up over many years of successful trading and, in addition, we have substantial property assets at home and abroad. We also have a proven business plan."
What a refreshing change from other businesses (airlines and others), whose management siphon all profits and assets out of the company during good times, leaving nothing there to enable the company to survive the hard times.
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Yea its good now, in the past different story especially when it was TD taking it on himself.
Nowadays though things are much better and i think for these people who are betting on GSM going bust, it might be a wasted bet!
Nowadays though things are much better and i think for these people who are betting on GSM going bust, it might be a wasted bet!
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For one reason and one reason only i dont want them to go bust.
Weve got a court case coming up to screw the B******S
Bit like they screwed us last year.
and no i wont get over it until they pay up what they owe us..
Weve got a court case coming up to screw the B******S
Bit like they screwed us last year.
and no i wont get over it until they pay up what they owe us..
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Bet away,Pal. You know the old addage, "A fool & his money...." Post the link here if you can access it then we can all have a go.
If you think we are sitting around MAN on full pay with no flying then you are considerably thicker than you appear in your posts.
The MAN based crews are being used on the Air Callin ACMI contract in Noumea & BZZ-ASI-MPA MoD run & supplement the Air India operations ex-LHR with an occasional SFB on the 757 to keep in check.
The LHR & LGW crews operate on primarily the Air India ops & will supplement the BZZ work, although I believe a few volunteered for a 2 month stint in Noumea & the odd 757 trip.
Your question "...what am I missing here?" I would say brains, commercial accumen & an insight into long haul airline & ACMI operations.
Now would you like to have a pop at us over anything else or have you had enough of looking like an ignorant gobsh*te?
Bet away,Pal. You know the old addage, "A fool & his money...." Post the link here if you can access it then we can all have a go.
If you think we are sitting around MAN on full pay with no flying then you are considerably thicker than you appear in your posts.
The MAN based crews are being used on the Air Callin ACMI contract in Noumea & BZZ-ASI-MPA MoD run & supplement the Air India operations ex-LHR with an occasional SFB on the 757 to keep in check.
The LHR & LGW crews operate on primarily the Air India ops & will supplement the BZZ work, although I believe a few volunteered for a 2 month stint in Noumea & the odd 757 trip.
Your question "...what am I missing here?" I would say brains, commercial accumen & an insight into long haul airline & ACMI operations.
Now would you like to have a pop at us over anything else or have you had enough of looking like an ignorant gobsh*te?
There is a lot of bitterness on this rather long and rambling thread. No disrespect was intended. I generally manage to disagree without resorting to name calling and throwing toys from the pram. Pontius if you are *really* a professional pilot, I would moderate my language.
My commercial acumen tells me the company has descended into dysfunctional bitterness. Frankly if I was a betting man, I'd put the money on now if that's the atititude of the "people" that are involved in this firm.
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I tried exactly the same but the supervisor on the UK phone number for PaddyPower wouldn't take my bet either... suprise! Suprise!
Skippy
I apologise if you thought I was 'name calling', however I find it very hard to comprehend how 'someone' who claims to be an educated analyst can continue to have problems understanding a passage of text stated 3 times unless it is due to sheer incredulation at the fact. If that is the case, then that 'someone' needs a little guidance in the composition of an airline's structure & everyday operational role. When confronted with an opportunity for 'subjective enlightenment' that 'someone' should accept the bearer's comments in good faith & cease to ask the same question especially when it receives the same response.
You see, Skippy, I don't know what type of office you work in or the capabilities of the team you work with, but in my working 'office', our teams regard effective, simplistic & efficient communication as the norm' & even when working in flight decks comprising 3 or 4 non-english (as a first language) speaking crew members, & leading a team comprising up to 10 differant nationalities, I have never, ever, ever had to repeat myself twice in over 23 years of flying passengers around the globe.
To GSM 'knockers' in general, TD's statement says it all. GSM is debt free, cash rich & secure. However, GSM isn't vulnerable to shareholders obligations, isn't fazed by adverse comments of a sensationalist, 'scaremongering obsessed', largely ignorant London-based press & is going to be around for a long,long time. I suggest you adapt to this 'revelation'.
