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jet2 plus
from 28th Oct on all flights to the canaries,
Jet2 will launch jet2 plus,
for the £25 extra on top of your fee:
Security Fast track
Seating in the front cabin
Priority Check in
VIP lounge access
Premium in flight meal (chicken outbound / tuna inbound)
Jet2 will launch jet2 plus,
for the £25 extra on top of your fee:
Security Fast track
Seating in the front cabin
Priority Check in
VIP lounge access
Premium in flight meal (chicken outbound / tuna inbound)
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As far as next summer is concerned is it not true several routes operated at present are to have reduced frequencies ie Prague
Donny forum says prague and Jersey cancelled next year so this would beef up if anything these routes imperticular
Man - 733 to LBA & LBA's & 752 to Man
Sounds very sensible both on a the issue of Cat 2/3 issues and if there getting the loads
Does Begg the Q of 76's thou from LBA Bar good summer weather
Plus these new routes would'nt think they will fill a 752 to start with = will need the rigs to cover rotation/destinations covered within 24hrs say
Donny forum says prague and Jersey cancelled next year so this would beef up if anything these routes imperticular
Man - 733 to LBA & LBA's & 752 to Man
Sounds very sensible both on a the issue of Cat 2/3 issues and if there getting the loads
Does Begg the Q of 76's thou from LBA Bar good summer weather
Plus these new routes would'nt think they will fill a 752 to start with = will need the rigs to cover rotation/destinations covered within 24hrs say
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Mergers
Not Sure where to post is one ??
With the Mergers of Thomson & First Choice. And I believe My Travel & Thomas Cook
Does one feel there may be some Good Fall out for J2 as it were for takeing on routes that may be deemed by there new management as not worthwhile
within there bigger picture etc etc
With the Mergers of Thomson & First Choice. And I believe My Travel & Thomas Cook
Does one feel there may be some Good Fall out for J2 as it were for takeing on routes that may be deemed by there new management as not worthwhile
within there bigger picture etc etc
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"Absolutely nothing !What I was eluding to was that their acquisition may not be proving as straight forward as some perceive."
So what? Procurement issues in this era of corporate beaurocracy, red tape and financial ineptitude are the blight of progress in just about every industry. And all airlines are suffering procurement problems - it's not unique to Jet2. The lack of certain types of aircraft on the global lease market are causing longer waits for new aircraft. In fact, airlines wanting new aircraft in the next 5-7 years unarguably have the biggest headaches of all as demand far outstrips production capacity. Another significant problem for airlines the world over is the ever growing global shortage of pilots. But, everybody's pretty much in the same boat on all counts here.
Mr Skyman - You seem about as shackled to convention as it is possible to be, but in our domestic industry in which that attitude is seemingly endemic, I'm not surprised.
Things change. The Lo-co model WILL evolve in Europe. It's commercially insane to think otherwise. What's more, it's highly likely that Jet2 will make a contribution to fundamental change in the UK and european market far beyond their stature.
It's impossible for the industry to carry on as it is - the route innovation that the companies are currently (and have been for the past decade) cycling through is a finite concept. It's a drawn-out learning curve where all of these companies with a very similar product are collectively learning from each other and contributing to a vast knoweldge-pool. This could well be a commercial gift for those who are savvy enough to learn from it most effectively. And quickest.
The 'winners' will be the ones that push our brand of lo-co (lo-co is definitely not the same the world over, to the extent that lo-co as a term is fast becoming very vague and useless) into new territory and open up doors that have been closed to operators of the current model. I absolutely promise you that this will happen. It's so obvious that I feel condescending in even typing it.
The subject is my vocation and the intricacies of lo-co is my specialism, for what it's worth. Jet2 - with their shortcomings and limitations (as all lo-co's have... some more than others, and each being unique), have already shown a capacity to evolve the model by altering a primary - the primary -feature: type variation. I'm not talking about phasing from one-type to another as others have done. I mean that Jet2 are building a model based on different types for different needs. I know I'm stating the obvious there, but the result is that they are a lo-co, but not as we in the UK know it.
Jet2's prodding and manouevering seems to demonstrate a commercial comprehension beyond that of their competitors - or at least, beyond the dare of their competitors at the moment. On the face of it, more fool the bigger players for still not entirely latching onto what is written in the stars for the industry as a whole. However, I sense their hesitance may be cautionary, and even wise.
It's by no means rosey for Jet2, because they may be the fall guy and although they are showing signs of being a key catalyst for model change, walking through the unchartered territory might kill them. The bigger players maybe holding back, safe in the knowledge that they can committ greater capacity and investment (by way of their size) to the evolved way, should it prove viable. Jet2 could be everyone's guinea pig, which may or may not work out well for them.
The comparisons to VB are clear and definitely commercially founded, if not parallel or faithful to the VB business model as a whole. I also know for a fact that the UK industry is looking and learning a lot from lo-co in Australia and several other key lo-co markets globally. That goes without saying anyway.
I'm entirely unibiased. I don't have a vested interest in Jet2, although I do have a vested interest in the industry - it's how I feed myself and pay my mortgage.
So what? Procurement issues in this era of corporate beaurocracy, red tape and financial ineptitude are the blight of progress in just about every industry. And all airlines are suffering procurement problems - it's not unique to Jet2. The lack of certain types of aircraft on the global lease market are causing longer waits for new aircraft. In fact, airlines wanting new aircraft in the next 5-7 years unarguably have the biggest headaches of all as demand far outstrips production capacity. Another significant problem for airlines the world over is the ever growing global shortage of pilots. But, everybody's pretty much in the same boat on all counts here.
