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Looks like EZY are having a bit of a nightmare day today - 3 of the 6 running over an hour late this afternoon (and a 4th half hour late!)
EZY6473 16:25 ROME - CIAMPINO CHECK-IN 01-04 DELAYED 18:15
EZY6409 16:40 MALAGA CHECK-IN 03-04 DELAYED 18:05
EZY567 17:00 BRISTOL CHECK-IN 01-05 DELAYED 17:30
EZY6495 17:40 PRAGUE CHECK-IN 01-06 DELAYED 18:45
Not pointing the finger at them, every airline has days like this! KLM seem to be regularly having days like this recently!
EZY6473 16:25 ROME - CIAMPINO CHECK-IN 01-04 DELAYED 18:15
EZY6409 16:40 MALAGA CHECK-IN 03-04 DELAYED 18:05
EZY567 17:00 BRISTOL CHECK-IN 01-05 DELAYED 17:30
EZY6495 17:40 PRAGUE CHECK-IN 01-06 DELAYED 18:45
Not pointing the finger at them, every airline has days like this! KLM seem to be regularly having days like this recently!
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757: Such painless flights took me completely by surprise! A bit worried by the comment about KLM time-keeping but that's not till December. Next trip is my first with Emirates. I hope the comments a while ago on leaving baggage behind isn't too accurate as it will never catch me up.
What is the take-up of car park spaces? ie if they halved the rates would they be able to get more than twice as many cars using it as now and hence more income plus happier punters?
What is the take-up of car park spaces? ie if they halved the rates would they be able to get more than twice as many cars using it as now and hence more income plus happier punters?
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Sorry just had to choose an airline to include in that bit and just happened to pick KLM 
The 1537 into Durham tonight is due over an hour late - and this has happened a few times since the Fokker 100's took over this flight for the summer - with the Fokker 70's everything runs perfectly to time (usually) 
The quicker they get rid of the 100's the better it would seem!
The 1537 into Durham tonight is due over an hour late - and this has happened a few times since the Fokker 100's took over this flight for the summer - with the Fokker 70's everything runs perfectly to time (usually) The quicker they get rid of the 100's the better it would seem!
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BBC NEWS | England | Tyne | Airport development plan unveiled
Intresting times ahead, reading the attached article.
At least we can expect to see some new expansion for the airport in the near future, and I would anticipate a big increase in biz jet movements. Possibly based aircraft!!
Good to hear EK still doing well!!
Shame about the doors in the terminal
Intresting times ahead, reading the attached article.
At least we can expect to see some new expansion for the airport in the near future, and I would anticipate a big increase in biz jet movements. Possibly based aircraft!!
Good to hear EK still doing well!!
Shame about the doors in the terminal
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we hope to be able to refurbish the original terminal building and restore it to its former 1930s glory. Our hope is to turn it into a new visitor centre with an outdoor viewing area overlooking the airfield.
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Cumon Skyman this is not Cape Cannaveral, its a regional airport. Many airports especially in the US have great facilities for the non aviation public.
All that you need is someone who 1.can be bothered and 2.Doesn't treat an airport like some secret facility where you turn up,do what your told and then GET OUT. I looked at a run down villa next to the runway at Malaga on Sunday and thought if you did it up, supplied just basic facilities and catering you would make a bomb. And so could Newcastle airport.
People will always migrate to airports and aircraft, you can either encourage it and hopefully encourage aviation enthusiasm or ignore it and have safety exits crammed full of cars trying to sneak a look. In Las Vegas they even have a dedicated layby on a road litteraly next to the runway purely for enthusiasts and people seeing off their relatives. Hell the approach frequency can be picked up on FM and is advertised as so.
Bravo Newcastle if it comes off and Viva Las Vegas.
All that you need is someone who 1.can be bothered and 2.Doesn't treat an airport like some secret facility where you turn up,do what your told and then GET OUT. I looked at a run down villa next to the runway at Malaga on Sunday and thought if you did it up, supplied just basic facilities and catering you would make a bomb. And so could Newcastle airport.
People will always migrate to airports and aircraft, you can either encourage it and hopefully encourage aviation enthusiasm or ignore it and have safety exits crammed full of cars trying to sneak a look. In Las Vegas they even have a dedicated layby on a road litteraly next to the runway purely for enthusiasts and people seeing off their relatives. Hell the approach frequency can be picked up on FM and is advertised as so.
Bravo Newcastle if it comes off and Viva Las Vegas.
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Re the Southside and Ops Guy's comments "and I would anticipate a big increase in biz jet movements. Possibly based aircraft!!"
DL says "Our aim is to transform the airport into one of the country's foremost bases for private aircraft owners."
So the NE business community and richer private individuals are going to invest in business jets are they?
Planet zog again.....
...and as for those arrival doors. They worked well for the exterior entrances as they stopped the old gales that used to blow through the terminal when they had an 'air lock' system (meant the ticket desks did not need paper weights to hold their coupons down) but were never going to work for the arrival halls. The guy at the time, Grant Riddick - Ops Director, thought they were the bees knees and was deaf to any 'anti' at the time, hence years of being a frustration for arriving passengers.
