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So Aer Lingus has opted for Belfast over Birmingham...Must be something we are all missing. I know its North and Southern Ireland but its still Ireland. I would have thought a Mainland base would have served them better..
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CAA Provisional stats for June
I though I would post a few relating to new routes and a few others: -
Marseille 3031 pax at an average of 89 with a load factor of 65-68%
Galway 891 pax at an average of 34 with a load factor of 44%
Waterford 1534 pax at an average of 31 with a load factor of 46%
Rome 5878 pax at an average of 98 with a load factor of 66%
Lisbon 4399 pax at an average of 100 with a load factor of 67%
Barcelona 7077 pax at an average of 118 with a load factor of 79%
Ibiza 5605 pax at an average of 165 with a load factor of 77%
Dubrovnik 1783 pax at an average of 74 with a load factor of 63%
Warsaw 3685 pax at an average of 108 with a load factor of 73%
Dundee 1043 pax at an average of 11 with a load factor of 27%
Dubai up 7000 averaging 222 or 70% load factor - June is it's bad month
Krakow averaged 107 or 72% load factor and could be ending!!!!
Nice 7092 average 118 or 79%
Prague average 106 or 81% (mainly a 735 now)
The BABY/ZB sun routes averaged between 75 and 90%
The dunces hat goes to Cologne 3162 pax at 75 per flight if all 42 ran
Swiss Zurich showed a big increase and Newark frustrating as ever averaged 161 or 92%.
Overall a good month with those load factors rising, I did not really check the booking engines for yields but Warsaw & Ibiza were cheap at times.
Pete
Marseille 3031 pax at an average of 89 with a load factor of 65-68%
Galway 891 pax at an average of 34 with a load factor of 44%
Waterford 1534 pax at an average of 31 with a load factor of 46%
Rome 5878 pax at an average of 98 with a load factor of 66%
Lisbon 4399 pax at an average of 100 with a load factor of 67%
Barcelona 7077 pax at an average of 118 with a load factor of 79%
Ibiza 5605 pax at an average of 165 with a load factor of 77%
Dubrovnik 1783 pax at an average of 74 with a load factor of 63%
Warsaw 3685 pax at an average of 108 with a load factor of 73%
Dundee 1043 pax at an average of 11 with a load factor of 27%
Dubai up 7000 averaging 222 or 70% load factor - June is it's bad month
Krakow averaged 107 or 72% load factor and could be ending!!!!
Nice 7092 average 118 or 79%
Prague average 106 or 81% (mainly a 735 now)
The BABY/ZB sun routes averaged between 75 and 90%
The dunces hat goes to Cologne 3162 pax at 75 per flight if all 42 ran
Swiss Zurich showed a big increase and Newark frustrating as ever averaged 161 or 92%.
Overall a good month with those load factors rising, I did not really check the booking engines for yields but Warsaw & Ibiza were cheap at times.
Pete
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Krakow seems to end at the end of October, from both MAN and BHX, unless it's simply the case that NE haven't loaded the schedules yet. Not bad loads from either, so it'd be a shame.
There's Coventry and Liverpool to Katowice, and East Mids and Liverpool to Krakow which might explain why.
There's Coventry and Liverpool to Katowice, and East Mids and Liverpool to Krakow which might explain why.
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From the BHX website:
Had the misfortune to do a drop off this afternoon (Sunday 15 July) and the traffic was awful. Took almost 30 minutes from leaving the A45 until I gave up on any plans to park and just dropped my passenger off at the Hermes Road roundabout. My daughter did a pickup there on Friday and the traffic problems queues were similar.
Do the airport management not look out of the window?
I often do a Cork run from BHX, and will be looking for an alternative if this persists - even LHR looks attractive!
Regards
The Airport is satisfied with the way the recent changes to traffic flows at the airport have been managed and it is pleased to report that there have been no major flight delays or traffic congestion problems following the recent changes to the UK threat level.
Do the airport management not look out of the window?
I often do a Cork run from BHX, and will be looking for an alternative if this persists - even LHR looks attractive!
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Hasn't the traffic always been bad on a Sunday which is normally due to the number of flights from Asian destinations?
OP, on several Fridays recently, the Cologne flight has been upgraded due to a B737-800, either Fridays are good loads or they have scheduled maintenance on the B737-700 on Fridays/weekends. However, if it is down to good loads, the other flights during the week must have very poor loads going by those figures.
