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Old 11th Jan 2011, 17:11
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I was on the understanding that EI would use only T2 (pier E) and Pier B and not Pier A or Pier D. That said as for EI Regional no one seems to know where they're going to operate. Perhaps EI regional pax will check in at T2 but then be bussed over to Pier A???? it's not a long walk between check in at T2 and Pier A - 10 minutes max I'm told. My hope for EI is that EI Regional will be able to use remote stands at T2. Are there any remote stands at T2 does anyone know?
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 12:11
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Has there been any more word on Aer Lingus rejoining One World or any other alliance?

Also, when it gains it's new A330's and A350's, do we know where they plan to expand to and from?
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 18:54
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The A330 has being deferred until 2013.

THe A350 are due in 2015.
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 21:46
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I still have serious doubts as to whether EI will ever get A350s; the order is a legacy from the Dermot Mannion days and virtually everything else from that era has been unwound; the A350 was ordered in a time when there were little or no fears for the economy. Now, there is a completely new reality. Even if the A350 does join the fleet, it won't allow any route expansion, as it's about 20-25% bigger (in capacity terms) than the A333.

My bet/hope is that EI will be able to find a lessor to take on the A350s and it can then move to a more suitable aircraft.
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 22:28
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I think EI will use about 3 or 4 out of the 6 A350's. Some of the A330 will be quiet old by 2015 and will probaly be replaced by A350. I don't know how many are due in 2015 but I know it won't be all 6. It would say it would only be 2 in 2015 and the rest in 2016.
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 22:31
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akerosid,

As always I enjoy your opinions, but can you explain the last line about 'moving to a more suitable aircraft'?

Since the A330 has been in operation for 17 years now with EI, I would have thought by this stage that they could get the very best out of the aircraft and probably learnt a thing or 2 about it over the years.

On the other aircraft idea, theres Boeing
747 - too big
777 - very expensive
767 - been there, done that, Old and slow technology
757 - 200ER for thinner routes? Works for American, Delta and Continenal, why not EI?
787 - Will it ever make it?

Then there is the cost base for training pilots, crew, engineering with Boeing all over again, so in reality I cant see that happening.

Again, I have said it but can never see it happening is the development of the A321 on thinner routes.

So what else except the A330?
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 22:59
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Think of it this way.

It would be better for EI to use a A350 on a daily DUB - JFK flight insted of using an A330 twice daily. It would same a lot of money for EI.
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Old 13th Jan 2011, 06:15
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Sorry Airbourne, when I said "move to a more suitable aircraft", I meant the A350, not the A330, and I agree with you wholeheartedly that the A330 is a fantastic aircraft - and an EXTREMELY hard act to follow. For EI, it is pretty much the perfect aircraft and it would take a hell of a good aircraft to replace it; I just think the 350 is too big for EI. It might be fine for the existing routes, but it doesn't allow much growth potential.

As a 330 replacement, when that time comes (which is way down the road), I was thinking more along the lines of the 788/789. Thankfully, with the 330 fleet being quite young (apart from 'ORD), it probably isn't something they have to worry about that soon.
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Old 13th Jan 2011, 10:29
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I think we have to remember that 2015 is a long way of yet. I would say with the correct marketing in the likes of Edinburgh, Glasgow, Vilinus, and seasonally in Helsinki, Aer Lingus could get the load factors up on routes like New York, Chicago and else where state side.

Just as Finnair is doing going east. Aer Lingus opportunity really lies in small Eastern European countries which have no link to the States.

I also think Air Traffic should have majorly recovered by then, as our Banks get themselves back in order.

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Old 13th Jan 2011, 11:37
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2 flights to JFK

It would be better for EI to use a A350 on a daily DUB - JFK flight insted of using an A330 twice daily. It would same a lot of money for EI.
But the 2 flights a day, which are 6 hrs or so apart, facilitates a massive number of transfer passengers which EI are actively chasing.
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Old 13th Jan 2011, 12:37
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There's no question, that the twice daily DUB-JFK-DUB route is profitable, and has always been that way for EI. I was thinking the A350 with it's low cost base & fuel saving winglets, SFO & LAX could re-configure on the destination map, also it may hopefully tie in with a live register figure around the 200,000 mark and annual GDP growth.
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Old 13th Jan 2011, 19:29
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I would say with the correct marketing in the likes of Edinburgh, Glasgow, Vilinus, and seasonally in Helsinki, Aer Lingus could get the load factors up on routes like New York, Chicago and else where state side.

