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Re Pontius
Me thinks he doth protest too much.
Such loyalty is commendable....seriously
I was the same for my company on here loyal until the end when i got an official email at 0057 12/9/8
Now I have a ub40 and a sore arse.
" working with a great team " is laudable but doesnt lubricate your backside
I genuinly wish those at GSM well and do agree on one thing the press have the ability to cause a run on anything seemingly just for sport.So lets hope the credit crunch fecks up a few lowlifes in fleet street instead.
Oh and I hope the pax who missed their flight get over it. Ill be thinking of them in six weeks as I get my fist 60 quid.
Me thinks he doth protest too much.
Such loyalty is commendable....seriously
I was the same for my company on here loyal until the end when i got an official email at 0057 12/9/8
Now I have a ub40 and a sore arse.
" working with a great team " is laudable but doesnt lubricate your backside
I genuinly wish those at GSM well and do agree on one thing the press have the ability to cause a run on anything seemingly just for sport.So lets hope the credit crunch fecks up a few lowlifes in fleet street instead.
Oh and I hope the pax who missed their flight get over it. Ill be thinking of them in six weeks as I get my fist 60 quid.
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Errr! Guys.
Two things:
One. Leave your angst and abuse BEHIND the very first letter you write when you post.
Two. Think about what you have written and be sure that you are, at the very least, entering a debate before you press the SUBMIT button.
Two or three posts already deleted with no bans, but don't bet on it - it depends on anyone choosing to drag this thread down.
AA&R mods.
Two things:
One. Leave your angst and abuse BEHIND the very first letter you write when you post.
Two. Think about what you have written and be sure that you are, at the very least, entering a debate before you press the SUBMIT button.
Two or three posts already deleted with no bans, but don't bet on it - it depends on anyone choosing to drag this thread down.
AA&R mods.
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I would never like to see anyone on the dole, but still stand by my quote of the U.K aviation industry being a better place without GSM. The people who I stated were desperate as they could not find anything else, were actually desperated for something/anything, at least one was nearly losing her house. You are either very loyal/know nothing else/very gullible or all 3. GSM is the pits.
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Sorry, Pop. Point taken.
YHM,
Try:
Loyal/Know a fair bit/Wiley I would say all 3 of those, & I stand by my remarks, at least your friend still has a job & is able to pay her mortgage, now watch those personal insults, 'Pop has spoken.
YHM,
Try:
Loyal/Know a fair bit/Wiley I would say all 3 of those, & I stand by my remarks, at least your friend still has a job & is able to pay her mortgage, now watch those personal insults, 'Pop has spoken.
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Hamiltonyhm, "I would never like to see anyone on the dole, but still stand by my quote of the U.K aviation industry being a better place without GSM."
You are without doubt a very sad person.
you are just doing your utmost to sow the seeds of depression among some very hard working and pleasant staff.
I feel very sorry for you but i feel sorrier for those who hve the miisfortune to have to work with you.
You are without doubt a very sad person.
you are just doing your utmost to sow the seeds of depression among some very hard working and pleasant staff.
I feel very sorry for you but i feel sorrier for those who hve the miisfortune to have to work with you.
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I’m please to hear Jet2 have announced new routes from EDI. Not too sure about major expansion though. The ramp space at EDI is now non existent. There is not one spare stand at night on week days and stands are over subscribed at weekends - just have a look at the GAT and remote/cargo areas!
As for multi-party agreements for operators not competing on routes, Jet2 and GSM are only competing on one route – IBZ. Having had a look at the times and costs, GSM are almost £200 cheaper than Jet 2. There is only one flight per week from both, one on Thursday the other on Saturday. Monarch fly to IBZ in the summer too remember!
There’s plenty of the dance crowd wanting to go to IBZ – enough business going for all I reckon!
I’m please to hear Jet2 have announced new routes from EDI. Not too sure about major expansion though. The ramp space at EDI is now non existent. There is not one spare stand at night on week days and stands are over subscribed at weekends - just have a look at the GAT and remote/cargo areas!
