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Seems alot on this forum who think the UK is the centre of the universe..
Ryanair is an Irish Company, who since the turn of the century have been very busy diversifying into Europe. I would say that Ryanair has the most languages of any airline in the world.
The UK is toast, people are already being told to go camping in the UK by the BBC. This doesn't mean Aviation in Europe is dead.
Ryanair is an Irish Company, who since the turn of the century have been very busy diversifying into Europe. I would say that Ryanair has the most languages of any airline in the world.
The UK is toast, people are already being told to go camping in the UK by the BBC. This doesn't mean Aviation in Europe is dead.
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O'leary made the crucial mistake of not being upfront enough with the major financial guys. They don't like that as has been seen with others who have done the same in the past in other sectors.
He will go shortly when he can produce some good news to save face. The Company has done well under him and you can't deny his achievements but in the same way Stelios made way for a different culture so too has the time come for a new caring Ryanair and then the competition really should watch out.
Oils is hedged for September and Q3 at $129 and $124 respectively. Oil prices are in decline with the latest price now at $121 and falling from the highs of $145. So now they've hedged at a higher price than the spot. Assuming the falls continue then their competitirs will hedge again as I'm sure Ryanair will at similar levels. The last time Ryanair hedged was at $65. Much as we would all like to see oil prices fall I doubt they will go that low but assuming they settle around the $90 then the impact of fuel on Ryanair is far more significant that legacy carriers.
Ryanair have pushed the limits on credit card charges, baggage etc etc. You can only go so far before Joe Public has had enough and then the charges actually work against you.
The challenge of the Uk is an interesting one. They have 76 out of 90 aircraft based in the Uk so then need that market. The fall in the Euro and rising prices will affect UK lead demand for all carriers but on a positive note the fall in the value of sterling could make the Uk more attractive for overseas markets thereby cancelling out reductions in the Uk. It will of course vary route by route and the basis of the traffic.
He will go shortly when he can produce some good news to save face. The Company has done well under him and you can't deny his achievements but in the same way Stelios made way for a different culture so too has the time come for a new caring Ryanair and then the competition really should watch out.
Oils is hedged for September and Q3 at $129 and $124 respectively. Oil prices are in decline with the latest price now at $121 and falling from the highs of $145. So now they've hedged at a higher price than the spot. Assuming the falls continue then their competitirs will hedge again as I'm sure Ryanair will at similar levels. The last time Ryanair hedged was at $65. Much as we would all like to see oil prices fall I doubt they will go that low but assuming they settle around the $90 then the impact of fuel on Ryanair is far more significant that legacy carriers.
Ryanair have pushed the limits on credit card charges, baggage etc etc. You can only go so far before Joe Public has had enough and then the charges actually work against you.
The challenge of the Uk is an interesting one. They have 76 out of 90 aircraft based in the Uk so then need that market. The fall in the Euro and rising prices will affect UK lead demand for all carriers but on a positive note the fall in the value of sterling could make the Uk more attractive for overseas markets thereby cancelling out reductions in the Uk. It will of course vary route by route and the basis of the traffic.
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Sometimes I'm able to make use of my basic knowledge of Russian. Look what I've found today on telegraf.lv:
"The situation at the airport Rīga is now deplorable. The reason lies not in the unscheduled flights, it's in the number of workers.
(...)
So, on July 20 they had about ten (!) baggage handlers for the entire airport plus ten ramp agents. And that with 19 incoming and 12 departing flights!
(...)
As a result, even Ryanair pilot decided to help our ramp-agent and loaded the aircraft along with him. As he said - out of compassion. One could wring his shirt from sweat afterwards. The pilot might thought that we have a self-service airport: arriving - unloading - transfering the luggage to passengers - loading - departing. Six tons in half an hour - that much turn-around time gives Ryanair".
By no means should it be acceptable as a common practice, but my respect goes to the pilot for his spontaneous gesture on that day...
"Ситуация в аэропорту Rīga сейчас плачевна. И дело не в незапланированных рейсах, а в количестве работников
(...).
Так вот, 20 июля на весь аэропорт таких грузчиков было около десяти (!) плюс десять рамп-агентов. И это при 19 входящих и 12 вылетающих рейсах!
(...)
В итоге даже пилот авиакомпании Ryanair грузил самолет вместе с нашим рамп- агентом. Как он сказал — из жалости. Его рубашку можно было выжимать. От пота. Пилот реально подумал, что у нас аэропорт самообслуживания: прилетел — разгрузил — отвез багаж пассажирам — загрузил — улетел. Шесть тонн за полчаса — столько времени дается на разворот самолета Ryanair".
(...).
Так вот, 20 июля на весь аэропорт таких грузчиков было около десяти (!) плюс десять рамп-агентов. И это при 19 входящих и 12 вылетающих рейсах!
(...)
