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AFTER 15 months shadow-boxing, EI management called the bluff of Impact trade union
Interesting article in todays Irish Independent.
Brief extracts below.
Mueller calls Impact's bluff - Irish, Business - Independent.ie
Sunday January 23 2011
AFTER 15 months of shadow-boxing, the management at Aer Lingus finally called the bluff of the Impact trade union last week.
After the four largely wasted years of his predecessor Dermot Mannion, Aer Lingus has in Christoph Mueller a boss in the Willie Walsh mould once again.
Most of us who live and work in the non-cosseted real world would have to conclude that, despite voting to accept the restructuring plan, Impact has been dragging its feet for the past 15 months.
Now Mueller has lost patience with Impact's delaying tactics. He has chosen his time carefully. If you must have an airline strike then the best time from the company's point of view must be the quiet month of January.
Already 170 cabin crew have been taken off the payroll and the airline has hired aircraft to operate large parts of its schedule. Now Aer Lingus is threatening to go one step further and fire its refusniks. With Mueller clearly meaning business, the cabin crew would be well advised to return to work, while they still have jobs to go back to.
Brief extracts below.
Mueller calls Impact's bluff - Irish, Business - Independent.ie
Sunday January 23 2011
AFTER 15 months of shadow-boxing, the management at Aer Lingus finally called the bluff of the Impact trade union last week.
After the four largely wasted years of his predecessor Dermot Mannion, Aer Lingus has in Christoph Mueller a boss in the Willie Walsh mould once again.
Most of us who live and work in the non-cosseted real world would have to conclude that, despite voting to accept the restructuring plan, Impact has been dragging its feet for the past 15 months.
Now Mueller has lost patience with Impact's delaying tactics. He has chosen his time carefully. If you must have an airline strike then the best time from the company's point of view must be the quiet month of January.
Already 170 cabin crew have been taken off the payroll and the airline has hired aircraft to operate large parts of its schedule. Now Aer Lingus is threatening to go one step further and fire its refusniks. With Mueller clearly meaning business, the cabin crew would be well advised to return to work, while they still have jobs to go back to.
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So let me get this right... Cabin Crew are striking cause he wants to increase hours worked per year too 850.
That's 16 hours a week... in these troubled economic times, sack them all. Get new staff on that appreciate having a job. Sorry in this insenses some. But I easily work treble their hours!
That's 16 hours a week... in these troubled economic times, sack them all. Get new staff on that appreciate having a job. Sorry in this insenses some. But I easily work treble their hours!
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The cabin crew are not on strike. They are coming to work as they have been for the last 3 months. I'm sure the schedule was busier in Nov/Dec than it is now,and the work to rule was happening then. Working to your contract is permitted under Irish law.
The only time the travelling public were disrupted was when the mgmt of EI changes their tactics. EI have cancelled flights over the last few days even though there are cabin crew in uniform ready and able to work those flights.
EI have deliberately imposed hardship on their passengers just to try to direct anger at their cabin crew.
There were crew members of the correct rank available in Dublin last Monday but EI went and cancelled the DUB-BOS flight rather than switch their roster. And that apology from Mueller was 4 days late for the customer,that should have been in Mondays papers.
The cabin crew have increased their productivity by 13% in the last year, they have taken a pay cut, a pay freeze for 2 more years, they have reduced rest time between flights, they have reduced numbers on the longhaul flights and taken reduced holiday time. So for EI mgmt to claim they are not going through with the Greenfield plan is disingenuous. All staff in EI have taken similar cuts, indeed the only outstanding part of the Greenfield plan is the proposed 40% reduction in middle mgmt.
The cabin crew are in dispute as the company have imposed additional changes on top of those agreed and accepted by the cabin crew under the Greenfield plan. These additional changes do not affect actual productivity but do cause problems for the cabin crew having any form of stability.
How does taking away the ability to request a 1 weekend in 8 off or removing the ability to show a preference for early/late shifts actually increase productivity?
The LRC advised the retention of the cabin crew book of rules while EI last week actually scrapped it.
