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I don't think your avarage NE punter would grasp US low cost airlines for onward bookings, what happens it J2 were late in to NYC? Missed flights on low cost = dumped! In fact missed flights on any stand alone booking the other end would = dumped!!
I am sorry but for me its got to be CO and EWR, if not CO then another US major to a hub. J2 should look to GSM's experiences out of LPL last year!
10D
I don't think your avarage NE punter would grasp US low cost airlines for onward bookings, what happens it J2 were late in to NYC? Missed flights on low cost = dumped! In fact missed flights on any stand alone booking the other end would = dumped!!
I am sorry but for me its got to be CO and EWR, if not CO then another US major to a hub. J2 should look to GSM's experiences out of LPL last year!
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I might as well put my two penneth in and say that since J2 are developing their own package holidays. And say that NYC is out of the question unless they use it to drop people off and carry on to Orlando with the bucket and spade brigade
Or they will just do Orlando and use Bangor as a refuelling point
Or they will just do Orlando and use Bangor as a refuelling point
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A charter style flight to SFB or MCO could possibly work with Jet2, though with a stop in BGR or similar would this not put people off considering direct flights, for reasonable prices are available? NCL, a good few years ago, used to have more flights than we do currently to SFB/MCO with the likes of AIH, BY, AMM, LEI all operating flights. The S08 frequency will stand at 2 per week, but with the aircraft used there are a fair few seats available. What J2 are planning with their long haul is anyones guess, another long haul route from NCL would be great for the airport - certainly the rumours of the number of bookings on the TOM PUJ/CUN services are very positive. However, I stand by my opinion that a NYC service by a loco would be short lived from a regional station, and the incessant rumour of EK is a definate non starter.
Does anyone know why TCX are no longer selling the MON POP and CUN flight? Is it now non-op? If so we have lost POP!?!
Does anyone know why TCX are no longer selling the MON POP and CUN flight? Is it now non-op? If so we have lost POP!?!
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LS are to get 762/3s according to their end of financial year report a couple of months ago. It was also mentioned in Airliner World.
A CO/DL/AA 752 service to EWR/JFK is definately what is needed and a SFB based 763 flying MAN,LBA,NCL and EDI for LS would work very well too.
I wouldn't be surprised if LS received their 762/3s and place them on short haul from MAN and LBA this summer on the bus routes to PMI/AGP/ALC/FAO etc. and then launch long haul during the winter.
A CO/DL/AA 752 service to EWR/JFK is definately what is needed and a SFB based 763 flying MAN,LBA,NCL and EDI for LS would work very well too.
I wouldn't be surprised if LS received their 762/3s and place them on short haul from MAN and LBA this summer on the bus routes to PMI/AGP/ALC/FAO etc. and then launch long haul during the winter.
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and the incessant rumour of EK is a definate non starter.
Conversely the above scenario does nothing to support that LS or any other carrier relying on point to point only 'Y' revenue would fare any better than GSM out of LPL EVEN if GSM had sorted their reliability & image issues.
Whatever transpires over the next few years I can not see any NCL - US operation being a success that does not aim to derive what benefit that may be available from an onwards connection to the gulf region.
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New York, New York - not again! Let's give it a rest! My view is that the US economy is in no state to support airline expansion to what they might consider "small" regional airports like NCL, where half the catchment area is sea. I think NCL has done tremendously well to attract Emirates, which reflects the region's business community's current focus on the Middle East, India, China, Australia and South Africa - all well-served by EK. Next priority should be a 2x or 3x daily LH connection to FRA or MUC, which would dent the KL/AF monopoly on decent connections to most of Europe.
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New York codeshares?
I think someone is dreaming if they believe codeshares to New York / US from DXB via NCL would work. Why would anyone want to transit through NCL? Is it the lure of a Greggs pasty or the litter embedded in the fences?
Seriously - NCL does not have airside international transit facilities, nor does it have a transfer baggage system. It is designed for point to point traffic. Having to collect bags, clear customs and checkin or drop bags again isn't a compelling passenger proposition.
Why would someone want to transfer through NCL when there are direct flights with EK from the US to DXB and each European network carrier can offer same carrier connections through their hubs?
CB
Seriously - NCL does not have airside international transit facilities, nor does it have a transfer baggage system. It is designed for point to point traffic. Having to collect bags, clear customs and checkin or drop bags again isn't a compelling passenger proposition.
Why would someone want to transfer through NCL when there are direct flights with EK from the US to DXB and each European network carrier can offer same carrier connections through their hubs?
CB
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Just how many people fly easyjet down to STN then connect to an onward flight using EZY,FR,AB etc????
im sure hundreds do this every month so if pax can do it in the uk then im sure that they can do this in the US also.
PAX arent that thick!
Just how many people fly easyjet down to STN then connect to an onward flight using EZY,FR,AB etc????
im sure hundreds do this every month so if pax can do it in the uk then im sure that they can do this in the US also.
PAX arent that thick!
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Let's be honest. Emirates is a world class airline. Is operating long transatlantic services from the US into Dubai, via an airport with no airside flight connections facility and a low yielding, mainly leisure home market sound like it's consistent with their business model. GET REAL !
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Flying into Stansted is one thing, booking a loco connection or even full service onward ticket through a US gateway is high risk. Numerous times on arrival you can have significant delays through customs and immigration clearance, bag retrieval etc and that would destroy your itinerary and cost you a fortune in a jiffy.
Most of the premium travellers are on business and can't afford to run those risks and without a connection through a hub and a single ticket I doubt many would entretain it.
Most of the premium travellers are on business and can't afford to run those risks and without a connection through a hub and a single ticket I doubt many would entretain it.
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in any event, how many people are actually transferring through stansted?? Seeing as there is only 2 easyjet flights some days at the moment, I would guess the answer is not many.
has the copenhagen timetable changed again? seems to be two flights a day only sometimes during the summer
and has the early morning brussels flight gone for good now?
has the copenhagen timetable changed again? seems to be two flights a day only sometimes during the summer
and has the early morning brussels flight gone for good now?
Quote "and has the early morning brussels flight gone for good now?"
I hope not, because the current situation is a major pain - we are sending loads of people on Eurostar as using BA via LHR is so unreliable (although the trains ain't perfect...).
Mike Rutter from flybe did say when talking about new routes "as well as extending services to places like Brussels." Did BE take over any remnant of the SN/BA codeshare from the BACON deal?
I hope not, because the current situation is a major pain - we are sending loads of people on Eurostar as using BA via LHR is so unreliable (although the trains ain't perfect...).
Mike Rutter from flybe did say when talking about new routes "as well as extending services to places like Brussels." Did BE take over any remnant of the SN/BA codeshare from the BACON deal?
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Early morning flight -------Looks like it has gone, it was bookable until recently for the summer no more though. BE do a codeshare on whats left.
Dont think it will survive long on once daily.
Perhaps BE may do something with it. Although they did take it over when Sabena went bust and then dropped it because SN Brussels also came on the route and BE lost out.
Dont think it will survive long on once daily.
Perhaps BE may do something with it. Although they did take it over when Sabena went bust and then dropped it because SN Brussels also came on the route and BE lost out.
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A few years ago Proctor and Gamble used to prop this route up because they had offices in the area. They did it using a block booking agreement with SN for x tickets on each flight whether they used them or not.
Perhaps this deal has come to an end. It is a dangerous game relying on a specific companies business as a reason to run a business route.
CB
Perhaps this deal has come to an end. It is a dangerous game relying on a specific companies business as a reason to run a business route.
CB