Fried Chicken
OP, on several Fridays recently, the Cologne flight has been upgraded due to a B737-800, either Fridays are good loads or they have scheduled maintenance on the B737-700 on Fridays/weekends. However, if it is down to good loads, the other flights during the week must have very poor loads going by those figures.
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Cologne
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Yes the HLX was a 738 again, well was going to say last night but I think
it ended up in the early hours!
I have heard Friday and Sunday is good and there must be a lot of room the other days it operates.
As for the approach road, Sunday evening is the one time I have noticed some chaos when I have been driving along the A45. However this is not too surprising considering there is a TOM 762, EK 332 and PK 772 plus the usual rakes of ZB & WW at the same time.
Pete
Yes the HLX was a 738 again, well was going to say last night but I think
it ended up in the early hours!
I have heard Friday and Sunday is good and there must be a lot of room the other days it operates.
As for the approach road, Sunday evening is the one time I have noticed some chaos when I have been driving along the A45. However this is not too surprising considering there is a TOM 762, EK 332 and PK 772 plus the usual rakes of ZB & WW at the same time.
Pete
Last edited by OltonPete; 16th Jul 2007 at 17:51. Reason: wrong day stated
As a fairly regular user of the HLX, I've never personally seen it more than just over half full. Lots of space yes - but concern that they may give it up. I really wonder if it wouldn't be worth a try at making it twice daily (Mon to Fri)and thus more attractive to the business community.
As for the traffic on approach to the airport. Sunday evening has been notoriously pretty bad for several years. Of course, with the present situation it will stretch even further back. One significant contributing factor is the high proportion of Asian families/friends who traditionally come en mass to say their farewells to pax at the airport. It's their strong family culture and I respect it, but it doesn't half increase the congestion.
As for the traffic on approach to the airport. Sunday evening has been notoriously pretty bad for several years. Of course, with the present situation it will stretch even further back. One significant contributing factor is the high proportion of Asian families/friends who traditionally come en mass to say their farewells to pax at the airport. It's their strong family culture and I respect it, but it doesn't half increase the congestion.
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Runway extension go-ahead
The following article is from the Birmingham post:
BIRMINGHAM International Airport will get its long-awaited runway
extension by 2012, it was confirmed today.
The two companies bidding to buy a 48.25 per cent shareholding in BIA
are prepared to enter into a formal agreement to build the 400-metre
extension across the A45 which will cost £120 million and open up
direct flights to China and the west coast of America.
The seven West Midlands district councils have agreed in principle to
allow the Ontario Teachers Pension Plan and Victoria Funds Management
from Australia to acquire the shares, but the two partners will have
to agree a comprehensive BIA development plan setting out a timetable
for new investment.
Birmingham City Council cabinet has backed the share sale, which
members said would safeguard the future of the airport and deliver a
huge boost to the region.
It will put BIA on an equal footing with Manchester and the London
airports, where the length of runways make it possible for long haul
flights to reach their final destination without stopping to refuel.
The benefit to the West Midlands economy is likely to be £1Êbillion
and 16,000 new jobs by 2030, according to figures produced by the
council.
Paul Tilsley, deputy council leader, said: "This is a great outcome
for Birmingham and the region. We have played a significant role in
ensuring the airport continues to be developed."
The runway extension and an international pier will be built at no
additional cost to council tax payers, he promised. Coun Tilsley
added: "We should not forget where the airport was 20 years ago. We
were still virtually flying out of the original hub. Great strides
have been made since then.
The new private sector partners will pay £420 million to buy the BIA
shareholding from Aer Rianta and Macquarie Airports, which announced
it wanted to dispose of its interest earlier in the year.
The seven West Midlands councils will continue to hold a 49 per cent
stake, with the remaining 2.75 per cent remaining with an employee
share scheme.
The agreement represents success for the seven West Midlands
councils. A planning application will be lodged with Solihull Council.
Daza
BIRMINGHAM International Airport will get its long-awaited runway
extension by 2012, it was confirmed today.
The two companies bidding to buy a 48.25 per cent shareholding in BIA
are prepared to enter into a formal agreement to build the 400-metre
extension across the A45 which will cost £120 million and open up
direct flights to China and the west coast of America.
