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Ryanair will further expand its Shannon base due to current strong forward bookings. Ryanair’s services will almost double on Shannon – London from 4 to 7 flights daily with services from Shannon to Gatwick, Luton and Stansted, where Shannon passengers can connect to more destinations than they presently can from Heathrow. Ryanair intends to double its Shannon-Paris services to a twice daily flight next Summer, and Ryanair is now in negotiations with Amsterdam Schiphol Airport to see if a viable cost base can be agreed to allow a low fare Shannon-Amsterdam route to be launched. This Winter Ryanair will operate more than 40 daily flights to/from Shannon, connecting Shannon to 30 European destinations. If Aer Lingus is determined to abandon Shannon and the West of Ireland then Ryanair will add more flights and more low fares.
Ryanair at Amsterdam Schipol? That would be a very interesting development!!
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the Dutch have announced a 11.25 euros eco tax to come in from July 2008. i bet Ryanair is not going to like that too much!!
I won't fly RhineAir again EI-BUD. They lost baggage and nearly made me late with their poor checkin procedures a few years ago. Add to that the aggressive nature of their management and they are what is worst about modern airlines to me. If I wanted to fly cheaply, I might fly EZY again, although I never manage to get the cheap flights (:-(), but RhineAir is just ghastly.
Now Türk Hava Yollari (Turkish Airlines) are just the business for me at the moment. I have flown 4 trips with them in the last 2 weeks, 2 longish (STN-IST), 2 short (IST-DLM) and they were great. Nearly as cheap as the ghastly RA, but with decent check-in, decent food and drink, friendly staff and 4 safe landings. Mind you, the app to IST at night was a bit bendy, and I was not too sure about darting through the cloud gaps just north of DLM just above the mountains ...
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Now Türk Hava Yollari (Turkish Airlines) are just the business for me at the moment. I have flown 4 trips with them in the last 2 weeks, 2 longish (STN-IST), 2 short (IST-DLM) and they were great. Nearly as cheap as the ghastly RA, but with decent check-in, decent food and drink, friendly staff and 4 safe landings. Mind you, the app to IST at night was a bit bendy, and I was not too sure about darting through the cloud gaps just north of DLM just above the mountains ...
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Anyone know which 5 countries?
RTE:
http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/0920/ryanair.html
Mr O'Leary also said Ryanair was in discussions with five countries - former Soviet republics or North African states outside Morocco - about new routes.
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FR will always be in talks with airports. Whether such talks amount to anything is what matters. Of course, that article is interesting because it concerns unusual countries. But will it amount to anything in the next few years? Who knows?
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The states of former Soviet republics or North African outside Morocco are not in Europe so there isn't open sky and Ryanair can eventually flight here only from Ireland.
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I understand Turkey and Tunisia are two of the countries.
As for the others, I can't see Ryanair starting to Algeria or Libya. Most former Soviet republics are either in the EU or too far east for Ryanair, so that leaves Russia, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova. You can probably rule out Belarus. So, pick three of Egypt, Russia, Ukraine and Moldova.
I had heard Israel mentioned as a possible, but can't see it personally, considering the extra security on Israeli flights and what that could do to costs and turnaround times.
cesare.caldi->These are dependent on those countries agreeing to open skies with the EU.
As for the others, I can't see Ryanair starting to Algeria or Libya. Most former Soviet republics are either in the EU or too far east for Ryanair, so that leaves Russia, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova. You can probably rule out Belarus. So, pick three of Egypt, Russia, Ukraine and Moldova.
I had heard Israel mentioned as a possible, but can't see it personally, considering the extra security on Israeli flights and what that could do to costs and turnaround times.
cesare.caldi->These are dependent on those countries agreeing to open skies with the EU.
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Russia
Russia with its vast population and many attractions should certainly be considered as a "promised land" for a further expansion. However, unless successful in acquiring Aer Lingus, Ryanair cannot at present easily grow in non-EU Eastern Europe (and I don't believe Russia and its satellites were going to join open skies any time soon). It doesn't mean FR shouldn't plan to conquer these markets at all, they just have to look for a "backdoor" access.