As for multi-party agreements for operators not competing on routes, Jet2 and GSM are only competing on one route – IBZ. Having had a look at the times and costs, GSM are almost £200 cheaper than Jet 2. There is only one flight per week from both, one on Thursday the other on Saturday. Monarch fly to IBZ in the summer too remember!
There’s plenty of the dance crowd wanting to go to IBZ – enough business going for all I reckon!
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Come on guys – lets keep the handbags down!
Last year was not a good year for us – for many reasons that are very well documented both here and in the press! But that really is behind us now.
I feel for those that were left with a bitter aftertaste, but that’s the way it is. Yes there were displaced crew after base closures, re-jigging of schedules and periods of minimum rest – but I could bet those changes saved the company!
diesel36,
Ok, some were laid off too – that happens. Were you on a summer contract? Look at those who were at Silverjet, XL, Zoom…… you are not any different to them - other than they had no consultation period! Wishing GSM the worst.... I wonder how your former friends and colleagues would feel if they knew your objective….but if that’s your aim in life just now and it makes you happy, as everyone should be happy of course - go for it, best of luck!
Hamiltonyhm,
I’m confused about your comments. "I would never like to see anyone on the dole, but still stand by my quote of the U.K aviation industry being a better place without GSM." is contradictory beyond belief!
If GSM were out of business, the UK aviation would be a far worse place. Think about for a second. There are no jobs in the UK market in this sector, hundred’s of those within our supply chain would have to review their own companies positions and probably make redundancies. And think about all of those abroad! The CAA are seriously struggling to repatriate the XL customer base! I very much doubt all of that is better - Do you?
Last year was not a good year for us – for many reasons that are very well documented both here and in the press! But that really is behind us now.
I feel for those that were left with a bitter aftertaste, but that’s the way it is. Yes there were displaced crew after base closures, re-jigging of schedules and periods of minimum rest – but I could bet those changes saved the company!
diesel36,
Ok, some were laid off too – that happens. Were you on a summer contract? Look at those who were at Silverjet, XL, Zoom…… you are not any different to them - other than they had no consultation period! Wishing GSM the worst.... I wonder how your former friends and colleagues would feel if they knew your objective….but if that’s your aim in life just now and it makes you happy, as everyone should be happy of course - go for it, best of luck!
Hamiltonyhm,
I’m confused about your comments. "I would never like to see anyone on the dole, but still stand by my quote of the U.K aviation industry being a better place without GSM." is contradictory beyond belief!
If GSM were out of business, the UK aviation would be a far worse place. Think about for a second. There are no jobs in the UK market in this sector, hundred’s of those within our supply chain would have to review their own companies positions and probably make redundancies. And think about all of those abroad! The CAA are seriously struggling to repatriate the XL customer base! I very much doubt all of that is better - Do you?
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Fair point Chickenstrips 
Anybody know whats happening with the fleet next year more specific:
Are the 733's staying or going?
Is G-CDKT staying now?
What 767s will be operating S09?
Why is the YHM schedule starting in June again next year and only running till September?
Anybody know whats happening with the fleet next year more specific:
Are the 733's staying or going?
Is G-CDKT staying now?
What 767s will be operating S09?
Why is the YHM schedule starting in June again next year and only running till September?
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4567; As far as I know, all the 736s were to be sold. I don't believe KT will be staying, and I haven't heard anything to say that we're keeping one!
As regards extending the B733's lease, we just don't know!! The guys at MME are hoping they stay....... I do hear whispers of 2 more NGs though.
FG is operating the MOD contract. That would leave PT and OD for SFB & YYC/YVR over S09.
LJ
As regards extending the B733's lease, we just don't know!! The guys at MME are hoping they stay....... I do hear whispers of 2 more NGs though.
FG is operating the MOD contract. That would leave PT and OD for SFB & YYC/YVR over S09.
