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Watched the documentary. Truthfully - it made me sad. sad for anyone caught up in it all, sad for the passengers who WILL be worried, sad for the decent staff at the airport who do care about doing their best no matter what the circumstances and even sad for people who work with so little pride and self esteem.
It didn't make for comfortable viewing for any of us, did it. I was ashamed of them.
It didn't make for comfortable viewing for any of us, did it. I was ashamed of them.
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Hear hear - in my humble opinion anyone (whether contractor or otherwise and in any industry) who deliberately does not carry out their duties properly and professionally or abuses their position for personal benefit (in this particular case potentially risking the lives of others) deserves to be criticised - if you don't like the criticism then don't do it and get on with what you're actually paid to do. The BHX plc plan to outsource (or whatever you want to call it) and cut costs at whatever it takes clearly is not necessarily working.........
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Hear hear - in my humble opinion anyone (whether contractor or otherwise and in any industry) who deliberately does not carry out their duties properly and professionally or abuses their position for personal benefit (in this particular case potentially risking the lives of others) deserves to be criticised - if you don't like the criticism then don't do it and get on with what you're actually paid to do. The BHX plc plan to outsource (or whatever you want to call it) and cut costs at whatever it takes clearly is not necessarily working.........
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I found the programme fascinating. I never even imagined employees would be doing cocaine whilst on duty. The programme has exposed these idiots, and they will hopefully be dealt with. The attitude of some of the ICTS employees is dispicable, and is a two finger salute to those of us that DO take security seriously. I wanted to throw stuff at the TV!
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I've noticed Swissport have stopped advertising for passenger services staff. Does this mean all of the positions have now been filled for the summer, or is it still worth sending an email?
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I believe that the responce from Poland/Czech & Romania was staggering & all the jobs are now filled, Rumours that they will be requesting a seat in the UN however are all untrue
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BMIBaby Winter 07/08
BMIBaby programme has been released and there are no suprises:-
Geneva up to 9pw with 3 flights on Saturday.
Rome - 3pw
Lisbon - 3pw
Murcia - 4pw
Nice - 1-2 pw
Palma - 2pw
Faro - 3pw
Bordeaux and Marseille not running in Winter as you would expect.
All other desinations as we are now.
Well done BMIBaby, could be a busy Winter.
Ian Farquharson
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Geneva up to 9pw with 3 flights on Saturday.
Rome - 3pw
Lisbon - 3pw
Murcia - 4pw
Nice - 1-2 pw
Palma - 2pw
Faro - 3pw
Bordeaux and Marseille not running in Winter as you would expect.
All other desinations as we are now.
Well done BMIBaby, could be a busy Winter.
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Baby - winter 2007/8
FC
I would take that now, as today's release only has work for six based and the one coming through early morning from Edinburgh.
If it is eight units then hopefully some more new routes - can anyone
confirm?
Some radical cuts this winter with both Malaga and Alicante reducing
to five a week, Bordeaux gone, Palma just twice a week and as expected
no Marseille. However six out of the seven aircraft do work fairly hard with
Barcelona arriving at BHX at 00.55 (Mo-Fr except Nov when the runway is closed Tue, Wed & Thu).
Geneva is a big increase and the other recent new services not too bad
either.
The loss in seats on Alicante might be covered by ZB if they use 321's
on the route this winter, then there is GSM as well if they decide to
go ahead with a base.
Pete
I would take that now, as today's release only has work for six based and the one coming through early morning from Edinburgh.
If it is eight units then hopefully some more new routes - can anyone
confirm?
Some radical cuts this winter with both Malaga and Alicante reducing
to five a week, Bordeaux gone, Palma just twice a week and as expected
no Marseille. However six out of the seven aircraft do work fairly hard with
Barcelona arriving at BHX at 00.55 (Mo-Fr except Nov when the runway is closed Tue, Wed & Thu).
Geneva is a big increase and the other recent new services not too bad
either.
The loss in seats on Alicante might be covered by ZB if they use 321's
on the route this winter, then there is GSM as well if they decide to
go ahead with a base.
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Am very surprised at the radical reductions in frequencies on some Baby routes, am sure NCE was 4pw last winter. Bordeaux operated through the winter last year aswell, although can't imagine the loads would have been that great. Interesting that Rome drops to 3pw, a friend who is crew says this flight is nearly always full - mind you we are approaching summer! Wonder if they'll be doing anything new next year.......