I can recall reading in this forum about (former or still existent perhaps?) plans to use the airport in eastern Finland as a gate to St. Petersburg, Russia (with a bus connection to the town). It would make sense to me. Using the airport located 10 km or so from the EU-Russia border pretty close to St. Petersburg would leave all the beaurocracy outside of the carrier's trouble and would make waiting for open skies agreement with Russia unnecessary for them on this route. Otherwise I do not see how FR could enjoy any significant chunk of this big cake (meaning the population of former USSR and its tourist attractions).
I can recall reading in this forum about (former or still existent perhaps?) plans to use the airport in eastern Finland as a gate to St. Petersburg, Russia (with a bus connection to the town). It would make sense to me. Using the airport located 10 km or so from the EU-Russia border pretty close to St. Petersburg would leave all the beaurocracy outside of the carrier's trouble and would make waiting for open skies agreement with Russia unnecessary for them on this route. Otherwise I do not see how FR could enjoy any significant chunk of this big cake (meaning the population of former USSR and its tourist attractions).
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Is there any more news on FR pulling out of Almeria? There is no booking facility after 27/10 but that just may be the end of the season.
Shame if it is, I have used it before and I am again 15/10, loadings seemed quite healthy and I always tend to fly on the most unpopular days.
Shame if it is, I have used it before and I am again 15/10, loadings seemed quite healthy and I always tend to fly on the most unpopular days.
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Im sure I read somewhere that Ryanair were looking at the Liverpool-Charleroi again. Did anything come of this as Stansted is a hell of a long drive and anything out of Manchester is too damm expensive when there are 4 of you
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Ryanair said a few months ago that it was looking at establishing a completely separate airline - Ryanair itself wouldn't operate the flights - to begin low-cost, long-haul flights from the USA to European destinations. It stated that this wouldn't occur for 3-5 years, and would probably use 787s. Clearly that time period has changed. As always there's very little information, so we'll just have to wait and see.
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I wonder if Ryanair themselfs are thinking of this route
as a feeder route to all European bases using 737-800s.
The leg room is not that bad, I for one would look
forward to even £100 rtn special offers.
The lower fares to the US east coast is about £470 rtn inc tax
on other transatlantic carriers so it might bring on a price war
but your right its just a case of wait and see.
as a feeder route to all European bases using 737-800s.
The leg room is not that bad, I for one would look
forward to even £100 rtn special offers.
The lower fares to the US east coast is about £470 rtn inc tax
on other transatlantic carriers so it might bring on a price war
but your right its just a case of wait and see.
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They have clearly stated that any long-haul airline would be operated completely separately from themselves. And I, for one, don't think that will change.
Only those kind of prices during the all-important summer, when demand rockets and fares soar. During the winter, however, prices plummet; indeed, during those months it's possible to get London-NY-London including taxes for about £200.
FR will never offer proper connections, with through ticketing, connecting baggage, increased responsibility, etc, not least because it results in greater complexity and reduced yields. But what would be possible would be to fly into one of their bases with the new, separate airline and to then connect manually: get your bag, go through immigration, then check in again. You can, of course, presently do this, and I have done it. It revolves around consumer responsibility: it's entirely your risk. It doesn't decrease airline simplicity or result in lower yield because you book flights separately. For example, if you were flying PIK-STN-SVQ you'd have to book PIK-STN and STN-SVQ separately. So, yes, you'd be able to manually connect from a long-haul flight to a European service.
The lower fares to the US east coast is about £470 rtn inc tax
I wonder if Ryanair themselfs are thinking of this route
as a feeder route
as a feeder route
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BVA
Not my opinion, i was expecting Riga to be the next base, but something I found out today that BVA will be a base (not that I will be asking to join the transfer list).
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