The Greenfield plan does allow for extra changes but these are to be reviewed and decided upon by the LRC under the binding arbitration, however EI have skipped the review and gone straight to the extra changes. If extra changes are needed the cabin crew will accept them but only if the mutually agreed process is followed.
Why are the union willing to ask for the Labour Court to mediate, EI don’t want to talk to the Labour Court. Perhaps they are not confident that their position will be vindicated?
Looking at another site a poster pointed out the EI keep going on about the 850 Block Hours being the only thing they want. He pointed out that this comes to either 4 or 2 additional block hours needed each month. (Current average hours are 810 or 830 depending on who you side with)
Why not just make each crew member do a extra shift every month. Problem solved.
This dispute is not about the 850 block hours. It is about EI reneging on their deal of March 2010 and imposing minimum FTLs on their cabin crew when the LRC arbitration specifically states that FTLs are not the answer in this case.
The only time the travelling public were disrupted was when the mgmt of EI changes their tactics. EI have cancelled flights over the last few days even though there are cabin crew in uniform ready and able to work those flights.
EI have deliberately imposed hardship on their passengers just to try to direct anger at their cabin crew.
There were crew members of the correct rank available in Dublin last Monday but EI went and cancelled the DUB-BOS flight rather than switch their roster. And that apology from Mueller was 4 days late for the customer,that should have been in Mondays papers.
The cabin crew have increased their productivity by 13% in the last year, they have taken a pay cut, a pay freeze for 2 more years, they have reduced rest time between flights, they have reduced numbers on the longhaul flights and taken reduced holiday time. So for EI mgmt to claim they are not going through with the Greenfield plan is disingenuous. All staff in EI have taken similar cuts, indeed the only outstanding part of the Greenfield plan is the proposed 40% reduction in middle mgmt.
The cabin crew are in dispute as the company have imposed additional changes on top of those agreed and accepted by the cabin crew under the Greenfield plan. These additional changes do not affect actual productivity but do cause problems for the cabin crew having any form of stability.
How does taking away the ability to request a 1 weekend in 8 off or removing the ability to show a preference for early/late shifts actually increase productivity?
The LRC advised the retention of the cabin crew book of rules while EI last week actually scrapped it.
The Greenfield plan does allow for extra changes but these are to be reviewed and decided upon by the LRC under the binding arbitration, however EI have skipped the review and gone straight to the extra changes. If extra changes are needed the cabin crew will accept them but only if the mutually agreed process is followed.
Why are the union willing to ask for the Labour Court to mediate, EI don’t want to talk to the Labour Court. Perhaps they are not confident that their position will be vindicated?
Looking at another site a poster pointed out the EI keep going on about the 850 Block Hours being the only thing they want. He pointed out that this comes to either 4 or 2 additional block hours needed each month. (Current average hours are 810 or 830 depending on who you side with)
Why not just make each crew member do a extra shift every month. Problem solved.
This dispute is not about the 850 block hours. It is about EI reneging on their deal of March 2010 and imposing minimum FTLs on their cabin crew when the LRC arbitration specifically states that FTLs are not the answer in this case.
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Pal of mine in EI DUB has just told me that the pilots issued strike notice to begin on 31 January. Funny it's not in the news ...... although there's enough going on in the news in Ireland to not bring it to the fore front yet. Anyone heard anything about this
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Aer Lingus Rip Off
I'm flying from AGP to DUB to-morrow and I know it will cost more than if I had booked it some weeks ago.
But comparing fares charged by Lingus and Ryanair greatly surprised me.
Lingus charge 248 Euro and Ryanair 119 Euro.
In both cases all taxes included.
And in the present climate I am more certain Ryanair will get me to DUB.
Rip Off Aer Lingus is alive and well.
But comparing fares charged by Lingus and Ryanair greatly surprised me.
Lingus charge 248 Euro and Ryanair 119 Euro.
In both cases all taxes included.
And in the present climate I am more certain Ryanair will get me to DUB.
Rip Off Aer Lingus is alive and well.