....and why is NCL just about the only airport I ever arrive at where there is still someone 'presenting' the passengers to HMI or Border Control or whatever they call themselves these days?
Rant over, time for first coffee of the day....
DL says "Our aim is to transform the airport into one of the country's foremost bases for private aircraft owners."
So the NE business community and richer private individuals are going to invest in business jets are they?
Planet zog again.....
...and as for those arrival doors. They worked well for the exterior entrances as they stopped the old gales that used to blow through the terminal when they had an 'air lock' system (meant the ticket desks did not need paper weights to hold their coupons down) but were never going to work for the arrival halls. The guy at the time, Grant Riddick - Ops Director, thought they were the bees knees and was deaf to any 'anti' at the time, hence years of being a frustration for arriving passengers.
....and why is NCL just about the only airport I ever arrive at where there is still someone 'presenting' the passengers to HMI or Border Control or whatever they call themselves these days?
Rant over, time for first coffee of the day....
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Bizjets are the one big area that benefit from terrorism and rising fuel costs, so yes NE business and "rich people" probably will benefit from more Bizjets.
And lets hope more busines people and rich people decide to come here and give us their business. Keeps us in jobs.
ps even Honda make a light biz jet now, and shortly Toyota. Such is the demand for ultra light biz jets. What happens in America..............
And lets hope more busines people and rich people decide to come here and give us their business. Keeps us in jobs.
ps even Honda make a light biz jet now, and shortly Toyota. Such is the demand for ultra light biz jets. What happens in America..............
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Couldn't have put it better myself !
Tonker I feel that you to may be on the way to 'Planet zog' if you honestly believe that any technological development in Bizz, Light Jets or whatever is going to have any bearing on inward North East investment. As extrapolation is clearly one basis used in your arguments then perhaps you should consider that many years ago NCL had 2 based corporate jets & now... none? (even considering SAGE's use of a Lear). The type of 'richer private individuals', using your terminology, that you refer to simply don't reside in the North East in any great number.
I also don't see that any such volume of these 'richer private individuals' coming here has much bearing on my observations re any South Side facilities other than endorse my earlier point concerning 'Reggies'.
Your comments regarding LAS are also irrelevant and pointless other than to state the obvious that any layby adjacent to a very busy runway at any large airport in the world attracts punters. Though again what has this to do with any development at NCL isolated effectively away from busy roads and a not so busy runway at a regional airport is beyond me !
So the NE business community and richer private individuals are going to invest in business jets are they?
Planet zog again.....
Planet zog again.....
Tonker I feel that you to may be on the way to 'Planet zog' if you honestly believe that any technological development in Bizz, Light Jets or whatever is going to have any bearing on inward North East investment. As extrapolation is clearly one basis used in your arguments then perhaps you should consider that many years ago NCL had 2 based corporate jets & now... none? (even considering SAGE's use of a Lear). The type of 'richer private individuals', using your terminology, that you refer to simply don't reside in the North East in any great number.
I also don't see that any such volume of these 'richer private individuals' coming here has much bearing on my observations re any South Side facilities other than endorse my earlier point concerning 'Reggies'.
Your comments regarding LAS are also irrelevant and pointless other than to state the obvious that any layby adjacent to a very busy runway at any large airport in the world attracts punters. Though again what has this to do with any development at NCL isolated effectively away from busy roads and a not so busy runway at a regional airport is beyond me !
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Just becuase there were two bizjets operators that went bust does not mean there isn't a need for at least one now. Maybe they were simply no good, operated the wrong type of aircaft, or were overpriced.
Anyway got to go work. Will look out of my window at A1 at people pearing through hedges, illegaly parked or on verges, crammed into crash barriers and exits. As we start to motor i can look over at Wings(usually hard to see for the Netjets aircaft) and think.
"NOTHING TO SEE HERE"
Blinkered inward thinking nonesense. If you ever wonder why things get done elsewhere, its because people have the balls and vision to get on with it. WE used to be able to do that here once. Keep living in your sterile little world, and let others try and make something of the place. Jobs depend on it.
As for richer type indiviuals not existing in the north east!!!!!!! Have you ever been in to Ponteland or the Wynyard estate????? Some people will never see anything other than what they and their blinkered view of it exists.
Keep banging that
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Anyway got to go work. Will look out of my window at A1 at people pearing through hedges, illegaly parked or on verges, crammed into crash barriers and exits. As we start to motor i can look over at Wings(usually hard to see for the Netjets aircaft) and think.
"NOTHING TO SEE HERE"
Blinkered inward thinking nonesense. If you ever wonder why things get done elsewhere, its because people have the balls and vision to get on with it. WE used to be able to do that here once. Keep living in your sterile little world, and let others try and make something of the place. Jobs depend on it.
As for richer type indiviuals not existing in the north east!!!!!!! Have you ever been in to Ponteland or the Wynyard estate????? Some people will never see anything other than what they and their blinkered view of it exists.
Keep banging that
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There may be a decent number of high net worth individuals in the North East but there certainly are not enough to justify anyform of major boom in business jet operations.
