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I thank you for answering my question on when the MOD contract is going to start.
However l am pretty sure that "FG" the planned a/c to be used will not be available for the start.
This means that a substitute a/c will have to be used, from within or subbed out to someone else.
When does the the India lease finish or has it already?
However l am pretty sure that "FG" the planned a/c to be used will not be available for the start.
This means that a substitute a/c will have to be used, from within or subbed out to someone else.
When does the the India lease finish or has it already?
Does this mean that one 767 will be dedictated to MoD contract work?
Omni International have sometimes suferred from delays not of their own doing with the DC10's.
I would hope that GSM MoD work would not cause further delays with the aircraft "expected" to position elsewhere after BZN to pick up fair paying passengers.
Nivsy
Omni International have sometimes suferred from delays not of their own doing with the DC10's.
I would hope that GSM MoD work would not cause further delays with the aircraft "expected" to position elsewhere after BZN to pick up fair paying passengers.
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Thanks Flightrider
Yes there are heavier B767s but you may have slightly missed the point I was trying to make. My computer limited AUW at Brize to 380,000lb MTOW anyway. I reloaded the obstacle data and it still comes up with the same answer so the increased weights do not apply at this airport it seems. It is an awkward route BZZ- ASI. You might be assigned less than ideal flight levels. Almost as if no-one likes you!
Thanks very much anyway. I have had to edit out some stuff on advice from a colleague.
Thanks very much anyway. I have had to edit out some stuff on advice from a colleague.
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GSM 767s
OUr 3 76s will be used as follows
FG-MOD
OD- Air Calin
PT-AI
They are not required to operate for GSM (as such) we have moved our sched round so that our 75 will operate to SFB .
FG-MOD
OD- Air Calin
PT-AI
They are not required to operate for GSM (as such) we have moved our sched round so that our 75 will operate to SFB .
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Hello,
First time poster but have been following this post for a while.
To refer back to a question asked a while back, anyone know why G-CEJO doesnt have winglets like the rest of the 738's?
Cheers
First time poster but have been following this post for a while.
To refer back to a question asked a while back, anyone know why G-CEJO doesnt have winglets like the rest of the 738's?
Cheers
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Do I detect sour grapes or an air of "Bah! Humbug!" from a couple of posters.
I think the MoD contract will be the mainstay ACMI work for the next couple of years generating stacks of cash, Air India may want 'PT for another 6 months also generating stacks of cash, so when 'OD comes back from Air Calin, if there's no more immediate ACMI, I imagine 'OD will probably operate the 1x weekly SFB service over the winter school holidays & be a spare for any 'hanger time' that 'PT & 'FG may need & be generally available for any ad hocs or ACMI.
'JM will probably fly the majority of SFB's, operate as a reserve aircraft for the 737 fleet while 'OD does the peak period SFB's & be generally available for any ad hocs or ACMI.
Mathy, I've asked our Op's for some Perf figures but I'm not too sure about your 177 Tonne (approx) limit for BZZ. Even so, we could depart at Max ZFM(130 Tonnes) & 5 hours of fuel + Res & tech stop in the Canaries & still be well inside your 177 Tonne limit. Alternatively, 90T Op Weight, 27T Payload (your figures) & 'squeeze' 60T of fuel on- enough for at least 10 hours of flying. I can't see your problem.
I think the MoD contract will be the mainstay ACMI work for the next couple of years generating stacks of cash, Air India may want 'PT for another 6 months also generating stacks of cash, so when 'OD comes back from Air Calin, if there's no more immediate ACMI, I imagine 'OD will probably operate the 1x weekly SFB service over the winter school holidays & be a spare for any 'hanger time' that 'PT & 'FG may need & be generally available for any ad hocs or ACMI.
'JM will probably fly the majority of SFB's, operate as a reserve aircraft for the 737 fleet while 'OD does the peak period SFB's & be generally available for any ad hocs or ACMI.
Mathy, I've asked our Op's for some Perf figures but I'm not too sure about your 177 Tonne (approx) limit for BZZ. Even so, we could depart at Max ZFM(130 Tonnes) & 5 hours of fuel + Res & tech stop in the Canaries & still be well inside your 177 Tonne limit. Alternatively, 90T Op Weight, 27T Payload (your figures) & 'squeeze' 60T of fuel on- enough for at least 10 hours of flying. I can't see your problem.
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I thought i had covered most of that in my precious posts (mabye not as clear)
Did you get your perf?? I Dont recall being asked for anyt but mabye wasnt on shift, please PM me, to caht further.
Globespaner
I thought i had covered most of that in my precious posts (mabye not as clear)
Did you get your perf?? I Dont recall being asked for anyt but mabye wasnt on shift, please PM me, to caht further.
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To refer back to a question asked a while back, anyone know why G-CEJO doesnt have winglets like the rest of the 738's?
Winglets were ready to fit, then the kit was "robbed" to support an AOG. Kit is ready again, just waiting for the aircraft, manpower and hangarslot to come together
Winglets were ready to fit, then the kit was "robbed" to support an AOG. Kit is ready again, just waiting for the aircraft, manpower and hangarslot to come together
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Hello,
First time poster but have been following this post for a while.
To refer back to a question asked a while back, anyone know why G-CEJO doesnt have winglets like the rest of the 738's?
Cheers
First time poster but have been following this post for a while.
To refer back to a question asked a while back, anyone know why G-CEJO doesnt have winglets like the rest of the 738's?
Cheers
JO has no winglets, as I understand they were to be fitted in the UK prior to delievry to GSM. I've been told the winglets are made in the UK hence there would be a saving on export duty to the US. Not sure about the truth in this though.
They only take a couple of hours to fit each side - so not sure why they've not been done. Makes no difference to handling, but does make the -800 climb and cruise better, plus look damn cool when up close on the walk round..
Hope it helps.
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Winglets will need 3 - 4 days to fit on a non-provisioned wing, B737-800.
Once the wing has been provisioned then aprox 6 hours TRT are needed to remove / fit them. JO is a non-provisioned wing
All made by APB in the USA. Recently GKN have started to manufacture parts in the UK though.
Once the wing has been provisioned then aprox 6 hours TRT are needed to remove / fit them. JO is a non-provisioned wing
All made by APB in the USA. Recently GKN have started to manufacture parts in the UK though.
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DAVYDAVY,
Whilst I agree in principle to your most recent comments, your info on the sales of aircraft is totally incorrect!
Where is the confirmation of the two airframes which were sold? One -600 is still up for sale… perhaps that’s what your friend was suggesting?
Rgds
Whilst I agree in principle to your most recent comments, your info on the sales of aircraft is totally incorrect!
Where is the confirmation of the two airframes which were sold? One -600 is still up for sale… perhaps that’s what your friend was suggesting?
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Winglets will need 3 - 4 days to fit on a non-provisioned wing, B737-800.
Once the wing has been provisioned then aprox 6 hours TRT are needed to remove / fit them. JO is a non-provisioned wing
All made by APB in the USA. Recently GKN have started to manufacture parts in the UK though.
Once the wing has been provisioned then aprox 6 hours TRT are needed to remove / fit them. JO is a non-provisioned wing
All made by APB in the USA. Recently GKN have started to manufacture parts in the UK though.
What technically is the difference’s between the non-provisioned and provisioned wings?
Don’t suppose the Boeing guys in EDI will be doing them when they’ve finished with FC?