Northern Counties, you are right on this one, though to be fair to EI they saw a 50% increase in transfer passengers going to US at Dublin over the summer months, maybe in some part due to Aer Lingus Regional and I note that in NewYork there was quite a bit of marketing of Dublin as a connection point. This increase in transfer passengers may be a reason why fortunes at the airline have been on the up and up this year!

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Old 13th Jan 2011, 22:20
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Ryanair have gone back 3 daily on the DUB - BRS route from end of March. It's bound to put pressure on Aer Lingus.
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Old 14th Jan 2011, 15:59
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Aer Lingus to strike again - maybe!

RTE reports - Aer Lingus faces the possibility of industrial action next week after the airline threatens to remove cabin crew employees from the payroll if they fail to comply with new rosters being introduced on Monday.
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Old 14th Jan 2011, 18:20
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There's no question, that the twice daily DUB-JFK-DUB route is profitable, and has always been that way for EI. I was thinking the A350 with it's low cost base & fuel saving winglets, SFO & LAX could re-configure on the destination map, also it may hopefully tie in with a live register figure around the 200,000 mark and annual GDP growth.
SFO & LAX? In my opinion, there's no way that both of these airports will be served simultaneously any time in the near future, unless there were VERY limited frequencies to both - which really defeats the purpose. However, from a cost base perspective, the volumes would have to be EXTREMELY buoyant for such a move.

RTE reports - Aer Lingus faces the possibility of industrial action next week after the airline threatens to remove cabin crew employees from the payroll if they fail to comply with new rosters being introduced on Monday.
Sadly, certain sections of Management appear absolutely intent on provoking disruption on this occasion. Their approach throughout these past several months could be described at times as bordering on contempt.

Yes, there are two sides to every situation but this is now going beyond all reasonable expectations. Cabin Crew are continually being singled out for further cost reduction demands. The current level of dispute all emanates quite simply from EI Management's selective interpretation of the LRC findings during 2010. In the normal course of employment, its not general practice to CONTINUALLY attempt to re-write employee contracts.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see disruption begin next week - there can be no positive outcome in the current situation, unless something changes rapidly.

It's a terrible situation and is wholly unnecessary - I'm at a loss to understand management logic - damage of the brand, potential disruption to services, loss of consumer confidence, alienation of a significant and very important frontline workforce grouping. Cabin Crew understand more than any group the need for cost consolidation. But they have given and further agreed HUGE cuts and efficiency improvements over the past 3 years - far greater than those demanded of their colleagues in other departments.

The unnecessary saga continues...

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Old 17th Jan 2011, 10:32
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Aer Arann and Aer Lingus launch new route from Edinburgh to Shannon

17 January 2011


Summer 2011 Schedule Also Announced

(Monday, 17th January 2011) Aer Arann and Aer Lingus today announced details of a new direct route to Shannon from Edinburgh in the latest phase of the franchise agreement between the two airlines. Also announced were details of the Shannon Summer 2011 schedule that will see the number of weekly Aer Lingus Regional departures from Shannon increase by 36% compared to last year.

From Sunday, 27th March, Aer Lingus Regional, operated by Aer Arann, will provide flights to Shannon from Edinburgh in addition to the current Manchester, Birmingham, Bristol and Glasgow services. Flights to Edinburgh will operate five days per week with fares starting at €29.99 one way including taxes. Flights go on sale today, Monday, 17th January and are available for booking on Aer Lingus- cheap flights, gift vouchers, hotels, car hire, & travel insurance.
Shannon’s Aer Lingus Regional Summer 2011 schedule, also beginning on 27th March, will include additional flights to Manchester on Tuesday and Wednesday mornings. The Birmingham service will operate daily on a business-friendly slot, while the Shannon to Glasgow route will operate three times per week.

