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Old 20th May 2008, 05:53
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I think he is playing the game, very well! while FR charge surcharges such as PB and WC, other airlines are sticking a massive fuel surcharge on. Yes its not traditional air travel, but the industry is far from its traditional days im afraid.
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Exactly. Flew with BA recently - massive fuel surcharge over which I had no choice. Ryanair, I can choose if I want/need to pay for various services, or not. Other than family/carer groups who HAVE to sit together (and even then, I question why more than one adult needs to look after one or two of their own children on a short flight), why this sudden obsession with getting on the plane first? Everyone is guaranteed a seat, most FR flights are on average 1-2hrs, so shouldn't matter if you are separated from companions for a while and disembarkation of most pax is normally all over within 10 mins of doors open anyway. People are paying £8 for privilege of being out of airport about 5 mins ahead of the rest of us who have no luggage but don't bother with priority boarding normally. And they run away from the plane as though there is a rocket behind them.... Nobody is THAT short of time.
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I think he is playing the game, very well! while FR charge surcharges such as PB and WC, other airlines are sticking a massive fuel surcharge on.
Fuel surcharges are normally only applied by companies operating long haul flights. Ryanair are a shorthaul airline, so you could argue that their individual charges for this and that are the equivalent of such i.e Stealth Tax. I don't agree with fuel surcharges anyway by the way. These are a requirement by the customer to pay, so as such I think the cost should be absorbed and applied to the advertised price of the ticket.
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Old 20th May 2008, 18:07
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Ryanair code share ???

Can anyone tell me why Ryanair has a code share with Vladivostok Air
on the STN-HHN flights ?

Is this a way into Russia for Ryanair ?

Having looked at Vlodivostok air website I see they have just started flights to HHN from Moscow and there route map shows London.

All this might be TOP SECRET Has the cat been let out of the bag !
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Old 20th May 2008, 18:29
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.... and Milan Bergamo, Rome Ciampino, Barcelona Gerona as well as Madrid.
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Old 20th May 2008, 18:48
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http://www.vladavia.ru/en/passengers...8-04-15-00573/

Hi daz,

thanks for a very interesting post, just looked up that site. Knew v little of this airline, but detect they are A320 operators! I wasnt able to see any availability for any of the Ryanair routes. However the link above shows an explanation of the opportunity to link into Ryanairs network around Europe via Hahn.
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Here is the code share I came across.
FrankfurtFR 752 Ryanair7:15 AM 7:25 AM Scheduled
FrankfurtXF 752^ Vladivostok Air7:15 AM 7:25 AM Scheduled

Flight: (XF) Vladivostok Air 752 Operated by (FR) Ryanair 752

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EI-BUD

If you follow the LINK you posted then click on the LINK halfway down
the page, select HHN as departure Airport, you are then able to see the Ryanair destinations, the only problem is when trying to book, all flights are shown as sold out, well the ones I tried anyway.

The funny thing is they let you select business class.

Maybe this is in the very early stages, but something to keep an eye on
at least .
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Old 20th May 2008, 20:18
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With a "priority boarding", you are sure to have a window seat; I hate to fly "blind", without seeing what happens, and I love to see the landscape below, when in flight. This is why I shall pay to be amongst the first lot of passengers to embark.
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Fuel surcharges are normally only applied by companies operating long haul flights. Ryanair are a shorthaul airline, so you could argue that their individual charges for this and that are the equivalent of such i.e Stealth Tax. I don't agree with fuel surcharges anyway by the way. These are a requirement by the customer to pay, so as such I think the cost should be absorbed and applied to the advertised price of the ticket.
In the case of British Airways, the surcharge is included in the fare you see on the booking screen, and always has been.

The only reason I can see for specifying the fuel surcharge as an additional element of the fare, rather than simply including it in the fare itself, is that passengers redeeming Executive Club Miles have to pay the surcharge in addition to all the other 3rd party taxes and charges. It makes using Executive Club Miles almost a pointless exercise, as there is now very little saving to be made.

But at least British Airways is upfront about their various charges, and offer a proper level of customer care and assistance in case of problems. I would always choose BA over Ryanair, and have done so for many years. Choice of airline should never be based solely on cost.

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Old 21st May 2008, 15:06
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No, it should depend on where you want to go to and from, and I'm afraid I don't see BA offering us flights from UK regions, so looks like it's FR or EZY for the rest of us!
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"With oil at $125 (a barrel) ... we certainly won't make a lot of money," O'Leary told reporters. "I don't think we will lose money."

"If yields (average ticket prices) fall by 5 percent this year and I think the oil price rises above $135 a barrel, then we would be at break even," he said.

"Oil is really hurting us now"


http://uk.reuters.com/article/tnBasi...89832420080521
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With a "priority boarding", you are sure to have a window seat; I hate to fly "blind", without seeing what happens, and I love to see the landscape below, when in flight. This is why I shall pay to be amongst the first lot of passengers to embark.

What happens if more people pay for priority boarding than there are windows?
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Old 22nd May 2008, 10:18
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What happens if more people pay for priority boarding than there are windows?
Make sure you're one of the first 63 people in the queue.
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What happens if more people pay for priority boarding than there are windows?
According to Ryanair only 40% of the aircraft's capacity is sold as "priority boarding" approx 75 seats.
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Old 22nd May 2008, 21:01
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Oil $135

With oil at $125 (a barrel) ... we certainly won't make a lot of money," O'Leary told reporters. "I don't think we will lose money."

"If yields (average ticket prices) fall by 5 percent this year and I think the oil price rises above $135 a barrel, then we would be at break even," he said.

"Oil is really hurting us now"

http://uk.reuters.com/article/tnBasi...89832420080521

Well thats today! has reached $135.00 if it stays that way or continues to rise it could be a bad year for FR financially, but they will ride the storm no doubt! just financial results will not be as good as expected I would suggest?
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Old 23rd May 2008, 09:42
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When is this to be announced for?
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What happens if more people pay for priority boarding than there are windows?

Not all people with priority boarding want to have a window : there are couples, families, parties who just want to be together on the same row;
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Old 23rd May 2008, 13:00
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I'm one of those annoying people who legs it to the gate as soon as it is announced to be first (or thereabouts) in the queue, and again from gate to plane, to ensure I get an exit row seat by the window over the wing. Loads of other people seem to do this as well, but in the main, they are generally not rushing for the exit row but to be near the front of the plane, or to sit together. Now that priority boarding will be charged for, I'll have to weigh up my options... either pay it (and pretty much double my flight costs) or take a risk. I wonder how many people will choose to pay...?

I would have thought that the overwing exit seats would be the most popular, but there have been times I've wandered on in the last group to find an entire row empty. Certainly, in my experience, sitting near the front doesn't give you *too* much of a head start, and anyway, at somewhere like Luton or Stansted, I've managed to overtake everyone else on the walk to passport control.

Benefits of the exit row for me are: 1) Extra legroom (I'm tall) and 2) A guarantee that you won't be sitting next to a screaming child!
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