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Hopefully this will make it fairer - remember its about re-educating PAX on how to travel. You do it once - you'll never do it again.
Being quite clear that its time to pay up at £30 a time very quickly changes someones mind the next time.
Staff shouldn't be abused doing their job.
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On the "Check'NGo" boarding pass (and I have one in front of me now) it states:
"Handbag, briefcase, laptops, duty free etc must be carried within your permitted 1 piece of cabin baggage"
This is in capital letters and underlined!
On the "Check'NGo" boarding pass (and I have one in front of me now) it states:
"Handbag, briefcase, laptops, duty free etc must be carried within your permitted 1 piece of cabin baggage"
This is in capital letters and underlined!
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"Handbag, briefcase, laptops, duty free etc must be carried within your permitted 1 piece of cabin baggage"
Pity they didn't mention duty free in their press release, nor on their site:
Strictly one item of cabin baggage per passenger (excluding infants) weighing up to 10kg with maximum dimensions of 55cm x 40cm x 20cm is permitted. (handbag, briefcase, laptops etc must be carried within your permitted 1 piece of cabin baggage).
I suggest that pax do one piece of checked baggage, then take their laptop and handbag, separately, and then refuse to pay the £30.
Plenty of upset schedules as the bags are searched for and removed, and the flight loses its slot and departs an hour late will surely concentrate Dublin's minds.
Plenty of upset schedules as the bags are searched for and removed, and the flight loses its slot and departs an hour late will surely concentrate Dublin's minds.
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Strong rumour around STNFR is that FR have in place the option of
six "long haul" A/C [secured], If a second revised bid for EI fails.
Ryanair is set to go head to head with Aer Lingus on EI's transatlantic routes.
Has anyone heard anymore ?
six "long haul" A/C [secured], If a second revised bid for EI fails.
Ryanair is set to go head to head with Aer Lingus on EI's transatlantic routes.
Has anyone heard anymore ?
A new airline with it's own brand formed by Micheal O'Leary or in partnership with Ryanair is far more likely at this point in time.
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Good point but I wonder if the famed business acumen is going out the window as this Irish soap all gets very personal. If he can't have Aer Lingus, is he going to try and destroy it?
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Duty Free is allowed - the airports all complained. Many airports give Ryanair discounted landing fees etc as they would make money from things such as duty free sales. It was (for a brief period) stated that all duty free must fit inside your cabin baggage, this rule has now been reversed.
All airports should be following the same rules - but this is what happens when you have so many different companies being contracted out to deliver the same product.
EDI for eg is very strict with the policy - I have seen PAX offloaded from there when travelling through. However, AGP let pax through with handbags and trolley bags.
All airports should be following the same rules - but this is what happens when you have so many different companies being contracted out to deliver the same product.
EDI for eg is very strict with the policy - I have seen PAX offloaded from there when travelling through. However, AGP let pax through with handbags and trolley bags.
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New routes?
They have been available for few hours some routes from :Bournemouth, Reus, Frao and Luton.
Now not available anymore. You can still see here:
News - 2009-01-21 Ryanair
Are these route that are going for sale or just IT mistakes?
Now not available anymore. You can still see here:
News - 2009-01-21 Ryanair
Are these route that are going for sale or just IT mistakes?
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They have been available for few hours some routes from :Bournemouth, Reus, Frao and Luton.
Now not available anymore. You can still see here:
News - 2009-01-21 Ryanair
Are these route that are going for sale or just IT mistakes?
Now not available anymore. You can still see here:
News - 2009-01-21 Ryanair
Are these route that are going for sale or just IT mistakes?
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Did anyone spot the article in last Saturdays Daily Telegraph Travel section about RYR. There they calculated that RYR could, conservatively, raise
650m pounds by extra charges such as baggage, sport equipment & credit card charges. Wow, that is more than their annual profit. They also explain how much these have risen in the past 3-5 years; as much as 300%. Yet RYR still pump out the mantra that they are fair, transparent, no fuel surcharge and the cheapest fares. They still insist that the fare is what counts not the final cost. They claim all the others are optional add ons. They still claim that by offering Electron cards for free there is a choice. No there's not becaus
e the vast overwhelming majority of pax can't get one. They want to force you into hand bags only and web checkin, But they give you only a feeble 10kgs alloowance and a heafty credit card charge for the privilege. How can a week away be catered for in 10kgs? Even a spontaneous weekend, which is what they survive on, is difficullt in 10kgs. So it is a con which ever way you look at it.
As someone who takes sports equipment most times, and a suitcase RYR is not always cheaper. EZY can be much better just because of more baggage allowance and cheaper sports charge. Recently, 3 months in advance, even KLM was 1/2 the EZY price on AMS GVA. Even more baggage and 4 flights a day to choose, not only 2. I have friends who take BA very often with golf clubs or skis, or kite surfers etc. No charge and a very small credit card charge. The final cost with the majors is often cheaper than LoCo's. With more convenient flight times, i.e. not 06.00, you can use public transport and save a bundle in parking charges. All part of the cost.