Has anybody heard anything on the supposed new EI base, other airport threads strongly stating their claims (BFS), haven't seen much about it on the BHX thread, would be great for the airport if this did go ahead, lets hope if BHX is in the running then its not another opportunity squandered. Lets not forget GSM either (although would be very surprised if this happens)
Has anybody heard anything on the supposed new EI base, other airport threads strongly stating their claims (BFS), haven't seen much about it on the BHX thread, would be great for the airport if this did go ahead, lets hope if BHX is in the running then its not another opportunity squandered. Lets not forget GSM either (although would be very surprised if this happens)
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I make the Rome 4 a week
Mo, We, Fri at 06.10/12.45 and Sun 15.35/22.05
NCE & BOD were in the timetable last winter as 4 a week and it was never
amended. However They both only operated twice week except Christmas.
Yes this is the first layover of BOD since it started but load factors were poor over the winter period. Nice had reasonable load factors and three
a week should be okay.
There is definitely not work for 8 aircraft in the schedule unless of course
one is spare to cover tech problems.
As for EI, there have been no local based rumours at all but they have made one proactive step at BHX, which is surprising considering the certainty on the Belfast thread.
Pete
Mo, We, Fri at 06.10/12.45 and Sun 15.35/22.05
NCE & BOD were in the timetable last winter as 4 a week and it was never
amended. However They both only operated twice week except Christmas.
Yes this is the first layover of BOD since it started but load factors were poor over the winter period. Nice had reasonable load factors and three
a week should be okay.
There is definitely not work for 8 aircraft in the schedule unless of course
one is spare to cover tech problems.
As for EI, there have been no local based rumours at all but they have made one proactive step at BHX, which is surprising considering the certainty on the Belfast thread.
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Anybody know how the Whoosh Dundee route is doing? I understand inbound loads in the morning aren't too bad (presumably Scots using in DND who previously travelled to EDI or ABZ?).
If Whoosh/WEA introduce the proposed second aircraft, Could we see the aircraft in future routing Dundee-BHX-Newquay-BHX-Dundee as I understand Newquay was originally looked at?
Fried Chicken
If Whoosh/WEA introduce the proposed second aircraft, Could we see the aircraft in future routing Dundee-BHX-Newquay-BHX-Dundee as I understand Newquay was originally looked at?
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May Passenger figures
Reported as 829924 down 0.9%
Asia +3.9%
Non EU +5.4%
Eire +5.3%
EU +.08
Some of individual routes where there has not been significant seat increases: -
Cologne +34.8%
Zurich +46.6%
Glasgow +9.3%
I actually think that this is a fairly decent performance compared to
some of the previous months and the BACON/Flybe shambles.
With Baby and Monarch adding flights at the end of May, June could
be actually up.
The provisional stats for the individual route analysis are due out today and it will be interesting to see these results.
Having said all that, it is still poor when considering the bigger picture and lets hope that EI choose BHX.
Pete
Asia +3.9%
Non EU +5.4%
Eire +5.3%
EU +.08
Some of individual routes where there has not been significant seat increases: -
Cologne +34.8%
Zurich +46.6%
Glasgow +9.3%
I actually think that this is a fairly decent performance compared to
some of the previous months and the BACON/Flybe shambles.
With Baby and Monarch adding flights at the end of May, June could
be actually up.
The provisional stats for the individual route analysis are due out today and it will be interesting to see these results.
Having said all that, it is still poor when considering the bigger picture and lets hope that EI choose BHX.
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May Provisional Route Analysis figures
I won't post all of them but stick to the new routes, poorly
performing ones, low frequency ones or the excellent ones.
Warsaw 3319 pax or 98 per flight - reasonable first full month
Krakow 1811 pax or 113 per flight
Galway 1056 pax 38 pax - I thought this would do better
Waterford 1019 pax or 32 pax - Only started on 15/5
Rome 1577 pax or 99 pax - A good start from 24/5 but it was Bank Hol
Lisbon 807 pax or 81 pax - only commenced 25/5
Marseille 711 pax 89 pax - only commenced 25/5
Barcelona 6578 or 106 pax not bad for such rubbish timings
Ibiza 855 pax or 122 per flight but only started 24/5
Dubrovnik 1633 pax or 58 per flight - lowish but early days
Zurich 10950 - 60 pax (this is a big increase from no extra flights)
Newark 9736 - 157 pax (90%) just show the folly or frustration.
Cologne 3718 - 88 pax - still low and must be under threat
Routes averaging over 70% load factor CPH, EGC, NCE, TLS, HAJ,
Munich, DUB, AMS, FAO, ALC, LEI, BCN, AGP, MJV, PMI, TFS,
PRG, KRK, ISB, EWR, BFS (The only domestic). Cork, Warsaw, FRA,
Knock, Mahon, Zurich & Rome were just under 70%.
Pete
performing ones, low frequency ones or the excellent ones.
