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Old 10th Jan 2011, 11:55
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Weather had a massive impact on EI figures for December. 25% drop

Aer Lingus sees 25% drop in December traffic - Newstalk.ie
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 15:43
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I do wish EI would stop advertising hot food on their regional operations....Frustrating to think you can at least catch up on a bite to eat on an early morning flight to find there's peanuts... or a chicken sandwich if you sit no further back than row 7
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Seems stupid for Aer Lingus Regional to operate from T1 with mainline at T2, especially when they are promoting the onward connections to the United States.
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 12:33
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T2

Here we are nearly mid January 2011, and no apparent movements at T2
Anyone got any idea whats happening?
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 12:37
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LHR moved today
LGW nest tuesday
All other European Routes the following Tuesday
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 15:40
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Could this have something to do with it being operarted by Aer Arann who operate the rest of their flights from T1?

This may cause some issues if as has happened recently the non-usualy ATR-72's such as EI-REI, EI-REH, EI-SLN, EI-SLL are required to be used for Air Lingus Regional flights at short notice for technical reasons.

I would imagine a logistical nightmare for the planners unless all Aer Arann/Aer Lingus Regional ops move to T2
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It may also be that the ATR 72 can't use the airbridges at Pier E in T2 as I think all gates have airbridges in Pier E.
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I would imagine that all modern airport developments would allow for embarking/disembarking for non airbridge aircraft via the airbridge steps similar to that at BHX. Or even a ground floor entrance to the terminal .

Even CWL allows for aircraft that cannot use the airbridge to disembark on the stands and be walked directly into the terminal.
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 16:05
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As Pier E has only parking for 19 a/c. Some Aer Lingus passengers will check-in in T2 but depart for Pier A, B or C in T!. Early mornings will be very busy at Pier E as about 7 gates will be required for US and Middle East flights and the others will be for Aer Lingus A320, A321.
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 17:11
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I was on the understanding that EI would use only T2 (pier E) and Pier B and not Pier A or Pier D. That said as for EI Regional no one seems to know where they're going to operate. Perhaps EI regional pax will check in at T2 but then be bussed over to Pier A???? it's not a long walk between check in at T2 and Pier A - 10 minutes max I'm told. My hope for EI is that EI Regional will be able to use remote stands at T2. Are there any remote stands at T2 does anyone know?
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 12:11
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Has there been any more word on Aer Lingus rejoining One World or any other alliance?

Also, when it gains it's new A330's and A350's, do we know where they plan to expand to and from?
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 18:54
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The A330 has being deferred until 2013.

THe A350 are due in 2015.
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 21:46
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I still have serious doubts as to whether EI will ever get A350s; the order is a legacy from the Dermot Mannion days and virtually everything else from that era has been unwound; the A350 was ordered in a time when there were little or no fears for the economy. Now, there is a completely new reality. Even if the A350 does join the fleet, it won't allow any route expansion, as it's about 20-25% bigger (in capacity terms) than the A333.

My bet/hope is that EI will be able to find a lessor to take on the A350s and it can then move to a more suitable aircraft.
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 22:28
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I think EI will use about 3 or 4 out of the 6 A350's. Some of the A330 will be quiet old by 2015 and will probaly be replaced by A350. I don't know how many are due in 2015 but I know it won't be all 6. It would say it would only be 2 in 2015 and the rest in 2016.
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 22:31
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akerosid,

As always I enjoy your opinions, but can you explain the last line about 'moving to a more suitable aircraft'?

Since the A330 has been in operation for 17 years now with EI, I would have thought by this stage that they could get the very best out of the aircraft and probably learnt a thing or 2 about it over the years.

On the other aircraft idea, theres Boeing
747 - too big
777 - very expensive
767 - been there, done that, Old and slow technology
757 - 200ER for thinner routes? Works for American, Delta and Continenal, why not EI?
787 - Will it ever make it?

Then there is the cost base for training pilots, crew, engineering with Boeing all over again, so in reality I cant see that happening.

Again, I have said it but can never see it happening is the development of the A321 on thinner routes.

So what else except the A330?
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 22:59
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Think of it this way.

It would be better for EI to use a A350 on a daily DUB - JFK flight insted of using an A330 twice daily. It would same a lot of money for EI.
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Sorry Airbourne, when I said "move to a more suitable aircraft", I meant the A350, not the A330, and I agree with you wholeheartedly that the A330 is a fantastic aircraft - and an EXTREMELY hard act to follow. For EI, it is pretty much the perfect aircraft and it would take a hell of a good aircraft to replace it; I just think the 350 is too big for EI. It might be fine for the existing routes, but it doesn't allow much growth potential.

As a 330 replacement, when that time comes (which is way down the road), I was thinking more along the lines of the 788/789. Thankfully, with the 330 fleet being quite young (apart from 'ORD), it probably isn't something they have to worry about that soon.
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Old 13th Jan 2011, 10:29
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I think we have to remember that 2015 is a long way of yet. I would say with the correct marketing in the likes of Edinburgh, Glasgow, Vilinus, and seasonally in Helsinki, Aer Lingus could get the load factors up on routes like New York, Chicago and else where state side.

Just as Finnair is doing going east. Aer Lingus opportunity really lies in small Eastern European countries which have no link to the States.

I also think Air Traffic should have majorly recovered by then, as our Banks get themselves back in order.

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Old 13th Jan 2011, 11:37
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2 flights to JFK

It would be better for EI to use a A350 on a daily DUB - JFK flight insted of using an A330 twice daily. It would same a lot of money for EI.
But the 2 flights a day, which are 6 hrs or so apart, facilitates a massive number of transfer passengers which EI are actively chasing.
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Old 13th Jan 2011, 12:37
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There's no question, that the twice daily DUB-JFK-DUB route is profitable, and has always been that way for EI. I was thinking the A350 with it's low cost base & fuel saving winglets, SFO & LAX could re-configure on the destination map, also it may hopefully tie in with a live register figure around the 200,000 mark and annual GDP growth.
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