To those who were victims of GSM's 'annus horribilis' last year, then I sympathise. It is scant consolation, I know, but the passengers I've carried this season from MAN, DUB, BFS & GLA have passed on generally very favourable comments & frequently asked why GSM hadn't advertised the services, particularly ex-MAN & DUB, more.
To our supporters, colleagues & satisfied customers a big THANK YOU!
I tried exactly the same but the supervisor on the UK phone number for PaddyPower wouldn't take my bet either... suprise! Suprise!
Skippy
I apologise if you thought I was 'name calling', however I find it very hard to comprehend how 'someone' who claims to be an educated analyst can continue to have problems understanding a passage of text stated 3 times unless it is due to sheer incredulation at the fact. If that is the case, then that 'someone' needs a little guidance in the composition of an airline's structure & everyday operational role. When confronted with an opportunity for 'subjective enlightenment' that 'someone' should accept the bearer's comments in good faith & cease to ask the same question especially when it receives the same response.
You see, Skippy, I don't know what type of office you work in or the capabilities of the team you work with, but in my working 'office', our teams regard effective, simplistic & efficient communication as the norm' & even when working in flight decks comprising 3 or 4 non-english (as a first language) speaking crew members, & leading a team comprising up to 10 differant nationalities, I have never, ever, ever had to repeat myself twice in over 23 years of flying passengers around the globe.
To GSM 'knockers' in general, TD's statement says it all. GSM is debt free, cash rich & secure. However, GSM isn't vulnerable to shareholders obligations, isn't fazed by adverse comments of a sensationalist, 'scaremongering obsessed', largely ignorant London-based press & is going to be around for a long,long time. I suggest you adapt to this 'revelation'.
To those who were victims of GSM's 'annus horribilis' last year, then I sympathise. It is scant consolation, I know, but the passengers I've carried this season from MAN, DUB, BFS & GLA have passed on generally very favourable comments & frequently asked why GSM hadn't advertised the services, particularly ex-MAN & DUB, more.
To our supporters, colleagues & satisfied customers a big THANK YOU!
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Lets just say that when you employ over a hundred people you dont get away with 30 days consultation, its 90 days.
its all in the hands of the union and the solicitors.
So please dont go bust...
Lets just say that when you employ over a hundred people you dont get away with 30 days consultation, its 90 days.
its all in the hands of the union and the solicitors.
So please dont go bust...
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Yes obviously you work for them, were you also one of the flight deck that called them fit to burn when we did the cape towns.
Not one person had a good word for them, now they got thru the summer with one less delay your all having a fanfare.
At the end of the day they will grab any contract anywhere and shaft anyone that doesnt agree.. enjoy..
Yes obviously you work for them, were you also one of the flight deck that called them fit to burn when we did the cape towns.
Not one person had a good word for them, now they got thru the summer with one less delay your all having a fanfare.
At the end of the day they will grab any contract anywhere and shaft anyone that doesnt agree.. enjoy..
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Confirmed Must Ride............Re BRS today.
Mmmmm??????? Dont where you got your info from, the Handling Company did know about the schedule change today.
Handling staff were on shift in the morning for the arrival YHM/DUB/BRS. Also midday for the departure.
Mmmmm??????? Dont where you got your info from, the Handling Company did know about the schedule change today.
Handling staff were on shift in the morning for the arrival YHM/DUB/BRS. Also midday for the departure.
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Reference to the two B767 on maintenance at Luton "FG" & "PT".
"FG" originally due out today off "C" check ready for BZZ-ASI-MPA MoD run.
However due to findings on "C" check it will now not be operating said contract for a few weeks.
It is now due out of LTN on Friday, when it will position to MAN for further work to be carried out.
Due to this "PT" positioned into LTN for work to be carried out so it can cover for "FG" on the BZZ-ASI-MPA MoD run for a few weeks.
I guess this is why sub charters have taken place over the weekend.
"FG" originally due out today off "C" check ready for BZZ-ASI-MPA MoD run.
However due to findings on "C" check it will now not be operating said contract for a few weeks.
It is now due out of LTN on Friday, when it will position to MAN for further work to be carried out.