The seven West Midlands district councils have agreed in principle to
allow the Ontario Teachers Pension Plan and Victoria Funds Management
from Australia to acquire the shares, but the two partners will have
to agree a comprehensive BIA development plan setting out a timetable
for new investment.
Birmingham City Council cabinet has backed the share sale, which
members said would safeguard the future of the airport and deliver a
huge boost to the region.
It will put BIA on an equal footing with Manchester and the London
airports, where the length of runways make it possible for long haul
flights to reach their final destination without stopping to refuel.
The benefit to the West Midlands economy is likely to be £1Êbillion
and 16,000 new jobs by 2030, according to figures produced by the
council.
Paul Tilsley, deputy council leader, said: "This is a great outcome
for Birmingham and the region. We have played a significant role in
ensuring the airport continues to be developed."
The runway extension and an international pier will be built at no
additional cost to council tax payers, he promised. Coun Tilsley
added: "We should not forget where the airport was 20 years ago. We
were still virtually flying out of the original hub. Great strides
have been made since then.
The new private sector partners will pay £420 million to buy the BIA
shareholding from Aer Rianta and Macquarie Airports, which announced
it wanted to dispose of its interest earlier in the year.
The seven West Midlands councils will continue to hold a 49 per cent
stake, with the remaining 2.75 per cent remaining with an employee
share scheme.
The agreement represents success for the seven West Midlands
councils. A planning application will be lodged with Solihull Council.
Daza
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Uzbek Gone?
Posted on another forum
"Uzbekistan Airways Cancels All Birmingham " etc etc etc
Obviously not just the "off season" recess.
Aerosvit, Mahan & now Uzbek just leaving Turkmen & the glorified AI
refueling stop.
Could do with JET or some Air India terminating flights, still plenty of
evidence of people flying LHR-DEL and then going by road to ATQ.
Pete
"Uzbekistan Airways Cancels All Birmingham " etc etc etc
Obviously not just the "off season" recess.
Aerosvit, Mahan & now Uzbek just leaving Turkmen & the glorified AI
refueling stop.
Could do with JET or some Air India terminating flights, still plenty of
evidence of people flying LHR-DEL and then going by road to ATQ.
Pete
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http://www.businessworld.ie/livenews.htm?a=1781766
Everything comes to he who waits......Doubters!!!!
Shame Brum lost out again. Maybe when we get that runway extension we can finally get some long haul hubbing....
Everything comes to he who waits......Doubters!!!!
Shame Brum lost out again. Maybe when we get that runway extension we can finally get some long haul hubbing....
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EI
Also reported in the Irish Examiner and: -
http://www.uk-airport-news.info/belf...ews-230707.htm
More importantly not a word on the EI website yet, poor show letting
a decision like this out into the public domain via leaks but I suppose
these things happen.
If the quote from the DUP politician is correct and the NI Executive
will help fund some of the routes then I would imagine that BHX would
have found it difficult to match such an offer.
It is an interesting decision as BFS have Easyjet and what was one
of their last moves at Belfast, to chop the Rome at the end of summer.
A core route, which they can't make pay all-year-round, I wonder if EI
will pick this one up.
Pete
http://www.uk-airport-news.info/belf...ews-230707.htm
More importantly not a word on the EI website yet, poor show letting
a decision like this out into the public domain via leaks but I suppose
these things happen.
If the quote from the DUP politician is correct and the NI Executive
will help fund some of the routes then I would imagine that BHX would
have found it difficult to match such an offer.
It is an interesting decision as BFS have Easyjet and what was one
of their last moves at Belfast, to chop the Rome at the end of summer.
A core route, which they can't make pay all-year-round, I wonder if EI
will pick this one up.
Pete
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BMI Baby Madrid?
Quote from the East Mids thread
"Baby are going to start BHX-MAD"
Anyone else heard this one, rumours were that Madrid was one of
three slots Easy applied for but only took up Geneva.
When is this going to be announced and will there be anymore
routes as well. No rumours locally as such although Madrid &
Berlin have been mentioned.
In the winter schedule there is a gap for one of the six based
aircraft (plus the EDI one operating through) for another route
to be added but a bit tight for a Madrid but maybe possible.