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'JM is operating on a contract from BHX to Amritsar for W08/09 then UK-YHM for S09.
'FG is absolutely spotless & sporting a brand new interior with an 'airborne surgery'. It will be long term 'Falklands Stalwart' for 2 (maybe 4) years.
'PT has been given a tempo' 'Falklands Fit' until 'FG's ferry to MAN & subsequent 'C' Check can be completed. Then will probably be Haj-bound from Indonesia then post-Haj re-fit somewhere.
'OD has already set off to Noumea for 2 months & ends up in AUH for a massive re-fit.
I can only summise that for the S09 programme, Flt Ops can only guarantee aircraft availability from 01Jun09-30Sep09. I'm thinking ACMI's Nov-Apr, 1 month pre & post ACMI for 'hangar time' & any neccessary re-configs. plus maximising the months when GSM's pax loads will be almost maximum.
As a relatively 'seasoned vet' of ACMI with 2 years in Titan' & almost 7 years in AMM/FCA, I should say GSM probably need 1 more 757 & another 767-300 in order to completely cover & expand their own schedule while maximising availability for the ACMI's.
'FG is absolutely spotless & sporting a brand new interior with an 'airborne surgery'. It will be long term 'Falklands Stalwart' for 2 (maybe 4) years.
'PT has been given a tempo' 'Falklands Fit' until 'FG's ferry to MAN & subsequent 'C' Check can be completed. Then will probably be Haj-bound from Indonesia then post-Haj re-fit somewhere.
'OD has already set off to Noumea for 2 months & ends up in AUH for a massive re-fit.
I can only summise that for the S09 programme, Flt Ops can only guarantee aircraft availability from 01Jun09-30Sep09. I'm thinking ACMI's Nov-Apr, 1 month pre & post ACMI for 'hangar time' & any neccessary re-configs. plus maximising the months when GSM's pax loads will be almost maximum.
As a relatively 'seasoned vet' of ACMI with 2 years in Titan' & almost 7 years in AMM/FCA, I should say GSM probably need 1 more 757 & another 767-300 in order to completely cover & expand their own schedule while maximising availability for the ACMI's.
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As an ex employee of FGS and in a fairly seniour position it amazes mr that some people want them to go bust I left with somewhat of a black cloud over my head after falling foul of TD but would never even in my darkest hour want them to go down I had a great year and a half there earned good money and managed to get home every night for the first time in many years worked with some great people and made friend that I will keep for life how someone can say (and repeat) the aviation industry would be better of without them is just way of the mark FGS are making a living for a lot of people and as far as I am concerned I hope they continue and prosper lets be honest if they did go belly up TD would not go bust just the hard working employees.
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Hi has anyone got an e-mail address for HR dept at Globespan.
Also, do you know if they will carry a despatcher on the Falklands flights , or will they have a ground based despatcher at BZZ ??
Many thanks
Also, do you know if they will carry a despatcher on the Falklands flights , or will they have a ground based despatcher at BZZ ??
Many thanks
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Insurance company wont insure me for globespan
I have just tried to get insurance cover incase my airline going t**s up, priced up a flight with globespan and before i accepted the details and payed for it , I imediately went to get the extra insurance from protectmyholiday.com, but they wont offer insurance against this airliner, they will do it for Jet2 but not globespan, needless to say I didnt book. This has made me quite worried now
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If you pay for your flight with a credit card you are fully protected as the credit card company will fully refund your ticket price if the airline goes bust (debit cards do not offer the same protection), therefore I wouldnt bother with this extra insurance. As for GSM going under I would be very surprised if this happens and I wouldnt have any problems booking with them. You may however want to have a look at the Skytrax website with regards to customer feedback, this is mixed to say the least.
If you pay for your flight with a credit card you are fully protected as the credit card company will fully refund your ticket price if the airline goes bust (debit cards do not offer the same protection), therefore I wouldnt bother with this extra insurance. As for GSM going under I would be very surprised if this happens and I wouldnt have any problems booking with them. You may however want to have a look at the Skytrax website with regards to customer feedback, this is mixed to say the least.