Mr Skyman - You seem about as shackled to convention as it is possible to be, but in our domestic industry in which that attitude is seemingly endemic, I'm not surprised.
Things change. The Lo-co model WILL evolve in Europe. It's commercially insane to think otherwise. What's more, it's highly likely that Jet2 will make a contribution to fundamental change in the UK and european market far beyond their stature.
It's impossible for the industry to carry on as it is - the route innovation that the companies are currently (and have been for the past decade) cycling through is a finite concept. It's a drawn-out learning curve where all of these companies with a very similar product are collectively learning from each other and contributing to a vast knoweldge-pool. This could well be a commercial gift for those who are savvy enough to learn from it most effectively. And quickest.
The 'winners' will be the ones that push our brand of lo-co (lo-co is definitely not the same the world over, to the extent that lo-co as a term is fast becoming very vague and useless) into new territory and open up doors that have been closed to operators of the current model. I absolutely promise you that this will happen. It's so obvious that I feel condescending in even typing it.
The subject is my vocation and the intricacies of lo-co is my specialism, for what it's worth. Jet2 - with their shortcomings and limitations (as all lo-co's have... some more than others, and each being unique), have already shown a capacity to evolve the model by altering a primary - the primary -feature: type variation. I'm not talking about phasing from one-type to another as others have done. I mean that Jet2 are building a model based on different types for different needs. I know I'm stating the obvious there, but the result is that they are a lo-co, but not as we in the UK know it.
Jet2's prodding and manouevering seems to demonstrate a commercial comprehension beyond that of their competitors - or at least, beyond the dare of their competitors at the moment. On the face of it, more fool the bigger players for still not entirely latching onto what is written in the stars for the industry as a whole. However, I sense their hesitance may be cautionary, and even wise.
It's by no means rosey for Jet2, because they may be the fall guy and although they are showing signs of being a key catalyst for model change, walking through the unchartered territory might kill them. The bigger players maybe holding back, safe in the knowledge that they can committ greater capacity and investment (by way of their size) to the evolved way, should it prove viable. Jet2 could be everyone's guinea pig, which may or may not work out well for them.
The comparisons to VB are clear and definitely commercially founded, if not parallel or faithful to the VB business model as a whole. I also know for a fact that the UK industry is looking and learning a lot from lo-co in Australia and several other key lo-co markets globally. That goes without saying anyway.
I'm entirely unibiased. I don't have a vested interest in Jet2, although I do have a vested interest in the industry - it's how I feed myself and pay my mortgage.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7036384.stm
Quite interesting.
Mr. Meeson - new aircraft are needed by Nov. 2009 or your airline will be increasing it's prices!
Good to see that the government has heard the voices and has acted accordingly - come on Cameron - what do you say to that!
Obviously, there is alot to do by 2009 for many airlines, but if LS is wanting to grow at a rate it currently is, then they need to replace their guzzling 733s soon!
I think the 752s would pass the test wouldn't they? Aren't they still the greenest single-isle a/c per seat or something like that on short/medium haul routes? Or is it either the A321/B739ER?
Quite interesting.
Mr. Meeson - new aircraft are needed by Nov. 2009 or your airline will be increasing it's prices!
Good to see that the government has heard the voices and has acted accordingly - come on Cameron - what do you say to that!
Obviously, there is alot to do by 2009 for many airlines, but if LS is wanting to grow at a rate it currently is, then they need to replace their guzzling 733s soon!
I think the 752s would pass the test wouldn't they? Aren't they still the greenest single-isle a/c per seat or something like that on short/medium haul routes? Or is it either the A321/B739ER?
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I've not seen any detail on the proposals, but it all we've got to on is the link above, it states that the tax is;
" to encourage more efficient use of planes"
not
" to encourage use of more efficient planes"
" to encourage more efficient use of planes"
not
" to encourage use of more efficient planes"
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AMS and DUS also added to the S08 from LBA.
The routes are leaking out slowly!
Still MAN and NCL to come!
Also noticed that the EDI-Avignon flights will route via LBA twice a week next summer (Tues&Thurs) of the three weekly flights (other flight will be on Saturday which is still non-stop.
The routes are leaking out slowly!
Still MAN and NCL to come!
Also noticed that the EDI-Avignon flights will route via LBA twice a week next summer (Tues&Thurs) of the three weekly flights (other flight will be on Saturday which is still non-stop.
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Cheapest from the North West is EZY from LPL.
AF, LS and LS are all charging within £100 of each other (when selecting the appropriate flight times).
If you are travelling to Paris next weekend, you have no chance of getting a cheap ticket wherever you fly from!
AF, LS and LS are all charging within £100 of each other (when selecting the appropriate flight times).
If you are travelling to Paris next weekend, you have no chance of getting a cheap ticket wherever you fly from!
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Tickets, not for a jet2 flight but to attend the match, are now exchanging hands for £5000; Market forces or profiteering??
I guess a hotel room would be a tad more expensive than usual if there was one available.
ERB
Tickets, not for a jet2 flight but to attend the match, are now exchanging hands for £5000; Market forces or profiteering??
I guess a hotel room would be a tad more expensive than usual if there was one available.
ERB
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JET2 - NG or not NG?
So,
Having found out that Jet2's quest to get pilots qualified on the 737NG failed before the first recruits had even got past the simulator.......was it the management pulling the plug on progress or had the students become over enthusiastic? Will Jet2 ever get a newish aircraft? Answers (or guesses) on a postcard.....
Having found out that Jet2's quest to get pilots qualified on the 737NG failed before the first recruits had even got past the simulator.......was it the management pulling the plug on progress or had the students become over enthusiastic? Will Jet2 ever get a newish aircraft? Answers (or guesses) on a postcard.....