Pete
"Baby are going to start BHX-MAD"
Anyone else heard this one, rumours were that Madrid was one of
three slots Easy applied for but only took up Geneva.
When is this going to be announced and will there be anymore
routes as well. No rumours locally as such although Madrid &
Berlin have been mentioned.
In the winter schedule there is a gap for one of the six based
aircraft (plus the EDI one operating through) for another route
to be added but a bit tight for a Madrid but maybe possible.
Pete
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Would Berlin go down well with LH? Who still own part of the larger BMI group.
I always thought this was the main reason for the lack of German destinations on the BMIbaby map. Didn't they MUC from one of the bases a few years ago and it was stopped because LH got the hump?
I always thought this was the main reason for the lack of German destinations on the BMIbaby map. Didn't they MUC from one of the bases a few years ago and it was stopped because LH got the hump?
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Not heard anything about MAD but it would be a good fit for them dependant upon timings, it could also be a warning shot at Easy as MAD would appear to have been the logical next step for them?
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Berlin
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I believe that there is an agreement that Baby steer clear of both
Germany and Scandinavia. However there have been postings that this agreement ends this winter, whether this is true I do not know.
It would be a bit rich of Lufthansa to oppose Berlin as far as I know they have never signalled any intent of operating the
route but of course any current pax are probably routed via their Dusseldorf service at present.
Munich is one route that could take competition but I would
fully understand LH objecting to Baby operating that one.
Scandinavia is another weak area at BHX, with no Stockholm
or Oslo, which won't be the case soon for an airport just up
the M42!
Pete
I believe that there is an agreement that Baby steer clear of both
Germany and Scandinavia. However there have been postings that this agreement ends this winter, whether this is true I do not know.
It would be a bit rich of Lufthansa to oppose Berlin as far as I know they have never signalled any intent of operating the
route but of course any current pax are probably routed via their Dusseldorf service at present.
Munich is one route that could take competition but I would
fully understand LH objecting to Baby operating that one.
Scandinavia is another weak area at BHX, with no Stockholm
or Oslo, which won't be the case soon for an airport just up
the M42!
Pete
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Parking/Drop-off
Press release just issued today on the bhx website which will be of
interest for any regular users of the airport.
Basically a new drop-off point one minute from the terminal costing £1
for 20 minutes and £3 for every subsequent 15 minutes.
A free 30 minute drop-off/pick-up will be allowed in the long-stay car parks. Then of course you get the free bus to the terminal.
All changes tomorrow 2/8/07.
It sounds fairly reasonable, I know £1 for 20 minutes is a bit cheeky but
considering all the recent events this seems to be fine.
Pete
interest for any regular users of the airport.
Basically a new drop-off point one minute from the terminal costing £1
for 20 minutes and £3 for every subsequent 15 minutes.
A free 30 minute drop-off/pick-up will be allowed in the long-stay car parks. Then of course you get the free bus to the terminal.
All changes tomorrow 2/8/07.
It sounds fairly reasonable, I know £1 for 20 minutes is a bit cheeky but
considering all the recent events this seems to be fine.
Pete
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Why not free for 5 minutes - it only takes a couple of mins to get in and out of the car !
I was there on Sunday afternoon and it was working fine for free !
Its still opportunism - ie making more money out of security issues
'Dog
I was there on Sunday afternoon and it was working fine for free !
Its still opportunism - ie making more money out of security issues
'Dog
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BHX Car Parking
I have an alternative method to reach the Terminal Bldgs without the hastle of waiting for buses (which are nearly always full at 7 am anyway) at some distant car park, in all weathers.
Just ask your driver to drop you off at the adjacent International Rail Station (drop-off point is undercover), catch the free, frequent Air-Rail link (every 2 minutes) and this will take you, in just 60 seconds, right into the heart of Terminal 1. If you have checked in on-line the link also takes you to within 20 mtrs. of the Departure lounge.
NCP can ***** their inflated charges under the disguise of security.
Just ask your driver to drop you off at the adjacent International Rail Station (drop-off point is undercover), catch the free, frequent Air-Rail link (every 2 minutes) and this will take you, in just 60 seconds, right into the heart of Terminal 1. If you have checked in on-line the link also takes you to within 20 mtrs. of the Departure lounge.
NCP can ***** their inflated charges under the disguise of security.