Warsaw 3319 pax or 98 per flight - reasonable first full month
Krakow 1811 pax or 113 per flight
Galway 1056 pax 38 pax - I thought this would do better
Waterford 1019 pax or 32 pax - Only started on 15/5
Rome 1577 pax or 99 pax - A good start from 24/5 but it was Bank Hol
Lisbon 807 pax or 81 pax - only commenced 25/5
Marseille 711 pax 89 pax - only commenced 25/5
Barcelona 6578 or 106 pax not bad for such rubbish timings
Ibiza 855 pax or 122 per flight but only started 24/5
Dubrovnik 1633 pax or 58 per flight - lowish but early days
Zurich 10950 - 60 pax (this is a big increase from no extra flights)
Newark 9736 - 157 pax (90%) just show the folly or frustration.
Cologne 3718 - 88 pax - still low and must be under threat
Routes averaging over 70% load factor CPH, EGC, NCE, TLS, HAJ,
Munich, DUB, AMS, FAO, ALC, LEI, BCN, AGP, MJV, PMI, TFS,
PRG, KRK, ISB, EWR, BFS (The only domestic). Cork, Warsaw, FRA,
Knock, Mahon, Zurich & Rome were just under 70%.
Pete
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Old Chesnut - US PHL-BHX?
Apparently a quote in the philly inquirer attributed to US Air VP C A Howlett is that LHR and BHX is on their "wish" or "target" list amongst others (China, Israel etc).
Is this the 3rd time in 4 years that we have heard this?
Pete
Is this the 3rd time in 4 years that we have heard this?
Pete
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CVT Planning application
This is far from over if the recent comments in the press from Chris Orphanou ( CVT Boss) and others are to be believed. CVT will look into putting a new planning application and try once more to get approval for a new terminal. The whole debate makes very interesting reading on the Coventry Airport thread here. To be fair the arguments in there are far more interesting and well put than has been seen in the wider press recently. Those of us who are not commenting in here about it all sure are reading the ongoing debate.
I can't see why anyone in any form of competitive business wouldnt support a planning campaign to ensure their competition didnt get firmly established and develop further. This is big business, not all mates together. BHX fighting it on professional and safety grounds is also good business sense.
I can't see why anyone in any form of competitive business wouldnt support a planning campaign to ensure their competition didnt get firmly established and develop further. This is big business, not all mates together. BHX fighting it on professional and safety grounds is also good business sense.
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Coventry
Yes the Coventry thread is certainly an interesting read and my own
opinions are: -
As an Aviation Enthusiast - Mixed, want BHX to forge ahead but I do not
want to see other airports held back
Business Head - Thumbs up for BHX for fighting their corner
Moral Head - Thumbs down as it comes across as bullying/arrogance and
I am uncomfortable with that.
However the three don't all sit together in the real world and I hope to see Coventry maintain what it has with modest increases until BHX
can't cope (Certainly don't want the TOM operation).
My original opinion was anger and disbelief - the way BHX appeared to turn their noses up at LOCO's (Flybe & was it MyTravellite then Monarch) and the fact why should it be allowed when there is an half empty airport just up the road.
If BHX was bursting at the seems then fair enough but I cooled after
a bit when I saw the TOM schedule and realised that they had no chance of maintaining some of the routes.
TOM now seem to have a tight, fairly full operation in summer but
winter looks a bit lean and I couldn't hazard a guess at new destinations.
Pete
opinions are: -
As an Aviation Enthusiast - Mixed, want BHX to forge ahead but I do not
want to see other airports held back
Business Head - Thumbs up for BHX for fighting their corner
Moral Head - Thumbs down as it comes across as bullying/arrogance and
I am uncomfortable with that.
However the three don't all sit together in the real world and I hope to see Coventry maintain what it has with modest increases until BHX
can't cope (Certainly don't want the TOM operation).
My original opinion was anger and disbelief - the way BHX appeared to turn their noses up at LOCO's (Flybe & was it MyTravellite then Monarch) and the fact why should it be allowed when there is an half empty airport just up the road.
If BHX was bursting at the seems then fair enough but I cooled after
a bit when I saw the TOM schedule and realised that they had no chance of maintaining some of the routes.
TOM now seem to have a tight, fairly full operation in summer but
winter looks a bit lean and I couldn't hazard a guess at new destinations.
Pete
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Hi everybody,
I had an info about Aer Lingus recently. They want to start flights between BHX and a european city this winter (not Ireland or UK). I cannot say which city sorry, but my source is very reliable.
EI seems to talk with BHX as well.
But I don't know if it's for a base.
Wait and see
I had an info about Aer Lingus recently. They want to start flights between BHX and a european city this winter (not Ireland or UK). I cannot say which city sorry, but my source is very reliable.
EI seems to talk with BHX as well.
But I don't know if it's for a base.Wait and see