Due to this "PT" positioned into LTN for work to be carried out so it can cover for "FG" on the BZZ-ASI-MPA MoD run for a few weeks.
I guess this is why sub charters have taken place over the weekend.
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Hi
Can anyone tell me what the GLA-SFB will be operating on tomorrow. I have friends travelling on the service and seen that today's was routed via bangor.
Just interested as I know from seating plans it was supposed to be the 767 going I seen them down in LTN today and not too sure what is happening.
Cheers in adavance for any help!
Can anyone tell me what the GLA-SFB will be operating on tomorrow. I have friends travelling on the service and seen that today's was routed via bangor.
Just interested as I know from seating plans it was supposed to be the 767 going I seen them down in LTN today and not too sure what is happening.
Cheers in adavance for any help!
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Just as well you have nothing to do with them then Skipness 
Jet2 now launched Edinburgh-Dusseldorf major expansion on there part at EDI.
Whatever happened to that agreement between the companies to not compete on the same routes or overload each others bases or was that just a muchual agreement for a while?
Jet2 now launched Edinburgh-Dusseldorf major expansion on there part at EDI.
Whatever happened to that agreement between the companies to not compete on the same routes or overload each others bases or was that just a muchual agreement for a while?
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To Hunters....I got the info from the member of staff standing at the desk who turned up at 0700 expecting to check in passengers. The airport management on duty also said of their surprise as did the passengers who duly turned up at check-in for 0745..oh yes and the security company who were ready to set up after confirming with GS that the flight was operating at normal times.
I am not knocking the flight crew in anyway who I am sure run a very good, safe and secure operation. It just seems a shame that they lack support from the people behind the scenes.
The same happened 2 weeks previous.
I am sure that all the customers who turned up ( that were not informed of the schedule change) were all advised of their rights as per EU261..??? Guess not
I am not knocking the flight crew in anyway who I am sure run a very good, safe and secure operation. It just seems a shame that they lack support from the people behind the scenes.
The same happened 2 weeks previous.
I am sure that all the customers who turned up ( that were not informed of the schedule change) were all advised of their rights as per EU261..??? Guess not
Some people don't have post a load of b*ll*cks on here! 
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Your theory is correct. Any idea on a date for the ferry flight? I'm on a block of standbys & days off but have asked crewing to put me on the flight regardless.
Skipness
If you don't seek patronisation may I suggest you don't leave yourself as an open goal. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on just about everything. No hard feelings. I don't have a throne- just a seat with a remarkable view & I'm privileged to work with some fantastically professional crews, sometimes it honestly seems a shame to take the money & work is more like a hobby.
I take it as a personal attack & tantermount to public slander, that you question my ability to pilot an aircraft safely & efficiently & my ability to work with & command a crew when you don't even know me. Quite a scaremongerer aren't you? Then again maybe that's your trade or what flicks your switch, eitherway, it shows that you aren't exactly 'whiter than white' in the mud-slinging stakes- I had the decency to offer apologies when you thought I had offended you, whether you can extend the same courtesy is for you to decide. Come down off your ivory tower,man.
As for you, Diesel36, when GSM had the cull of crew at MAN, I assume that's where you were 'not invited back'. They kept the cream of , in the main, an exceptional team of people. I'm just disappointed that you would willingly relish your former colleagues, & possibly some current friends being dumped on the dole queue. There was a very small pod of particularly bitter crew who 'weren't asked back' for various reasons not for the public forum, I don't suppose you're one of them are you? I mean you do sound terribly bitter.
And yes I did some of the CPT's and yes, when they altered the schedule to the 'min-rest' strategy, the experienced 'old sweats' (myself included) protested to the (mis)management of the day & told them of the ramifications. The rest is history. I'm sorry you can't move on until you get your 'compo' & GSM is dead & buried, but you may be in for a long wait... for the latter not the former. Personally I mightly relieved you won't be offering us tea & coffee every 20 mins any more.
Your theory is correct. Any idea on a date for the ferry flight? I'm on a block of standbys & days off but have asked crewing to put me on the flight regardless.
