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Old 20th Oct 2008, 19:49
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Guernsey runway

I understand lack of E195 at Guernsey is because of runway problems. Guernsey government must of let it go because I can recall LH operating German flights through Guernsey and on to Jersey, with a 737 - 500 series I think, about a decade ago.
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Old 21st Oct 2008, 07:28
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I believe your second sentence is spot on, Fred.

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Old 21st Oct 2008, 12:50
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Nice to see some journo has decided to embelish Mike Rutter's press release with an incorrect number of seats on the 195. Flight International are rather prone to getting this number wrong too every single time they mention the 195.

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Old 21st Oct 2008, 14:34
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Not some journo this time!

“We had hoped to continue offering our Guernsey passengers a continued jet aircraft service with our new 112-seat state of the art Embraer 195 that, with its comfortable 2x2 seat configuration, has proved so popular on several of our other key routes. However, this has proved not to be.”
Looks like a direct quotation from Mike Rutter. It is an extract from the Flybe website!! Anyway, whats a few seats amongst friends - unless you haven't got one
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Old 22nd Oct 2008, 13:40
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PR Agency typo rather than journo; I suspect Mike Rutter knows how many seats the 195 has...
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Old 24th Oct 2008, 15:18
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On a recent BE flight, my 9 year old daughter had her McDonald's Happy Meal subjected to an inspection and subsequentconfiscation by a member of crew.

Comments?
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Old 24th Oct 2008, 15:40
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hopefully that isnt a complaint. mc donalds food is awful. they were doing the child a favour !
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Old 24th Oct 2008, 15:43
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You don't mention whether it was a member of flight deck or cabin crew. Our crew food is not of the highest quality, perhaps they were hungry and were curious if McDonalds happy meal was equally as crap as our crew food.

I'd hope it was the Captain that performed the inspection, as (s)he is ultmately responsible for the safety of all on board, and usually has first dibs at the crew food.

This isn't the Flybe customer relations website Actually, not noticed a McD's airside at a Flybe destination. Where were you?
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Old 24th Oct 2008, 15:50
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Where's my dinner ?

Obviously the the "Unhappy Meal" contravened the rules of the ANO and represented a clear and present threat as a cooked improvised eating device, to the safety of the aircraft and its occupants. Beef/Chicken/Veg Burger & slice of lettuce, onion, tomato and wait for it, relish - Tut, Tut, represented a highly combustable combination. PS the cabin crew were obviously hungry. How to put a child and regular passenger off travelling with a carrier for good. Sad, stupid and just offensive. Perhaps the carrier is scrimping on cleaning during turnarounds..

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Old 24th Oct 2008, 17:11
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Vuelo,

Where abouts did this happen? Check in, security, at the gate or on the aircraft?
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Old 24th Oct 2008, 17:19
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Good on the crew - frequently airlines will ask people not to consume items onboard unless it was purchased onboard as they cannot guarantee that other pasengers dont suffer from an alergy - for example nuts (altough not neccesarily with this case)

I would not want my flight stinking of McDonalds food!
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Old 24th Oct 2008, 17:56
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frequently airlines will ask people not to consume items onboard unless it was purchased onboard as they cannot guarantee that other pasengers dont suffer from an alergy - for example nuts (altough not neccesarily with this case)
What planet are you from? They BAR people bringing their own food on board so they can flog a captive audience overpriced crap. Taking a wee boy or girl's meal from them is entirely symptomatic of the ATTITUDE problem that some airlines have to the SLF they have to endure. ( as they see it )

I don't care if someone's eating McD's next to me if I'm flying flybe. Might do if I was flying BA but flybe? All seems a bit bullying by fussy people in dayglo yellow to me. God I hate some airlines. Money grabbing petty minded freaks that keep treating us like dirt.

How dare you look down your nose at people who eat McDonalds. Not everyone on your flight is as rich as you are matey.
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Old 24th Oct 2008, 19:50
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The flybe cabin crew probably made it out to be a safety concern ie - allergys, when really they are badly paid themselves and don't even have 2D to eat pizza off a floor. People at the minute think flybe are bad enough between emergency landings, delays which last hours, and high fares for didley squat low cost service. So if they had to land a plane because a child ate a burger when they told it not to, they would lose a hell of a lot more passengers and the press would be in dreamland. (For once the press would keep their noses away from BA!)

I think there is a McDonalds in the Gatwick North terminal but its before security. But how the girl managed to get a burger through security, through waiting ages in a departure lounge, to still be hot after the plane took off is totally beyond me. I can't even drive to a McDonalds around the corner from me and drive back with my burger not cold when I get back. Maybe I should try bringing one through an airport!
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Old 24th Oct 2008, 20:59
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Skipnes One Echo - For god sake wind your neck in before you burst a blood vessel.

I work for the flippin company and I am trying to tell you the reason why the crew would have asked for the McDonalds to have been disposed of. You may find it strange but your statement is not only ignorant of many other airlines policies but damn right incorrect. If you had an alergy to something, and I am going to go off topic slightly and use nuts as an example (as it is fairly common) would you want someone sitting next to you eating them as you departed into the big blue sky? I think not.

I sincerely hope you do not fly Flybe if you find them that bad. And for the record I have eaten McDonalds before and I am not rich 'matey' as you suggest. You may hate airlines like this and quite honestly they probably hate you.

I would not want to be sat next to a McDonalds happy meal regardless of what airline I was travelling with. If you want to eat a McDonalds - eat it in the terminal in the comfort of the McDonalds restaurant and not onboard an aircraft in a confined space.

Wingo Wango - That did make me chuckle
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Old 24th Oct 2008, 21:10
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BHDFLYER, although BE have had issues with delays, I havent recieved any info regarding emergency landings, yes a few return to ramps but the delays are coming down.

Would I be right in assuming that you are SLF? Also regarding CC pay, it isn't the worst wage to receive might I add. In terms of diddly squat, the crews do work hard to look after punters!!!
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Old 24th Oct 2008, 21:34
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The flybe cabin crew probably made it out to be a safety concern ie - allergys, when really they are badly paid themselves and don't even have 2D to eat pizza off a floor.
that's the funniest thing have read in a long long time.

2D!!!

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Old 24th Oct 2008, 22:18
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No emergency landings?

What about that BHD/MAN flight not so long ago which had passengers traumatised when the cabin filled with smoke and there was a strange noise coming from the aircraft? (It was an E195 if I remember rightly?)
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Old 24th Oct 2008, 22:59
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Just out of morbid curiosity, what would a typical crew meal consist of onboard?

I've never seen any type of cooker or hob appliance onboard BE, so I assume they just eat cold cuts/salad?
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Old 25th Oct 2008, 01:35
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Skipness One Echo:
I don't care if someone's eating McD's next to me if I'm flying flybe. Might do if I was flying BA but flybe?
Could you sound more pompous? I know not the facts - perhaps the CC felt they were acting in accordance with the Part A or SEPs, it's not often a Happy Meal is taken aboard a flight after all. Discretion is the better part of valour, maybe the right decison, maybe not. Your crucification of the airline on the back of this example is completely unnecessary. (What if it was on a Flybe/BA codeshare?!)

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People at the minute think flybe are bad enough between emergency landings........
What did you expect them to do with smoke in the cabin? Could have happened to any operator, anywhere, any time. Your other arguments might have some weight with clarification, that one, no way.

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Old 25th Oct 2008, 05:57
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Wingo Wango is correct. Sensitive trim calculations and remember the after effects could present a problem for the cabin as well as the airline's carbon footprint
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