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Ryanair to cut airport costs with check-in kiosks scheme
From a certain independent Irish newspaper.
"We're telling airports that we want to use as few of their facilities as is humanly possible…We're in the final stages of doing a deal with a kiosk provider and we're pretty confident that in the next few years you won't have Ryanair check-in desks at all, you'll just have kiosks,"
"Mr O'Leary stressed that kiosks -- automated ticket check-ins -- would carry the same price as staffed desks (€3), while online it would continue to be free."
STN and DUB will be the test airports. However, “Those cost savings in Dubiln, however, could be lower than anticipated as sources at the airport confirmed a "commercial charge" for kiosks will soon be introduced.”
Ryanair’s version of the kiosks will “include functions like hotel booking and car hire booking.”
"Mr O'Leary stressed that kiosks -- automated ticket check-ins -- would carry the same price as staffed desks (€3), while online it would continue to be free."
STN and DUB will be the test airports. However, “Those cost savings in Dubiln, however, could be lower than anticipated as sources at the airport confirmed a "commercial charge" for kiosks will soon be introduced.”
Ryanair’s version of the kiosks will “include functions like hotel booking and car hire booking.”
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Ryanair will increase charges for baggage handling and airport check-in
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Ryanair has announced it will continue is policy of levying a charge for airport check-in and the carriage of hold baggage and will increase the current fees in place. In March this year the budget carrier began charging travellers to put suitcases in the hold, and a recent financial statement revealed that this policy has been lucrative.
Now, chief executive Michael O'Leary has confirmed that the check-in fee for those who do so at an airport desk, rather than online, will double from £2 to £4. At the current time passengers are charged £2 to check in at the airport, and £5 for the first bag to be put in the hold.
O'Leary told The Telegraph: "People complain we are charging for check-in, but people who use web check-in and only have carry-on luggage are getting even cheaper fares."
"The baggage charges and the check-in charges will rise. We will keep raising them until we can persuade the 40 to 45 per cent of passengers who travel with Ryanair for one or two days to bring just one carry-on bag."
Now, chief executive Michael O'Leary has confirmed that the check-in fee for those who do so at an airport desk, rather than online, will double from £2 to £4. At the current time passengers are charged £2 to check in at the airport, and £5 for the first bag to be put in the hold.
O'Leary told The Telegraph: "People complain we are charging for check-in, but people who use web check-in and only have carry-on luggage are getting even cheaper fares."
"The baggage charges and the check-in charges will rise. We will keep raising them until we can persuade the 40 to 45 per cent of passengers who travel with Ryanair for one or two days to bring just one carry-on bag."
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"The baggage charges and the check-in charges will rise. We will keep raising them until we can persuade the 40 to 45 per cent of passengers who travel with Ryanair for one or two days to bring just one carry-on bag."
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The pilots must be bored stiff from flying up to Dublin via Clonmel and Killiney
ryan2000
Perhaps you should make a suggestion to Ryanair operations that pilots be allowed choose a more adventurous routing
They operate the LGW flight also, btw.
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So what happens for those people who want to go away for more than one or two days?! Penalising people who want to have a holiday...
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Most of the crews operating FR flights from ORK are based elsewhere, they come in and spend a few days working the ORK routes and the head home.
I flew DUB-ORK-DUB today and came across LPL/STN and Scandinavian based crews.
I flew DUB-ORK-DUB today and came across LPL/STN and Scandinavian based crews.
Join Date: Sep 2006
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There´s one problem I think Ryr does not see:
Who rents a car for a long time? (And making Hertz paying high commisions to FR?)
Who goes to a hotel for a long time? (And making Expedia paying high commissions to FR?)
Who buys expensive food on board? Using Check In at the desk? Bringing Luggage?
And who are the persons who bring FR the only (and not to less money) they earn if they have more and more free tickets to give free at all to public?
Yeah, you all know who this is. Families with children on their long trip to Spain, Sweden, Italy, Canaries and so on.
And who does NOT bring FR any money?