В итоге даже пилот авиакомпании Ryanair грузил самолет вместе с нашим рамп- агентом. Как он сказал — из жалости. Его рубашку можно было выжимать. От пота. Пилот реально подумал, что у нас аэропорт самообслуживания: прилетел — разгрузил — отвез багаж пассажирам — загрузил — улетел. Шесть тонн за полчаса — столько времени дается на разворот самолета Ryanair".
(...)
So, on July 20 they had about ten (!) baggage handlers for the entire airport plus ten ramp agents. And that with 19 incoming and 12 departing flights!
(...)
As a result, even Ryanair pilot decided to help our ramp-agent and loaded the aircraft along with him. As he said - out of compassion. One could wring his shirt from sweat afterwards. The pilot might thought that we have a self-service airport: arriving - unloading - transfering the luggage to passengers - loading - departing. Six tons in half an hour - that much turn-around time gives Ryanair".
By no means should it be acceptable as a common practice, but my respect goes to the pilot for his spontaneous gesture on that day...
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According to Bloomberg 7 routes to move from FRL to Bologna...but...
Forli to become base in Mar 09 with 1 aircraft and 6 new routes...and..
Bologna to become base in 2010 with 2 aircraft(rising to 5)..
Strange...
Forli to become base in Mar 09 with 1 aircraft and 6 new routes...and..
Bologna to become base in 2010 with 2 aircraft(rising to 5)..
Strange...
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Okay, I'm backing off. Either my language abilities are too poor, or they are really planning to
- retreat from Forli now, but
- make there (in Forli) a new base as of March 2009
- make a base in Bologna as well, but in 2010
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Officially announced. Bologna to become a base in June 2010, Forli in 2009. Forli to be domestic traffic. All current flights transferred to Bologna.
Very strange decision by FR, but they must know what they are doing!
Very strange decision by FR, but they must know what they are doing!
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Yeah, it's official.
The only explanation I can comprehend (it's my suspicion at least):
Ryanair, Europe’s No. 1 low fares airline today (31st July) announced that it will transfer seven routes from Forli to nearby Bologna from 27th October 2008 which will deliver 800,000 passengers to the airport annually.
In June 2010 Bologna will become Ryanair’s 30th European base with an initial investment of $140m in two aircraft, rising to five aircraft (a total investment of $350m), 25 routes, two million annual passengers, and 2,000 jobs by 2012.
The low fares airline also announced that it will open a base in Forli in March 2009 (the airline’s 29th), investing $70million in one aircraft which will deliver 400,000 passengers, to at least three and up to six new destinations and 400 local jobs.
In June 2010 Bologna will become Ryanair’s 30th European base with an initial investment of $140m in two aircraft, rising to five aircraft (a total investment of $350m), 25 routes, two million annual passengers, and 2,000 jobs by 2012.
The low fares airline also announced that it will open a base in Forli in March 2009 (the airline’s 29th), investing $70million in one aircraft which will deliver 400,000 passengers, to at least three and up to six new destinations and 400 local jobs.
- The routes shifted from FRL to BLQ will be brand new routes (with brand new funding).
- All FRL routes will be new ones (marketing required).
- New bases require new support (both of them).
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What is wrong with Ryanair's bookin engine?
It hasn't been working properly for weeks now. Surely a company like FR should be able to get a decent IT Team to sort it out in a few days / week max? It's ridiculous.
It hasn't been working properly for weeks now. Surely a company like FR should be able to get a decent IT Team to sort it out in a few days / week max? It's ridiculous.
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Spot on, Husky One !
It’s the PFP travel that’s built so much traffic for Ryanair and the other ultra-locos.
In the airline marketing business, PFP stands for Purely for Pleasure.
PFP travellers take a choice based on such low prices that visiting Prague, Perrpignan or Palma becomes an economic alternative to driving down to Margate at £50 per petrol fill, shopping in Lakeside, going out to the cinema and a pizza – or even filling your basket in Aldi.
And PFP is the most fickle and disloyal sector in air travel, besides the most unnecessary contributor to those contentious carbon emissions.
Build your airline on PFP, and it’s built on sand.
It’s not business travel. That will continue, although it’ll take a hit, like it did in the last recession.
It’s not VFR. Marriages, births, deaths, friendships and the rest will still happen. People will continue to Visit their Friends and Relations.
It’s not Holiday Leisure, which covers that annual investment in a family vacation or in exploration. People will work hard to retain that, although they might move down a notch.
It’s PFP, Purely for Pleasure. And it’s easy to do without your regular dose of PFP when the money's tight.
So, that’s the traffic that will disappear first as the recession bites into people’s discretionary incomes.
And that’s the traffic that keeps so many of MOL’s aircraft in the air.
When they evaporate, what’s he going to do to fill his aircraft ? Pay people to fly ?
What an interesting inscription on an airline’s gravestone.
“We relied too much on PFP”.
It’s the PFP travel that’s built so much traffic for Ryanair and the other ultra-locos.
In the airline marketing business, PFP stands for Purely for Pleasure.