To paraphrase the older Bush; "it's the final price stupid, not the basic fare. Read my lips."
Surely there are grounds for a case if an operator says it is charging you Xeuros for a credit card charge and the banks say they only charge 0.1X. And this is perpax not per transaction. This is a transpartent con, so where are the comsumer protection bodies when you need them.
650m pounds by extra charges such as baggage, sport equipment & credit card charges. Wow, that is more than their annual profit. They also explain how much these have risen in the past 3-5 years; as much as 300%. Yet RYR still pump out the mantra that they are fair, transparent, no fuel surcharge and the cheapest fares. They still insist that the fare is what counts not the final cost. They claim all the others are optional add ons. They still claim that by offering Electron cards for free there is a choice. No there's not becaus
e the vast overwhelming majority of pax can't get one. They want to force you into hand bags only and web checkin, But they give you only a feeble 10kgs alloowance and a heafty credit card charge for the privilege. How can a week away be catered for in 10kgs? Even a spontaneous weekend, which is what they survive on, is difficullt in 10kgs. So it is a con which ever way you look at it. As someone who takes sports equipment most times, and a suitcase RYR is not always cheaper. EZY can be much better just because of more baggage allowance and cheaper sports charge. Recently, 3 months in advance, even KLM was 1/2 the EZY price on AMS GVA. Even more baggage and 4 flights a day to choose, not only 2. I have friends who take BA very often with golf clubs or skis, or kite surfers etc. No charge and a very small credit card charge. The final cost with the majors is often cheaper than LoCo's. With more convenient flight times, i.e. not 06.00, you can use public transport and save a bundle in parking charges. All part of the cost.
To paraphrase the older Bush; "it's the final price stupid, not the basic fare. Read my lips."
Surely there are grounds for a case if an operator says it is charging you Xeuros for a credit card charge and the banks say they only charge 0.1X. And this is perpax not per transaction. This is a transpartent con, so where are the comsumer protection bodies when you need them.
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It's true that Ryanair have a lot of "hidden" fees.
But it is possible at ALL airlines to see the final cost before booking. Then you can choose with which airline you fly. I don't care about the PR, I just choose the most convenient airline based on price(total), timings, airports, service.
But it is possible at ALL airlines to see the final cost before booking. Then you can choose with which airline you fly. I don't care about the PR, I just choose the most convenient airline based on price(total), timings, airports, service.
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If only all passengers could be aware of what they want to take to their flight and make a search of which airline gives the best deal for their needs everything would be much easier. I don't mind Ryanair cause I've made two trips in the last two months, both during 5 days and I weighted my hand luggage all the ways, and it never was over 9 kg, neither i needed more than what I took, so Ryanair is a good deal with me. If I had to take a suitcase and even a Golf club or whatever then I would look at Easyjet or British Airways and see if Ryanair would still give me the best price. Of course there are routes that don't give any choice, but that happens and you have to accept what is offered. or just stay at home or make a much complex intenerary..
Nice (supposed) new routes btw..Would really like to see Faro-Bremen happen.
Nice (supposed) new routes btw..Would really like to see Faro-Bremen happen.
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True to most of that. However RYR seem to have the philosophy that they must be able to claim the lowest 'fare'. They still have to make a profit. They try to claim "why should day pax subsidise longer time baggage carrying pax?" Some merit in that, but the charges bear no relation to the incurred costs. Indeed it is the baggage carrying pax who subsidise the hand bag only pax. Thus RYR can claim the lowest fares. Con.
The government (UK) has agreed with the consumer that bank charges have to be realistic relative to the costs involved. Many refunds have been imposed due to over charging. What's the difference in other consumer products namely airline tickets. Imagine if restaurants lowered their food prices on the menu and then added outrageous 'service charge' for the table, chairs and cutlery. OK, eaters would look at the bottom line, or just take-away. Either way I'm sure the restaurant would lose out eventually. Cinemas with very cheap tickets to watch the film, but a heavy charge for head phones to listen. The possibilities go on & on.
Imagine where it could go if airline policy wormed its way into everyday life? Everything, restaurants, films, hotels, etc. etc. were cheapest for those who booked earliest. Life would collapse. There are those who'd say the market would decide. Perhaps so, but what a mess it would be in the meantime. It no longer would be a 'service industry' society, but profits at any cost. Dog eat dog. The viloence of capitalism. Is that what we really want to live in? A fair price for a fair product. Value for money. What's wrong with that? It used to be a similar price across many products in many areas and the customer service and customer experience decided it. Agreed, the internet shopping has changed life, but after sales service still sways the choice of many.
However, I doubt it will change; not quickly.