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To counter that heidelberg, I was looking at booking a friend onto the same flight as myself early next month. STN-DUB with Ryanair were ~£90 return including fee's while Aer Lingus LHR-DUB were ~£70 return including fee's for similar times on the same days. You can still get good value on Aer Lingus too. 
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Furthermore, I've booked flights back to Belfast in April. As I live in west London I looked at Aer Lingus and flights for two were £130. However, with Easyjet, the flights were £100 from Gatwick. But you have two £30 return fairs on the Gatwick express to contend with. Ryanair was in the region of £140 without taking in transit costs to Stansted. So don't slate Aer Lingus too quickly. Wish they would serve Derry though!
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But you have two £30 return fairs on the Gatwick express to contend with
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LH cheaper than EI or FR!
I recently flew Dub-Fra-Dub with Lufthansa. I cant remember the exact online fares quoted, but LH were actually cheaper than EI or FR. This really surprised me....I was'nt even going to have a look at their website, but I will from now on!
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But you have two £30 return fairs on the Gatwick express to contend with
When I travel to London say at weekend's I never choose Stansted as on each occasion that I did the Stansted Express was closed. Gatwick is good choice for me.
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To-day Tue 25th Jan Monarch used an A321 for the
Shamrock DUB - AGP - DUB. (EI 582/583).
I was on the return leg.
Only 60/70 pax.
Counted 13 EI a/c parked at DUB.
This dispute cannot continue - all sides will lose out the longer it goes on; it's always the case.
Shamrock DUB - AGP - DUB. (EI 582/583).
I was on the return leg.
Only 60/70 pax.
Counted 13 EI a/c parked at DUB.
This dispute cannot continue - all sides will lose out the longer it goes on; it's always the case.
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When a flight isn't appearing, there are two possibilities
1) The flight has been cancelled
2) The flight is full
What's likely to have happened is that some flights have been cancelled and the others have filled up.
I was trying to book on this evening's Amsterdam-Cork flight, but couldn't because it was cancelled. But then the one tomorrow morning isn't showing up and doesn't appear to be cancelled, just full with people from this evening's flight.
Eventually, I'm booked on the flight tomorrow evening, so fingers crossed!
1) The flight has been cancelled
2) The flight is full
What's likely to have happened is that some flights have been cancelled and the others have filled up.
I was trying to book on this evening's Amsterdam-Cork flight, but couldn't because it was cancelled. But then the one tomorrow morning isn't showing up and doesn't appear to be cancelled, just full with people from this evening's flight.
Eventually, I'm booked on the flight tomorrow evening, so fingers crossed!
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MAN DUB FR increasing to 6 daily.
If I read this right Ryanair are increasing Manchester Dublin to 6 daily, is this in an attempt to drive Aer Lingus off the route and replace the service with Aer Lingus Regional? Ryanair must be content that this would happen and that ultimately they will have a bigger slice of the market between the 2 cities.
Perhaps it part of the plan to expose Aer Arann as they are about to embark on DUB ABZ and DUB BRS. Or is Aer Arann (EIRegional) making inroads on routes like DUB EDI?
Seems strange to me that FR would want to do 6 daily on this route.
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Perhaps it part of the plan to expose Aer Arann as they are about to embark on DUB ABZ and DUB BRS. Or is Aer Arann (EIRegional) making inroads on routes like DUB EDI?
Seems strange to me that FR would want to do 6 daily on this route.
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Seems strange to me that FR would want to do 6 daily on this route.
Then Aer Lingus got some respite when Ryanair fell out with MAN and cut frequencies. But now Ryanair is trying to reclaim a market share it used to have a couple of years ago...
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Until 2 weeks ago Ryanair had 5 daily flights between DUB - MAN on Fridays and Sundays. 4 daily flights on Saturdays and Mondays. 3 daily every other day.
Fri and Sun were with 4 daily to Liverpool. So there would be a market for 6 daily to man but Liverpool may be reduced as a result.
Fri and Sun were with 4 daily to Liverpool. So there would be a market for 6 daily to man but Liverpool may be reduced as a result.