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loobysue, if you have not booked what are you worried about? or are you just trying to scare other people reading this? Strikes me that there is a lot of this going on about GSM all over the net just now. Not sure what people get out of spreading rumours like this.
I have booked flights with GSM. I fly in a few weeks time and am not in the slightest bit worried. I have also already booked up next years holiday. Got a great deal.
I have booked flights with GSM. I fly in a few weeks time and am not in the slightest bit worried. I have also already booked up next years holiday. Got a great deal.
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Loobysue, the company a strong financial position, it's the speculators that are predicting its demise, based on the loss of last year and there has been no other evidence supplied by anyone to support this allegation further. The loss caused the company no debt, and it has significant cash and property assests as mentioned many times on here.
Insurance companies are speculators to and assess risk on the information they have and current events, Globespan was uninsurable last year against faliure for passengers when the chaos of last year was evident, guess what Globespan are still here!! in a much stronger position now and will continue to be so into the future unless the press and other organisation continue to scaremonger as they are currently doing. Its a shame you've become victim to this scaremongering too.
Insurance companies are speculators to and assess risk on the information they have and current events, Globespan was uninsurable last year against faliure for passengers when the chaos of last year was evident, guess what Globespan are still here!! in a much stronger position now and will continue to be so into the future unless the press and other organisation continue to scaremonger as they are currently doing. Its a shame you've become victim to this scaremongering too.
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You hear certain things on the rumour mills and one is that GSM MIGHT be in trouble. But then so MIGHT a lot of other airlines!
However, In this current climate i'm suprised, that you would be suprised if GSM did go under. I don't want to upset employees as it is only rumour, so I will merely quote the facts and not speculate.
- They do not have the best reputation. Watchdog did them no favours to start with!
- They are a fairly small outfit offering low cost travel. Escalating fuel prices will hit the smaller lo-co's before anyone else as profit margins are already squeezed. They are offering a low cost product on basic equipment and there is only a certain amount someone will pay before starting to look at a scheduled carrier.
- They have been desperate to find a market for their canadian route in the southwest. They have tried three airports in Three years. Any loyal customers they made in EXT would have been told to go to BRS for this Summer. Now they will have to move to CWL! If I was a customer, I would be pretty peeved! Previous Zoom customers may be relieved that the route has been picked up, but it is a different product than what they have been used to and is to a different airport and is indirect.
This is not an obituary for GSM but i'm saying that they are likely to be going through the hardest economical time since the airline was started and they are not in as strong a position as your EZY's and FR's in the world of lo-co's.
Lets hope i'm wrong and at the end of the CC you can all call me a ######!
However, In this current climate i'm suprised, that you would be suprised if GSM did go under. I don't want to upset employees as it is only rumour, so I will merely quote the facts and not speculate.
- They do not have the best reputation. Watchdog did them no favours to start with!
- They are a fairly small outfit offering low cost travel. Escalating fuel prices will hit the smaller lo-co's before anyone else as profit margins are already squeezed. They are offering a low cost product on basic equipment and there is only a certain amount someone will pay before starting to look at a scheduled carrier.
- They have been desperate to find a market for their canadian route in the southwest. They have tried three airports in Three years. Any loyal customers they made in EXT would have been told to go to BRS for this Summer. Now they will have to move to CWL! If I was a customer, I would be pretty peeved! Previous Zoom customers may be relieved that the route has been picked up, but it is a different product than what they have been used to and is to a different airport and is indirect.
This is not an obituary for GSM but i'm saying that they are likely to be going through the hardest economical time since the airline was started and they are not in as strong a position as your EZY's and FR's in the world of lo-co's.
Lets hope i'm wrong and at the end of the CC you can all call me a ######!
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Birdscarere - lots of airlines flying around have not so perfect reputations so if that is a prerequisite for going under then we should all be a little scared and two words for you 'hedged fuel'