Skipness
If you don't seek patronisation may I suggest you don't leave yourself as an open goal. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on just about everything. No hard feelings. I don't have a throne- just a seat with a remarkable view & I'm privileged to work with some fantastically professional crews, sometimes it honestly seems a shame to take the money & work is more like a hobby.
I take it as a personal attack & tantermount to public slander, that you question my ability to pilot an aircraft safely & efficiently & my ability to work with & command a crew when you don't even know me. Quite a scaremongerer aren't you? Then again maybe that's your trade or what flicks your switch, eitherway, it shows that you aren't exactly 'whiter than white' in the mud-slinging stakes- I had the decency to offer apologies when you thought I had offended you, whether you can extend the same courtesy is for you to decide. Come down off your ivory tower,man.
As for you, Diesel36, when GSM had the cull of crew at MAN, I assume that's where you were 'not invited back'. They kept the cream of , in the main, an exceptional team of people. I'm just disappointed that you would willingly relish your former colleagues, & possibly some current friends being dumped on the dole queue. There was a very small pod of particularly bitter crew who 'weren't asked back' for various reasons not for the public forum, I don't suppose you're one of them are you? I mean you do sound terribly bitter.
And yes I did some of the CPT's and yes, when they altered the schedule to the 'min-rest' strategy, the experienced 'old sweats' (myself included) protested to the (mis)management of the day & told them of the ramifications. The rest is history. I'm sorry you can't move on until you get your 'compo' & GSM is dead & buried, but you may be in for a long wait... for the latter not the former. Personally I mightly relieved you won't be offering us tea & coffee every 20 mins any more.
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Pontious - with regards to them keeping the "creme de la creme" at MAN. The people who went back were the ones who were desperate to pay bills who had not found anything else. There were only a couple who actually "went back" the others were never laid off and went to Santa Barbara and the rest came from Astraeus who I hear are not happy with the professionalism and the "amateur" quote operation and management at GSM. Again another bunch of people who needed a job and never came to GSM out of choice. The words "scrape" & "barrel" spring to mind.
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I find your last 2 postings quite contradictory. In your second post, you say that the 'ask backs' were desperate to come back because they couldn't find anything else-If I were them I'd take issue with that as you infer they were incapable of gaining employment elsewhere therefore tantermount to unemployable.
The 11 (now 9) MAN based Cabin Crew kept on & sent to Santa Barbara had an absolute ball down there, have (to quote 3 of them who I flew with 2 weeks ago) had a bloody good season this summer & most (all bar 1) are looking forward to going to French Polynesia for a month, some two & some are looking forward to a return to the MoD's Falklands route for the winter & Canada next summer.
The ex-Astraeus crews I've come across have simply been grateful to have a job... which leads me back to your first post. In your first post you think aviation would be a better place without GSM. Really? How many people would that dump on the dole? They would lose out, as would the consumer because it would significantly reduce the competition on a route mainly used by people travelling to see relatives by a more accessible Lo cost option.
How you can wish the demise of an employer costing hundreds of Scottish jobs in one breath, then proliferate their welfare & concerns in the next simply beggars belief.
I find your last 2 postings quite contradictory. In your second post, you say that the 'ask backs' were desperate to come back because they couldn't find anything else-If I were them I'd take issue with that as you infer they were incapable of gaining employment elsewhere therefore tantermount to unemployable.
The 11 (now 9) MAN based Cabin Crew kept on & sent to Santa Barbara had an absolute ball down there, have (to quote 3 of them who I flew with 2 weeks ago) had a bloody good season this summer & most (all bar 1) are looking forward to going to French Polynesia for a month, some two & some are looking forward to a return to the MoD's Falklands route for the winter & Canada next summer.
The ex-Astraeus crews I've come across have simply been grateful to have a job... which leads me back to your first post. In your first post you think aviation would be a better place without GSM. Really? How many people would that dump on the dole? They would lose out, as would the consumer because it would significantly reduce the competition on a route mainly used by people travelling to see relatives by a more accessible Lo cost option.
How you can wish the demise of an employer costing hundreds of Scottish jobs in one breath, then proliferate their welfare & concerns in the next simply beggars belief.