The government (UK) has agreed with the consumer that bank charges have to be realistic relative to the costs involved. Many refunds have been imposed due to over charging. What's the difference in other consumer products namely airline tickets. Imagine if restaurants lowered their food prices on the menu and then added outrageous 'service charge' for the table, chairs and cutlery. OK, eaters would look at the bottom line, or just take-away. Either way I'm sure the restaurant would lose out eventually. Cinemas with very cheap tickets to watch the film, but a heavy charge for head phones to listen. The possibilities go on & on.
Imagine where it could go if airline policy wormed its way into everyday life? Everything, restaurants, films, hotels, etc. etc. were cheapest for those who booked earliest. Life would collapse. There are those who'd say the market would decide. Perhaps so, but what a mess it would be in the meantime. It no longer would be a 'service industry' society, but profits at any cost. Dog eat dog. The viloence of capitalism. Is that what we really want to live in? A fair price for a fair product. Value for money. What's wrong with that? It used to be a similar price across many products in many areas and the customer service and customer experience decided it. Agreed, the internet shopping has changed life, but after sales service still sways the choice of many.
However, I doubt it will change; not quickly.
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You make valid point but within the service sector there has always been differentiated prices .
Go to Paris and visit a Cafe, stand at the bar, sit inside or sit outside and you will pay a different price.
Book a Holiday inn and if well in advance it can be pretty cheap but again depends whethers its weekend or weekday, book a Travelodge and it can be very cheap but non flexible or expensive and flexible.
Go to McDonalds and order a burger and they will suggest a meal, order a meal and they will suggest upsizing or a dessert, you can still have your basic burger but the stress the value in Big Mac Meal.
Restaurants add in service charges be it for only 1 person or for large parties and often on Weekend nights they will not have a table for a singleton as minimises revenue.
Pubs do it as well with pensioner specials or a cheap specials board during the week at lunchtime and more expensive meals in the evening or cheap beer during the week and not on Friday or Saturday night.
Airlines are just doing what the service sector has been doing for years in realising if you break every single activity down and looking at whether its a cost or revenue earning opportunity then you can decide how to run your business.
FR in fact are offering people menu of so many items and getting people to make decisions on what they want to add.
Many of the charges FR have imposed have been picked up by other airlines and tailored to their own requirements.
You make valid point but within the service sector there has always been differentiated prices .
Go to Paris and visit a Cafe, stand at the bar, sit inside or sit outside and you will pay a different price.
Book a Holiday inn and if well in advance it can be pretty cheap but again depends whethers its weekend or weekday, book a Travelodge and it can be very cheap but non flexible or expensive and flexible.
Go to McDonalds and order a burger and they will suggest a meal, order a meal and they will suggest upsizing or a dessert, you can still have your basic burger but the stress the value in Big Mac Meal.
Restaurants add in service charges be it for only 1 person or for large parties and often on Weekend nights they will not have a table for a singleton as minimises revenue.
Pubs do it as well with pensioner specials or a cheap specials board during the week at lunchtime and more expensive meals in the evening or cheap beer during the week and not on Friday or Saturday night.
Airlines are just doing what the service sector has been doing for years in realising if you break every single activity down and looking at whether its a cost or revenue earning opportunity then you can decide how to run your business.
FR in fact are offering people menu of so many items and getting people to make decisions on what they want to add.
Many of the charges FR have imposed have been picked up by other airlines and tailored to their own requirements.
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New Routes
RYANAIR NEW ROUTES yet to be announced
BOH-LIMOGES
BOH-FARO
BOH-REUS
BOH-CARCASSONE
FROM JULY 09 BOH TO:
BELFAST
STOCKHOLM
TENERIFE
FEZ
MALTA
BIARRITZ
BERGERAC
BERLIN
VENICE
ROME
BOH-LIMOGES
BOH-FARO
BOH-REUS
BOH-CARCASSONE
FROM JULY 09 BOH TO:
BELFAST
STOCKHOLM
TENERIFE
FEZ
MALTA
BIARRITZ
BERGERAC
BERLIN
VENICE
ROME
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Hi Guys,
At the risk of possibly repeating somebody else, there is a site that i discovered that is raising the pro's and con's of the FR bidding for AL.. Here is the link....Say No To Airline Monopolies
At the risk of possibly repeating somebody else, there is a site that i discovered that is raising the pro's and con's of the FR bidding for AL.. Here is the link....Say No To Airline Monopolies
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So who are the people behind it and what is their vested interest ?
Just curious as this site seems to being punted around a bit but always useful to know what their agenda is.
As to content I'm afraid reading on here has more than the whole site.
So who are the people behind it and what is their vested interest ?
Just curious as this site seems to being punted around a bit but always useful to know what their agenda is.
As to content I'm afraid reading on here has more than the whole site.
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Recession
What I want to know is why my 10kg daughter should subsidise Mr & Mrs Overflow who can hardly fit in their seats? They don't even thank her for it. They just flatten her because she is in the way of the stampeed to get a seat. Some of them even have the nerve to think there should be child free flights. 
Recession lesson 1 - Stay at home and don't subsidise anyone.
Recession lesson 1 - Stay at home and don't subsidise anyone.