PFP travellers take a choice based on such low prices that visiting Prague, Perrpignan or Palma becomes an economic alternative to driving down to Margate at £50 per petrol fill, shopping in Lakeside, going out to the cinema and a pizza – or even filling your basket in Aldi.
And PFP is the most fickle and disloyal sector in air travel, besides the most unnecessary contributor to those contentious carbon emissions.
Build your airline on PFP, and it’s built on sand.
It’s not business travel. That will continue, although it’ll take a hit, like it did in the last recession.
It’s not VFR. Marriages, births, deaths, friendships and the rest will still happen. People will continue to Visit their Friends and Relations.
It’s not Holiday Leisure, which covers that annual investment in a family vacation or in exploration. People will work hard to retain that, although they might move down a notch.
It’s PFP, Purely for Pleasure. And it’s easy to do without your regular dose of PFP when the money's tight.
So, that’s the traffic that will disappear first as the recession bites into people’s discretionary incomes.
And that’s the traffic that keeps so many of MOL’s aircraft in the air.
When they evaporate, what’s he going to do to fill his aircraft ? Pay people to fly ?
What an interesting inscription on an airline’s gravestone.
“We relied too much on PFP”.
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I think FR are worried about the PFP sector. The reason I say this is that over the last couple of weeks I have never had so many 'Ryanair Special Autumn Break' etc. emails from them.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
I am seriously thinking as marking FR as spam. If they can't sort out their booking website, what faith can I have in their marketing?
Hope FR are ok in the long run - too many good staff AND customers.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
I am seriously thinking as marking FR as spam. If they can't sort out their booking website, what faith can I have in their marketing?
Hope FR are ok in the long run - too many good staff AND customers.
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Ryanair are also locked into a massive expansion of aircraft when the market is stalling. Part of this plan is to sell the older B737-800s. This is fundamental to their game plan, remember that. It's all going horribly wrong and he has few friends left.
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With all due respect I think it's unfair to say it's all going horribly wrong. It's just going to be a tough year, for all airlines. I think airlines like WW and LS as well as your tiny LCC's al around euorpe have more to worry about than FR. Just once again it's the most openly discussed because they are such a large airline. Let's remember, this airline carries the most international traffic in the world, I'm sure the people that run FR are not completely stupid and they'll come up with ways to combat the situation.
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rise and fall of MOL
A few years ago everything fell good for MOL. The timing of each hedge was spot on and the buying of planes on the cheap worked just fine. Now everything is going wrong. The trading standards are on his back which has ended the 1p flight. Airports are uping fees and the public have been to lubeck as much as they want. Ryanair cannot change its plans as the planes are on order. The small airstrips cannot give MOL any lower charges. In fact I suspect it could be the tiny airports that are going to go under next.
The Uk is very important to MOL as we are the biggest flyiers in Europe after the irish. It is going to be a bad 5 years at least.
The Uk is very important to MOL as we are the biggest flyiers in Europe after the irish. It is going to be a bad 5 years at least.
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It’s PFP, Purely for Pleasure. And that’s the traffic that keeps so many of MOL’s aircraft in the air.
When they evaporate, what’s he going to do to fill his aircraft ? Pay people to fly?
When they evaporate, what’s he going to do to fill his aircraft ? Pay people to fly?
MOL has created a very efficient, punctual, good working airline. Over a few years its development has been very impressive, no matter how controversial O'Leary's methods (and he himself) were. Unfortunately, the same methods that were so successful in the early period of "Storm and Stress", namely the lowest prices and... not so much else (for the pleasure) are not enough, not any more. This strategy should have already been changed by now - in order to keep filling the aircraft as it used to be before. Frfly, you said "I'm sure the people that run FR are not completely stupid". Of course they aren't. But they lack some subtleness, finesse that might be required right now, in the Phase Two: Keep your old customers, try to win new ones. To get them, FR don't have to discontinue these old good habits pertaining to lowering costs and improving the efficiency. Nevertheless, they have to explore other than "free flights" ways of marketing; they should improve the customer relations, try to enrich the present offer. This inability to switch to other policies and to develop the diverse ways of marketing, is the main reason to be concerned. Many of us who wish FR well, wait for a new vision of Ryanair, a consumer-centered (not just a deal-driven) airline. So far MOL is not giving us any indication of upcoming changes, being rather stubborn and stuck to old methods of just "lowering fees". In my eyes Ryanair plays down the real threats to its very existence, so far being unable to invent an effective solution.
PS. Fighting with the hopeless ryanair.com website is not any PFP activity too.
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Would appear Ryanair website is now off-line for English speakers.
Page only in Polish. Could be the most profitable, highly efficient airline on the planet. But punters unable to book, they will go else where. Ryanair stops becoming the "First-Stop Shop".
If punters with credit cards in hands can't even see whats available then the game is up! Shambles
Page only in Polish. Could be the most profitable, highly efficient airline on the planet. But punters unable to book, they will go else where. Ryanair stops becoming the "First-Stop Shop".
If punters with credit cards in hands can't even see whats available then the game is up! Shambles