Speaking at the launch in Shannon Airport today, Aer Arann Chief Executive, Paul Schütz said, “Combined with the recently launched Glasgow route, the addition of our new Shannon-Edinburgh service demonstrates the continued success of our franchise agreement with Aer Lingus. This new service further improves the direct links between Scotland and Ireland for both business and leisure passengers and working with Aer Lingus, we look forward to continuing to provide our customers with a quality service, ensuring excellent value and frequency.”
Also commenting on the announcement, Declan Kearney, Director of Communications, Aer Lingus said: “Aer Lingus are delighted to introduce this new service in conjunction with Aer Arann. This is the fifth Aer Lingus Regional route launched from Shannon since our partnership with Aer Arann began in April of last year. We look forward to welcoming customers onboard the Edinburgh service in March.”

Shannon Airport Director Mary Considine said that the establishment of the Shannon-Edinburgh route is a major boost for the Airport and region. “We are delighted with today’s announcement by Aer Lingus Regional. Edinburgh is an extremely attractive route and we are extremely confident that, with the full support of marketing agencies both here and in Scotland, it will be a major addition to our services at Shannon and another success for the Aer Lingus/Aer Arann franchise.”

Under the franchise agreement between the two airlines Aer Lingus Regional flights are operated by Aer Arann using its own ATR 72-500 aircraft and crew. All franchise flights are sold and distributed through Aer Lingus- cheap flights, gift vouchers, hotels, car hire, & travel insurance.
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 20:51
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From RTE.ie 18/01/2011

Aer Lingus was forced to cancel a number of flights today as the dispute over cabin crew rosters escalated.

Around 50 cabin crew were instructed to attend individual meetings with management after refusing to work new rosters introduced yesterday by management without union agreement.

Staff say the rosters exceeded existing agreements and an arbitration, and would impose undue hardship.

The airline has confirmed that 32 cabin crew members have been removed from the payroll and that 86 cabin crew members have refused to operate the new schedules so far.

Staff union IMPACT says they were prepared to work their conditions of employment as were in place on the old rosters.

As a result of the dispute, the EI 125 to Chicago and EI 104 from New York to Dublin were cancelled, while two other routes - EI 105 to New York and EI 594 and EI 595 to and from Madrid - operated with planes hired in from other companies.

The airline has announced that the following flights will be cancelled tomorrow:

EI 650 and EI 651 to and from Frankfurt
EI582 and EI 583 to and from Malaga
EI 594 and EI595 to and from Madrid
EI 606 and EI 607 to and from Amsterdam
EI 176 and EI 177 to and from London Heathrow

Further cancellations cannot be ruled out and passengers are advised to check the Aer Lingus website for further updates.


Aer Lingus insists it is entitled to introduce the new rosters under the terms of the Greenfield cost reduction plan, which 93% of cabin crew accepted in a ballot.


In a statement Aer Lingus said: 'The sole responsibility for these cancellations, and the corresponding disruption to customers travel plans, lies with IMPACT trade union members who continue to take industrial action despite 15 months of negotiation, agreement, clarification, conciliation and binding arbitration.'


They say every other grade has fully implemented Greenfield reforms.
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 22:12
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a hard few days ahead for all those that i know at EI, good luck guys. Am wishing you all the best.
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 23:10
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Don't know a huge amount about the crew problems at EI but there is plenty of people who have no jobs who would jump at the chance to work under the Aer Lingus crew agreement and the cabin crew should be glad to have a job not and get back to work.
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 23:39
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What an incredibly naive view of the world Jamie. So your immediate reaction to high unemployment in Ireland would be to throw your contracted terms aside and blindly capitulate to whatever your employer asked of you?? The agreements that cabin crew entered into were not signed in balmy celtic tiger years, they were signed in the full force of the recessionary storm, and as such, both parties were well aware of what the prevailing market conditions were. The cabin crew are working to their contracts. No more, no less. And I wouldn't expect to go to work on a regular basis for over eight hours and not get time for a sandwich, honestly,would you?
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