Daytrippers, students, even business people. In Germany we have maybe 50.000 people who just travel for fun (and one, max 2-3 days!) and making FR about 250.000 - 500.000 flights every year. They just look, how they can get the cheapest flight and they book only the flight. They are the first, they pay nothing else to FR. The same with business people = They fly in the morning to STN, DUB, NYO, BRE and further business / party / In-cities, use public transport services or have their favorite car company (business people mostly have a contract!), staying at hostels, nightclubs or at the airport and do NOTHING FR expects them to do. FR does not get any money from them, only the 0,01 EUR they´ve paid for the tix.
The problem is: But ONLY those people are the people who can use FR´s cheapest prices without any charge, any fee, any fine.
Every other person, who is forced by FR´s fees, fines and charges to use either another airline or to leave home luggage and children will bring FR loads of money, because the "standard-tourist" is the only one who takes everything he can get from one place and he is also the only one who takes a Hertz Car for 14 days and an Expedia Hotel for also 14 days.
So FR - I don´t know what the expression is in english - "bites the hand it feeds them", the persons who pay and consume a lot over their website for their non aviation business...
I hope, anyone at FR reads this and go´s straight to MOL to tell him, that his idea maybe has a problem.
Any other opinions?
Who rents a car for a long time? (And making Hertz paying high commisions to FR?)
Who goes to a hotel for a long time? (And making Expedia paying high commissions to FR?)
Who buys expensive food on board? Using Check In at the desk? Bringing Luggage?
And who are the persons who bring FR the only (and not to less money) they earn if they have more and more free tickets to give free at all to public?
Yeah, you all know who this is. Families with children on their long trip to Spain, Sweden, Italy, Canaries and so on.
And who does NOT bring FR any money?
Daytrippers, students, even business people. In Germany we have maybe 50.000 people who just travel for fun (and one, max 2-3 days!) and making FR about 250.000 - 500.000 flights every year. They just look, how they can get the cheapest flight and they book only the flight. They are the first, they pay nothing else to FR. The same with business people = They fly in the morning to STN, DUB, NYO, BRE and further business / party / In-cities, use public transport services or have their favorite car company (business people mostly have a contract!), staying at hostels, nightclubs or at the airport and do NOTHING FR expects them to do. FR does not get any money from them, only the 0,01 EUR they´ve paid for the tix.
The problem is: But ONLY those people are the people who can use FR´s cheapest prices without any charge, any fee, any fine.
Every other person, who is forced by FR´s fees, fines and charges to use either another airline or to leave home luggage and children will bring FR loads of money, because the "standard-tourist" is the only one who takes everything he can get from one place and he is also the only one who takes a Hertz Car for 14 days and an Expedia Hotel for also 14 days.
So FR - I don´t know what the expression is in english - "bites the hand it feeds them", the persons who pay and consume a lot over their website for their non aviation business...
I hope, anyone at FR reads this and go´s straight to MOL to tell him, that his idea maybe has a problem.
Any other opinions?
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Well, the value is still there. I booked the other night return seats from STN/LEI for four pax and the total price was £80, add on a hold bag each and the check in and it pushes each return fare up by about a tenner. £120 for 4 returns is still rather cheap.
15 kilos hold and 10 kilos cabin per pax is more than enough for a week away. FR are right to try and maximise revenue but perhaps MOL should try and be a little less disingenuous about it.
15 kilos hold and 10 kilos cabin per pax is more than enough for a week away. FR are right to try and maximise revenue but perhaps MOL should try and be a little less disingenuous about it.
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Airport check in charge
It wouldn't be quite so bad if you were allowed to use the web check in if you had luggage to check in also. At the moment if you have luggage to check in you have to pay the luggage charge and the airport check in charge too. I fail to see how MOL can go away for a fortnight with only a flightbag, unless he is constantly washing and ironing his clothes!
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At some point in time , people will realise that there are other airlines out there, sure not many offer penny flights, but by time you add tax and every other charge, alot of the time, for a the average passenger, theres little difference, just takes a little time to search out on internet or phone, hey even try a travel agent(see what discounts being offered), I got cheaper flight to tenerife on BA than either Jet2 or ryanair, you just have to shop around. Ryanair have done a lot to bring cheaper airtravel to the public, but would seem they will charge for every single little thing, next itl be a charge for toilets, a £1 on board 50p to buy online, it'l happen
But at end of day , all they are there for is to make money for the shareholders, as is what any business is there for , if its being succesfully run, and not being a ryanair fan , you cant argue with how well its doing.
