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Old 14th May 2008, 09:21
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Okay...I'll hold my horses.



Mind you, they'll have to reintroduce some weekend evening flights if they want to make some serious inroads.

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Old 14th May 2008, 17:16
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PSO

As far as I know one of the 3 Aer Arann's on DUB KIR is a non PSO flight.
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Old 15th May 2008, 14:47
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Kerry-Dublin PSO

Again, nothing today from FR. Something has to be up. They're never this quiet. The results of the PSOs were announced 2 days ago at this stage and still no comment from MOL or nothing on their website. Perhaps they didn't actually think they would get the PSO so they didn't actually have any aircraft lined up to operate the service?
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Old 15th May 2008, 14:55
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They have plenty of aircraft available next Winter. Maybe the question is whether to open a Kerry base or just use Dublin-based aircraft.
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Old 15th May 2008, 17:36
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a reduction of over €1.3m on the amount payable by the taxpayer for the provision of this public service.
Since the figures showed that Aer Arann were getting just over €3 million per annum, this must mean that Ryanair will be getting about €1.7 million per annum to operate the service. Thats only €775 per flight (based on 365 days operating 6 flights per day - 3 return flights). That won't come anywhere near even paying the fuel bill on a 738 for the flight
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Old 15th May 2008, 20:37
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a reduction of over €1.3m on the amount payable by the taxpayer for the provision of this public service

...it must mean over the 3 year period....!!! AND...they must know by now what the Aer Arann bid was this time and their tender came in €1.3 cheaper than them over the next 3 years. I wouldn't think that they are talking 'in arrears'... Tendered amounts were hardly less than those of 3 years ago!!!
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Old 16th May 2008, 10:07
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Looks like the aircraft operating the Kerry - Dublin flights is going to be based in Kerry in some shape or form.
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Old 16th May 2008, 10:52
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There's quite a long rotation between the morning rotation and the second rotation of the day. Certainly long enough to operate a flight to the UK. They may choose to operate either the existing Luton or Stansted flights in this gap. Alternatively, Kerry could be somewhere to park an aircraft for a while this winter...
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Old 16th May 2008, 10:59
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I reckon they might even switch the HHN rotation to a KIR based airplane. I think there would eb time between rotation 1 & 2 to Dublin.

Might not use the HHN plane or they could add a HHN - UK or Poland route to replace it..
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Old 16th May 2008, 12:44
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A quote from a Finnish travel forum:
Eikö ole mitään keinoa saada kuriin huippuröyhkeitä venäläisiä Tampere-Pirkkalan lentokentällä? Pian on tilanne se, että suomalaiset eivät mahdu koko kentälle Iivanoiden määrätessä tahtia.
"Aren't there any ways to curb the insulting Russians at Tampere-Pirkkala Airport? Soon we, the Finnish passengers, won't fit into this area as Ivans set the rhythm". A bit unpleasant racist-like text in fact. I'm citing it here because this shows how popular is Ryanair becoming among Russians. They are coming to Tampere from St. Peterburg to fly ahead, it's over 480 kilometers(!!!) How is it possible that FR still doesn't want to unlock the potential hiding here. EU's easternmost airport in Lappeenranta (LPP/EFLP) is almost 300 km nearer, less then 200 km away from the famous (and large) Russian city. Wondering why this unique place being still within the EU but so close to former Leningrad (the airport was already offered to FR some years ago but no decision made) remains still unexplored?
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Old 16th May 2008, 13:20
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FR can make an amazing amount of money in Russia, thing is that the Russian authorities will most likely never allow FR to enter their market in order to protect their own airlines. (most of them owned by people linked to the Kremlin by the way)
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Old 16th May 2008, 15:22
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Originally Posted by despegue
FR can make an amazing amount of money in Russia, thing is that the Russian authorities will most likely never allow FR to enter their market in order to protect their own airlines.
Right, but that's why this airport on the EU eastern border could work (as an entry point for both Russians and EU citizens). The same way as northern Switzerland (Basel) has its airport in France, actually, or even better (Switzerland is "almost" an EU-country, Russia won't be).

I must agree that MOL is slow to react to some opportunities further from the Isles. Like CE-Europe, for example. Polish routes are a huge success admittedly, but it was so hard to get Ryanair's interest in flying there (think: still not a single base created in this area).
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Old 16th May 2008, 20:54
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I reckon they might even switch the HHN rotation to a KIR based airplane. I think there would eb time between rotation 1 & 2 to Dublin.

Might not use the HHN plane or they could add a HHN - UK or Poland route to replace it.
Ya the times fit almost perfectly with a Hahn rotation in the morning and a London rotation in the evening. So it looks like the aircraft will be operating KIR-DUB-KIR-HHN-KIR-DUB-KIR-LON-KIR-DUB-KIR. The London airport is not clear but will probably be Stansted (I can't see them increasing Luton from 3 weekly todaily in one go) replacing the evening rotation by a Stansted based aircraft.
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Old 17th May 2008, 12:19
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A yet to be announced Ryanair base is planned at Kerry for July 2008, though planned routes are unknown. This is quite a surprise as it is only around two months from now (16 May 08). Confirmation for this base was recieved through the internal staff system.
Another base on the isles while there is still a huge untapped potential on the (east side of the) contintent itself
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Old 17th May 2008, 13:36
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Ryanair base to be established at Kerry..

While Ryanair will have an aircraft over night in Kerry I would be surprised if they establish a base there, well a base in the usual sense.

There is a very limited range of destinations that would be sustainable from KIR with a 738. Liverpool was a flop. However, would a twice weekly flight to Malaga, Faro etc work.
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Old 17th May 2008, 15:23
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It'll be a one aircraft base like Cork, Belfast and Bournemouth. I presume from the Dublin timetable that the aircraft will be operating 3 daily to Dublin, and one daily to Hahn and one daily to one of the London airports.
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Old 18th May 2008, 15:19
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Excellent Experience


Just returned from short visit to friend in France (STN-RDZ).
Return fare was £19 !
The only negatives were optional matters of personal choice or preference e.g.
-priority boarding (causes chaos/delay and makes little difference in practice)
-tacky (get your scratch cards etc.)
-drinks (rip-off)
-Stansted transfer (expensive but it's not my local airport)
On balance, excellent so long may Ryan continue and expand.
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Old 18th May 2008, 17:55
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Ryanair

Just completed several FR trips, all on time,spotless 737 800´s, good crew, excellent tea even on board, all at low cost, so far nothing to complain about with Ryanair and looking forward to future flights.
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Old 19th May 2008, 14:04
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Unsurprisingly today RYR have announced the decoupling of free priority boarding from web check in. From what i can make out its now going to be £4/E5 per sector from June 3rd.

Its a wonder it took them this long to cut out. .

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Old 19th May 2008, 21:40
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Just wonder when the surcharges from FR will stop, what next a charge for using th loo on board or how about a use the stairs to board the aircraft charge. Tongue and cheek I know but come on MOL play the game.
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