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One website is done by the airport owner's and the other by someone who is intrested in Manston Airport I think. You may all know that BAA are going on strike soon so I am wondering what airlines plan to use Manston I bet Oasis will come to MSE is there any others? Lets hope they dont do when BA wanted to use MSE 
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Manstonairport.org.uk is run by a chap from T.G.Aviation, totally unrelated to Infratil Airports. Did hear that KIA even picked up some work from the site, perhaps he should be on the pay roll 
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training flight revenue
I'm sure it wasn't too long ago that someone posted on here that it would be better to not open the airport for training flights and to keep ATC at home to cut costs 
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CatFlaps
No they're paid in a combination of share options, flying lessons and if they exceed their targets each week, they get sweeties...
Back to the real world, Manston ATCOs get a very competitive salary, good luck to them.
No they're paid in a combination of share options, flying lessons and if they exceed their targets each week, they get sweeties...
Back to the real world, Manston ATCOs get a very competitive salary, good luck to them.
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Kentescapes / Seguro
I see the websites are back. The Kentescapes website directs you to the Seguro site now, which is in BETA mode itself. At least they have something to direct people to at the open weekend coming up.
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Kent Escapes is a joke ,offering very little ,but less every year,Manston working overtime to promote the air port,it needs a good reliable company behind them.
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Travel agencies expect a commision from each holiday they sell and I suppose Kent Escapes are no different, if they aren't getting a decent cut, they won't headline Manston as the place to fly from.
Alternatively, Manston could do what many other regional airports do and set up their own travel agency, but this costs a fortune in start up and in annual running costs, takes a couple of years before they establish themselves and they have to cope with cut throat competition in the area.
Perhaps Manston will just have to take the plunge and decide which is more cost effective - reduce their own profit margin and pay the travel agent the going rate or set up their own.
Alternatively, Manston could do what many other regional airports do and set up their own travel agency, but this costs a fortune in start up and in annual running costs, takes a couple of years before they establish themselves and they have to cope with cut throat competition in the area.
Perhaps Manston will just have to take the plunge and decide which is more cost effective - reduce their own profit margin and pay the travel agent the going rate or set up their own.
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Manston Websites
For eidfz,catflaps etc,
A few days ago, someone mentioned that pprune was talking about me.
So, I couldn't resist, so I joined.
I am "the chap from TG" who runs the website www.manstonairport.org.uk
I'm not part of anybody's organisation , but as I do a bit of private flying I hang around at TG somewhat.
The website started life purely for information for the private flyer just 18 months ago. Then I started to get "enquiries" and I have been able to pass on a couple which resulted in work. eg, Cargolux and VLM are the obvious.
I got permission from Matt Clarke to add some links for the airport, and that is where we are.
Do I have any more facts than anyone else? Well facts for MSE are like the stuff that comes out the rear end of rocking horses. But.
I had an e-mail conversation with the "charter manager " of VLM on the 28th Dec and at that time he said the Jersey flights are agreed, but contracts were not signed at that point.
As VLM are already involved in regional scheduled flights in UK , I also asked him if they had any interest in flying from Manston to say Dublin. In a word--NO.
Will Kent Escapes survive? Well it is like a shop that is never open. so where will that lead?
Freight is the answer to Manston it is said, and that is the business plan isn't it? Other than a few charters that is it.
A few days ago, someone mentioned that pprune was talking about me.
So, I couldn't resist, so I joined.
I am "the chap from TG" who runs the website www.manstonairport.org.uk
I'm not part of anybody's organisation , but as I do a bit of private flying I hang around at TG somewhat.
The website started life purely for information for the private flyer just 18 months ago. Then I started to get "enquiries" and I have been able to pass on a couple which resulted in work. eg, Cargolux and VLM are the obvious.
I got permission from Matt Clarke to add some links for the airport, and that is where we are.
Do I have any more facts than anyone else? Well facts for MSE are like the stuff that comes out the rear end of rocking horses. But.
I had an e-mail conversation with the "charter manager " of VLM on the 28th Dec and at that time he said the Jersey flights are agreed, but contracts were not signed at that point.
As VLM are already involved in regional scheduled flights in UK , I also asked him if they had any interest in flying from Manston to say Dublin. In a word--NO.
Will Kent Escapes survive? Well it is like a shop that is never open. so where will that lead?
Freight is the answer to Manston it is said, and that is the business plan isn't it? Other than a few charters that is it.
At last!
A sensible post from someone who has actually got off his backside, done some research, spoken to an airline or two and produced a useful website.
A few of the regular posters here could learn from Private Flyer and limit their contributions to information they actually have, or rumours they have actually heard, rather than their constant speculation.
A sensible post from someone who has actually got off his backside, done some research, spoken to an airline or two and produced a useful website.
A few of the regular posters here could learn from Private Flyer and limit their contributions to information they actually have, or rumours they have actually heard, rather than their constant speculation.
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Decision to expand Lydd postponed.
Can't find a Lydd thread anywhere but this may be of interest here. The decision on whether or not Lydd was going to be allowed to expand was to be made on January 31st, this has now been postponed. The planning people apparently need more time and information.
The speculation is that because of the Government's new found fondness for nucleur power, Dungeness is one of the site's being earmarked for a new power station and the close proximity of an expanded Lydd is thought to present a major danger.
The speculation is that because of the Government's new found fondness for nucleur power, Dungeness is one of the site's being earmarked for a new power station and the close proximity of an expanded Lydd is thought to present a major danger.
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Seguro / Kentescapes
The following statement on their currently offline website will cause some of you to choke on your coffee.....
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Due to overwhelming demand for Seguro Holidays 2008 season, we are having to upgrade our servers.
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Due to overwhelming demand for Seguro Holidays 2008 season, we are having to upgrade our servers.
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It was mentioned in a news report on the radio this afternoon. It was being suggested that there is a strong possibility Dungeness could be chosen as the site for one of these new reactors and the delay is as a result of that.
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In common with all nuclear power stations , Dungeness has a two mile radius exclusion zone up to a height of 2000ft. Lydd already comes mighty close to that on it's southern boundary. So as I see it the only possible runway extension is to the North East back towards the built up area.
Hence there is a noise/environmental problem. Why Shepway is short of information on this is puzzling, one can only speculate. (costs money).
The existing reactor (one only operational) is programmed to be used for another ten to fifteen years, so any new build is not relevant, unless it gets any closer to Lydd Airport. (sorry, Ashford International Airport)
Also another constraint to the SW of Lydd is the Danger Area around firing ranges.
Returning to Manston
I see this morning that there is still "an overwhelming demand" at Seguro.
Hence there is a noise/environmental problem. Why Shepway is short of information on this is puzzling, one can only speculate. (costs money).
The existing reactor (one only operational) is programmed to be used for another ten to fifteen years, so any new build is not relevant, unless it gets any closer to Lydd Airport. (sorry, Ashford International Airport)
Also another constraint to the SW of Lydd is the Danger Area around firing ranges.
Returning to Manston
I see this morning that there is still "an overwhelming demand" at Seguro.
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All the stuff appertaining to the application can be found here:
http://www.kentnet.org.uk/laag/index.htm
Sorry to hijack this thread but can't find anywhere else to put it (behave)
http://www.kentnet.org.uk/laag/index.htm
Sorry to hijack this thread but can't find anywhere else to put it (behave)