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BA A320 at LGW
Just noticed that BA have a 162 seater A320 operating flights ex LGW tomorrow and Wednesday.
On Tuesday it is due to operate
BA2936/BA2937/BA2940/BA2941/BA2588/BA2589
LGW/EDI/LGW/EDI/LGW/VCE/LGW
On Wednesday it is due to operate
BA2362/BA2363/BA2960/BA2961/BA8039/BA8040
LGW/MRS/LGW/GLA/LGW/JER/LGW
Does anyone know if this is to cover a A319/734 that is tech or is this a permenant thing?. Are the cabin crew at LGW A320 trained?.
Thanks in advance for anymore info.
On Tuesday it is due to operate
BA2936/BA2937/BA2940/BA2941/BA2588/BA2589
LGW/EDI/LGW/EDI/LGW/VCE/LGW
On Wednesday it is due to operate
BA2362/BA2363/BA2960/BA2961/BA8039/BA8040
LGW/MRS/LGW/GLA/LGW/JER/LGW
Does anyone know if this is to cover a A319/734 that is tech or is this a permenant thing?. Are the cabin crew at LGW A320 trained?.
Thanks in advance for anymore info.
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Temporary for the strike period.
LGW a bit short of a/c due to summer schedule and a couple of 734s out of service, so making use of some 'spare' 320s at LHR.
Also gives a little extra capacity (162 seats vs 147 on the 73) on flights which have been very busy due to the strike.
Most CC are 737/777/Airbus rated as a dual short haul fleet was the long term plan a few years back...!
LGW a bit short of a/c due to summer schedule and a couple of 734s out of service, so making use of some 'spare' 320s at LHR.
Also gives a little extra capacity (162 seats vs 147 on the 73) on flights which have been very busy due to the strike.
Most CC are 737/777/Airbus rated as a dual short haul fleet was the long term plan a few years back...!
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What is the BA strike all about?
A bit late in the day perhaps - my excuse is that I'm a layman, not in the business - but I've finally found an article (blog entry actually) that seems to get to the nub of the ongoing strike at BA.
BA Cabin Crew and Staff Travel
Basically it says that all the two sides have left to argue about is loss of seniority in the staff travel system, a hole that Willy quite intentionally dug for the strikers, but has come back to bite him because it's too deep for the strikers to get back out of. Do you agree, or is this a glib oversimplification?
They've also got an entry about how we're all going to be suffering higher airfares this summer as a result of the strike here:
BA Strike is Hitting all Air Passengers
which was depressing for the punter...
BA Cabin Crew and Staff Travel
Basically it says that all the two sides have left to argue about is loss of seniority in the staff travel system, a hole that Willy quite intentionally dug for the strikers, but has come back to bite him because it's too deep for the strikers to get back out of. Do you agree, or is this a glib oversimplification?
They've also got an entry about how we're all going to be suffering higher airfares this summer as a result of the strike here:
BA Strike is Hitting all Air Passengers
which was depressing for the punter...
If those who are actually still striking were dismissed, what impact would it have on the airline's schedules ? How much rearranging would have to be done ?
Yes I know it's not illegal to strike, but likewise it's also not actually illegal to dismiss who you like. Sure they can take you to the tribunal, and you can go there and say you would never have them back, and they get an enhanced settlement, but what would be the overall actual costs of this ? Quite a few would melt away along the road anyway. Likewise what would be the impact on airline costs and revenues of the period ahead while new crew are recruited and trained ? It's not as if there's a shortage of good candidates at the moment.
Yes I know it's not illegal to strike, but likewise it's also not actually illegal to dismiss who you like. Sure they can take you to the tribunal, and you can go there and say you would never have them back, and they get an enhanced settlement, but what would be the overall actual costs of this ? Quite a few would melt away along the road anyway. Likewise what would be the impact on airline costs and revenues of the period ahead while new crew are recruited and trained ? It's not as if there's a shortage of good candidates at the moment.
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I believe the older 777's will soon be fitted out with the very latest "Thales" inflight entertainment which will also be fitted to the new B777-300's due soon, this will be AVOD plus extra features including interactive chat rooms etc
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Quite a few BA 777's don't have AVOD, as their entertainment systems weren't able to be converted. These were the 1st of the GE engined models.
I believe the older 777's will soon be fitted out with the very latest "Thales" inflight entertainment which will also be fitted to the new B777-300's due soon, this will be AVOD plus extra features including interactive chat rooms etc
G-VIIA-N, G-ZZZA-C and G-RAES.
It is thought, but yet to be confirmed that the system will be fitted when the aircraft are fitted with the new F seats.
The new 773ER's will be fitted with a new World Traveller and World Traveller Plus seat. I am sure whether the GMIS 772's will also be fitted with these seats when they are fitted with the new F
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I just got off one of the newer A320's (G-EUYF) and noticed a slightly different interior. All in all very pleasant BUT are those seats (I was in traveller) the new standard for the BA Airbus fleet? They looked to be those slimline type seats and the thing that really annoyed me is the fact that they can't recline anymore and that the seatback is way too upright. Combined with that annoying headrest it's become a really unpleasant experience. 
