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Old 26th May 2008, 21:22
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FR to ZQW (Zweibrücken)

There are rumours about a new FR-Route from ZQW (Zweibrücken) to London (STN?). Anyone knows something about it?
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Old 26th May 2008, 21:55
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Update of Ryanair new route:

New:Perpignan, Llabanere (PGF) to Dublin (DUB)
New:Perpignan, Llabanere (PGF) to Nottingham, East Midlands (EMA)
New:Perpignan, Llabanere (PGF) to Liverpool, John Lennon (LPL)
New:Perpignan, Llabanere (PGF) to Shannon (SNN)
New:London, Stansted (STN) to Zweibrucken, (ZQW)

Maybe not all are true new route
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Old 26th May 2008, 22:01
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Zweibrücken is a small former military airport near Kaiserslautern. Actually Germanwings operate SXF-ZQW and there are some charter flights to leisure destinations.
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Old 26th May 2008, 22:38
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Strike at Carcassonne so all flights are operating to Perpignan instead. I hope it gets sorted before the very first Cork-Carcassonne flight on Wednesday.
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Old 26th May 2008, 23:03
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They still are new routes.

The actual flights havn't been put into the Ryanair system but they are on the drop down list so must be new destinations for the airport.

Not very often do we see a non-based airport receive four new routes at once!
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Old 26th May 2008, 23:26
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As I said they are not really new routes. Carcassonne is closed because of a strike and for some reason they have to change the flight numbers so they have to rebook passengers.
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Old 27th May 2008, 09:47
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Zweibrücken is now showing on the route map and is expected to be announced later today.
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Old 28th May 2008, 12:42
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It's a genuine thing, although of a lighter nature.

On May 12th the sensational news spread across Tampere. Some people spotted a light phenomenon shining very brightly over the Pyhäjärvi lake. Some photos and videos were made and there were many speculations what object may have caused it. Even the UFO experts were investigated by the press. Was it an UFO indeed? Well, probably not. Yesterday the Iltasanomat newspaper brought an answer. According to them, it was just a Ryanair plane approaching the Pirkkala airport. Well, the low-cost flights are such a rare phenomenon in Finland... I hope you'll understand.
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Old 28th May 2008, 13:56
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Zweibrücken is a small former military airport near Kaiserslautern. Actually Germanwings operate SXF-ZQW and there are some charter flights to leisure destinations.
Well known also for a large outlet centre next to the airport:

http://www.doz.com/wwwneu/en/index.html
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Old 28th May 2008, 17:02
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Ryanair's newest trend is to develope the domestic networks in Ireland, UK, Germany, Spain and in France as well. According to the French newspaper La Tribune, tomorrow the carrier intends to make a couple of new announcements.
La compagnie à bas coûts irlandaise va muscler son offre sur le réseau intérieur français au départ de sa base opérationnelle de Marseille.

Ryanair attaque le réseau intérieur français plus fortement que prévu au départ de sa base opérationnelle de Marseille.
(...)
Selon nos informations, Ryanair a prévu d'ouvrir à partir de la prochaine saison hiver début novembre la ligne Marseille-Lille à raison d'un vol quotidien et la ligne Marseille-Brest (quatre vols hebdomadaires), tout en musclant l'offre sur Beauvais (un vol par jour).
Ryanair is going to announce a daily connection between Marseille and Lille and also Marseille-Brest (to be operated 4 times a week). MRS-BVA will be operated daily (all above from the beginning of a Winter schedule).
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Old 28th May 2008, 17:16
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...am i right in thinking there might be flights from MRS to Agadir,Tangier and Nador with FR also?
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Old 28th May 2008, 17:45
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I wonder if MRS-Lille and MRS - CRL will work daily , very close to each other . Either ways it's about time they started to Lille , there is a massive population area around there , Lille , roubaix , tourcoing , kortrijk , bruges etc
Ya Lille would be strange choice considering Charleroi airport is about 100 kilometres away. Would it not make more sense to start a route from Lille that they don't already operate from Charleroi?
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Old 28th May 2008, 18:28
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And BHX is about 70Km from EMA and the same from MAN. And LTN is about 60km from STN and 130km from EMA and 95km from BHX.

Freedom of choice.
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Old 28th May 2008, 19:08
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Freedom of choice or ecessive offer?
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Old 28th May 2008, 19:18
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Well known also for a large outlet centre next to the airport:

http://www.doz.com/wwwneu/en/index.html
This is the main attractive of this area and probably the main reason to open this new route: a shopping route for England people

Maybe Ryanair takes a percentage on the outlet sales... .
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Old 28th May 2008, 19:34
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And BHX is about 70Km from EMA and the same from MAN. And LTN is about 60km from STN and 130km from EMA and 95km from BHX.
But BHX and EMA only have a few overlapping routes. Also Luton has quite a few different routes than Stansted. However you mustn't forget, the population density in Northern France is only a fraction of that between Luton and Stansted.
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Old 28th May 2008, 19:51
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Domestic routes

It's an interesting move. For years now, the FR average sector length has been steadily creeping up (251 miles in 1997, 473 in 2003, 621 in 2007) and FR now flies routes (e.g. Canary Islands, Morocco and Malta) that are longer than many would have thought would have fitted the business model.

In the last year we've seen the BHD base with 5x dly on STN and now 2x daily on EMA, PIK and LPL. Add to this EDI - BOH twice daily, BOH - PIK now twice daily, HHN - SXF 3x daily, HHN - LBC, the new base at REU with mainly domestic routes, frequency increases from BGY to AHO and TPS. And now we've got 3 a day on DUB - KIR and the rumoured French routes.

Let's not forget that FR grew out of short, relatively high frequency routes, but these were over the Irish Sea at a time when people perhaps felt less strongly about their carbon footprints.

Will MOL's cunning plan work?
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Old 28th May 2008, 19:55
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FR look to be having some expansion in MRS - Tangier/Agadir/Nadar have appeared in the Check-In section.
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Old 28th May 2008, 20:04
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Originally Posted by cesare.caldi
Freedom of choice or ecessive offer?
The excessive offer? In my opinion Ryanair does have a very solid network that works in spite of certain inconsequencies in the route planning. E.g. the load factors could be better if the network were more tailor-made according to customers' needs (less "deal engineered") and secondly, if some connecting flights were introduced to boost the diversity/ versatility/ attractivity of the offer.

But hey, being on a French ground. Did you notice this news? I think it's important from Ryanair's point of view.
Originally Posted by Le Figaro
La France s'ouvre aux «plombiers polonais» (France opens up to «Polish plumbers»)

A partir du 1er juillet 2008, un travailleur polonais ou tchèque pourra entrer librement en France et y exercer l'emploi de son choix. A l'occasion de sa visite à Varsovie, le chef de l'Etat a annoncé que la France avec un an d'avance sur le calendrier prévu ouvrira ses frontières aux ressortissants de la République tchèque, de la Slovaquie, de la Hongrie, de l'Estonie, de la Lettonie, de la Lituanie et de la Slovénie, au 1er juillet 2008.
The French president has decided to abandon all restrictions concerning the working force from Poland (and other Central-Eastern European states). As soon as of July 1st., in just one month.
Now, that's something. If FR is elastic enough, the "disposal" of some machines for the winter season might be less necessary...
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Old 28th May 2008, 20:05
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London Gatwick - Paris Beauvais

Just looking in the online checkin area and Paris Beauvais is avaliable from London Gatwick as well as Stansted does anybody know any information on this, is it correct or just an old route like many others on the page...

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