NetJets etc all use their aircraft well in large metropolis' in the USA and Europe but the volume of PAX in those locations and potential fractional owners is in another stratosphere compared to the North East.
The airport is struggling (and failing) to maintain it's existing low cost network due to rising fuel costs and excessive inflation. Any form of expansion will be modest to say the very least, any other ideas are frankly nuts.
This has nothing to do with vision or balls just economics.
IMHO it would be worth the airport focusing on improvements for the masses not the ultra small minority and that starts and ends with the customer experience and route network. Spotters locations should be the very last thing on their agenda.
NetJets etc all use their aircraft well in large metropolis' in the USA and Europe but the volume of PAX in those locations and potential fractional owners is in another stratosphere compared to the North East.
The airport is struggling (and failing) to maintain it's existing low cost network due to rising fuel costs and excessive inflation. Any form of expansion will be modest to say the very least, any other ideas are frankly nuts.
This has nothing to do with vision or balls just economics.
IMHO it would be worth the airport focusing on improvements for the masses not the ultra small minority and that starts and ends with the customer experience and route network. Spotters locations should be the very last thing on their agenda.
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Put it this way. let's do everything to encourage more bizjet flying from Newcastle(which i agree won't be a major hub). Lets get as many kids and people to the airport as reasonably possible and encourage aviation. Take a look at Multiflight Leeds on a weekend.
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I agree, however, until the passenger experience is fixed and acceptable the focus shouldn't be on spotters or a weekend experience.
Aviation today is struggling and the VLJ market is dormant to say the least. NetJets don't operate a single aircraft that is truly VLJ and the likes of Honda and Toyota developing them is a decade away at least, they have no track record and it is highly debatable if they will ever occur.
The airport should be encouraged to sort out parking, those bloody doors, apathetic service agents for one or two airlines, keeping the existing route network intact and stop being transfixed by getting a service to NYC !
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Aviation today is struggling and the VLJ market is dormant to say the least. NetJets don't operate a single aircraft that is truly VLJ and the likes of Honda and Toyota developing them is a decade away at least, they have no track record and it is highly debatable if they will ever occur.
The airport should be encouraged to sort out parking, those bloody doors, apathetic service agents for one or two airlines, keeping the existing route network intact and stop being transfixed by getting a service to NYC !
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Perhaps Tonker I do live in such an area & perhaps also that I know quite a few of these quite normal people that you term 'richer private individuals'. Indeed as YOU say 'Some people will never see anything other than what they and their blinkered view of it exists'. Maybe if you had done a little better with your own life then you would not be resorting to "looking out of my window at A1 at people pearing through hedges, illegaly parked or on verges, crammed into crash barriers and exits." and demonstrates quite clearly who has the blinkered view! PS hope the number of Netjets don't prove too difficult to count, &
Really are you certain ?
As for richer type indiviuals not existing in the north east!!!!!!! Have you ever been in to Ponteland or the Wynyard estate????? Some people will never see anything other than what they and their blinkered view of it exists.
Just becuase there were two bizjets operators that went bust
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Folks is all this discussion around bizjets not getting rather insulting, I and probably other folks on here get a bit sick of the endless mud slinging that certain individuals posting on here appear to revel in
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Any improvements made have got to be worth while. Samson works well and if it can be improved great. The spend on a viewing facility should be minimal, it actually already exists , these people will have taken into account profitability, security, access etc so lets welcome it, not slag it off. Lets try and keep it aviation related and not personal, everyone has their own opinion.
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groundhand I too would like to know why HM Border Control insist that both Swissport and Servisair present passengers at immigration?! I have never seen it when travelling through other worldwide airports, only NCL and I know it is a pain for the GHA's to provide staff for these duties - particularly if an arrival is detained for whatever reason, as the GHA effectively looses a member of staff for the duration. Anyone know the reason then please share.
On the business front, why not? It is entirely possible that NCL could increase the level of exec movements, though I am sceptical over what the airport is hoping for? Re-generation of the southside is excellent for all concerned, I am particularly interested in the soon to be opened aviation academy. Leeds has a similar academy, which provides a range of courses from PSA/CC to engineering, which provides employers with better trained potential staff. It would be great to see this vast range of courses offered at NCL academy, including the existing engineering side of courses. Don't Newcastle College offer airline related courses, which could be relocated? I see the academy expanding again soon!
Regarding andrewmcharltons comments over the airport struggling to cope with maintaining route network, in some ways his comment is true, so any expansion is a good thing - particularly in market and trading conditions of aviation today!
On the business front, why not? It is entirely possible that NCL could increase the level of exec movements, though I am sceptical over what the airport is hoping for? Re-generation of the southside is excellent for all concerned, I am particularly interested in the soon to be opened aviation academy. Leeds has a similar academy, which provides a range of courses from PSA/CC to engineering, which provides employers with better trained potential staff. It would be great to see this vast range of courses offered at NCL academy, including the existing engineering side of courses. Don't Newcastle College offer airline related courses, which could be relocated? I see the academy expanding again soon!
Regarding andrewmcharltons comments over the airport struggling to cope with maintaining route network, in some ways his comment is true, so any expansion is a good thing - particularly in market and trading conditions of aviation today!