Positive sides were the spaciousness feel, brightness, cleanliness and seatpitch. Anyone else any thoughts.
Positive sides were the spaciousness feel, brightness, cleanliness and seatpitch. Anyone else any thoughts.
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I am glad the seat recline has gone. It is completely unnecessary on this seat pitch for the majority of BAs short haul network. Very annoying when people abruptly recline as soon as the seatbelt signs go off or if you have your table down and it thrusts forward into you.
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Nope, I disagree. After a long day at work, I need 40 winks flying back and the company won't pay for Club. Yet another backward step from BA.
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Backward Steps...
Christ, we'll be flying around in DC3s next!
Is losing the seat recline that big a deal? All it seems to do is make one person slightly more comfortable, whilst making the person behind significantly more uncomfortable.
I'm sure if you asked passengers whether their seat reclines, I'm sure the vast majority would not care. BA would have run their cabin through tests, using passenger groups to assess comfort etc. If it had been a big deal I'm sure it wouldn't have even got past the planning stage.
Only 4 flying around with it at the mo: G-EUYF/G/H/I, with the remaining 5 being delivered over the next 18 months or so. Out of over 100 short haul aircraft in service the chances of you getting the new cabin is fairly unlikely... phew.
Is losing the seat recline that big a deal? All it seems to do is make one person slightly more comfortable, whilst making the person behind significantly more uncomfortable.
I'm sure if you asked passengers whether their seat reclines, I'm sure the vast majority would not care. BA would have run their cabin through tests, using passenger groups to assess comfort etc. If it had been a big deal I'm sure it wouldn't have even got past the planning stage.
Only 4 flying around with it at the mo: G-EUYF/G/H/I, with the remaining 5 being delivered over the next 18 months or so. Out of over 100 short haul aircraft in service the chances of you getting the new cabin is fairly unlikely... phew.
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Well, I find it a big deal. No problem if the standard seatback position wasn't so upright. There's more than enough pitch and if the guy infront had reclined fully it would not have made a difference to me at all. I can understand the problem with the table but if we're all sensible you make sure you don't recline (or have it set already) when the service approaches and same afterwards. Just common sense. I never use more than half anyway.
If you're up-and down the country/Europe often then it will become a big deal. It's such a simple feature that makes a big difference in comfort. Something you expect to have when you travel with a legacy carrier.
The other cabin enhancements were top notch by the way. So it's not all bad...
If you're up-and down the country/Europe often then it will become a big deal. It's such a simple feature that makes a big difference in comfort. Something you expect to have when you travel with a legacy carrier.
The other cabin enhancements were top notch by the way. So it's not all bad...
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BA's shareholder magazine "Overview" (Issue 44 June 2010) have announced they have signed a contract with the US-based Solena Group to establish a plant in east London to produce fuel from waste that would otherwise be destined for landfill.
They claim that the biofuel produced by the £179 million plant that will produce 16 million gallons of biofuel annually from 2014 will offer greenhouse gas savings of up to 95 per cent.
They say that the production will fulfil twice their total needs for their aircraaft operating out of the nearby LCY and create 1,200 jobs.
This project will work to their advantage in their next advertisement campaign!
They claim that the biofuel produced by the £179 million plant that will produce 16 million gallons of biofuel annually from 2014 will offer greenhouse gas savings of up to 95 per cent.
They say that the production will fulfil twice their total needs for their aircraaft operating out of the nearby LCY and create 1,200 jobs.
This project will work to their advantage in their next advertisement campaign!
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produce fuel from waste that would otherwise be destined for landfill.
They also don't announce (see article in Flight 2 months ago) that this is only 2pc of the BA fuel consumption.
Yes I think its a good idea to run a pilot plant like this, but don't lets get carried away by the pr talk.
In my local town (Uppsala) we split the waste. All compostable waste goes to one plant where they extract the methane gas, and use it to run the local buses. The rest is burnt in an incinerator to produce electricity and hot water.
BAs system takes this methane, and heats it to 5000 deg C to process it into fuel. They use a lot of rubbish to produce the Jet A1.
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So the powers that be have said that there will be no expansion above London's skies within the next parliament so what does it look like for BA expansion?
WW did say MAD would be expanded which would obviously suggest moving South American flights to the MAD hub and probably operating larger aircraft on LHR-MAD.
However, how would they look to expand in other areas? Would they have to look at expanding again at MAN?!
Or they can just wait 5 years for Milliband and co. to take office and hope they make an educated economic decision to expand in London.
WW did say MAD would be expanded which would obviously suggest moving South American flights to the MAD hub and probably operating larger aircraft on LHR-MAD.
However, how would they look to expand in other areas? Would they have to look at expanding again at MAN?!
Or they can just wait 5 years for Milliband and co. to take office and hope they make an educated economic decision to expand in London.
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I think we'll see BA looking to expand at LCY both in terms of the BACF operation and more mainline routes such as chicago, boston, and washington.
well, that's what I conclude from the following!
BA ready to expand in North America | ABTN
well, that's what I conclude from the following!
BA ready to expand in North America | ABTN
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With due respect I fail to see how you come to that conclusion, many airlines including BA will be reducing services more likely for the forseeable future and at best at least 3 years, if you look at the finance pages?