But at end of day , all they are there for is to make money for the shareholders, as is what any business is there for , if its being succesfully run, and not being a ryanair fan , you cant argue with how well its doing.
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MOL won't wash and iron his own clothes! He's already said that he buys a new hairdryer instead of packing one (how very green
), he's rich enough that he can do the same with clothes.
Ryanair has introduced cheap flying to a whole new audience, and they're probably banking (literally) on the fact that once people have 'done' DUB, MAD and CIA, then they'll be tempted by the ever more weird and wonderful destinations.
My potential trip to ORK has just gone up by another £24 (check-in tax), making it less likely that we'll fly. I'm suddenly feeling pessimistic about Ryanair's EMA expansion, given that most of the EMA routes are leisure/holiday, coupled with us east-midlanders having an eye for a bargain. However, the bargains are disappearing, and even though the flights (including all the add-ons) are still cheap compared to pre-Ryanair days, they're going to make us have second thoughts.
), he's rich enough that he can do the same with clothes.Ryanair has introduced cheap flying to a whole new audience, and they're probably banking (literally) on the fact that once people have 'done' DUB, MAD and CIA, then they'll be tempted by the ever more weird and wonderful destinations.
My potential trip to ORK has just gone up by another £24 (check-in tax), making it less likely that we'll fly. I'm suddenly feeling pessimistic about Ryanair's EMA expansion, given that most of the EMA routes are leisure/holiday, coupled with us east-midlanders having an eye for a bargain. However, the bargains are disappearing, and even though the flights (including all the add-ons) are still cheap compared to pre-Ryanair days, they're going to make us have second thoughts.
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The real con is that the extra charge for check-in, baggage etc., goes to RYR not the check-in handling agent. These people are not RYR employees and have a handling contract rate. This, including the scam wheelchair/insurance levy, is another stealth tax worthy of any politician, even G.B. However, the bottom line is what pax are prepared to pay to travel. It is true, as I found from a friend who I met in AGP, that my cost of tripping down there with golfclubs and baggage via RYR, was the same as he paid on BA. As MOL has stated he will ignore some or all of the pax charter of refunds & compensation when the S$!t hits the fan and fligths are delayed/cancelled, it might not take so long for many to realise that the risk of travelling with LoCo's is not worth it. I have often found a major carrier to GVA is cheaper than ez, especially at last minute. Also with 4 flights a day there is flexibility and they allowed me to travel earlier on the day at no charge.
It is often the case that the total cost of a trip from the local major airport with the local major carrier is about the same as the bargain basement give away with a LoCo, after taking into account travelling time into the bundoo, parking, charges for everything etc. etc. For a small price differential the whole trip can be much more relaxing.
There is service out there with a free smile and no charge.
It is often the case that the total cost of a trip from the local major airport with the local major carrier is about the same as the bargain basement give away with a LoCo, after taking into account travelling time into the bundoo, parking, charges for everything etc. etc. For a small price differential the whole trip can be much more relaxing.
There is service out there with a free smile and no charge.
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There are some rumours about MOL travelling to Poland (Krakow) and Slovakia (Bratislava) next Wednesday. Just a few route announcements or maybe a new base to be created somewhere? Any hints?
Any hints?
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@RAT 5:
You are so right. But who made it possible? Isn't it the competition with the loco's which forces the legacy carriers to improve service and prices?
Nowadays in Germany Lufthansa offers cheaper flights than Air Berlin. But what would it be like without Air Berlin (EZ, FR)?
Yes, I fly Ryanair. I like them as no frillers. They don't pretend to be competitive. They are.
You are so right. But who made it possible? Isn't it the competition with the loco's which forces the legacy carriers to improve service and prices?
Nowadays in Germany Lufthansa offers cheaper flights than Air Berlin. But what would it be like without Air Berlin (EZ, FR)?
Yes, I fly Ryanair. I like them as no frillers. They don't pretend to be competitive. They are.
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This article (http://www.cincodias.com/articulo/em...cdiemp_11/Tes/ in Spanish) says that Ryanair will soon announce 2 new bases, that will open in Summer 2008. Maybe they will indeed be Krakow and Bratislava then. Especially if he's going to the bother of flying over.
