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No, the new style box does not show the total fare.When you progress to the payment page, a 'Fuel Charge' is added which is in addition to a charge for baggage and seat selection (if required).
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with the share price having fallen by over 75% in less than a year there's trouble . Slots sold to Flybe for cash. Its tough and getting tougher here in the NW. Cut out the underperformers has to be right
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Share price?
Don't worry about the share price dear....its only the city! Current city analysis is 'buy'. With their advance bookings and various charter work from NCL, MAN and LBA this summer you doubting Thomas's can go spin!
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Been looking at Amsterjam
, And price gone right up.
Used to go regular for about £51 Ret, But cheapest now is
over £79 - nothing any cheaper.
I guess all down to fuel increases.
Even a ret to BFS is about £55.
, And price gone right up.Used to go regular for about £51 Ret, But cheapest now is
over £79 - nothing any cheaper.
I guess all down to fuel increases.
Even a ret to BFS is about £55.
share price has bombed
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holiday price compared to flight only
Just been on jet2 site, compared a 'holiday' to algarve with a flight only , using same days and times.
The results for package holiday from man to algarve(faro) 13/03/08 2 pax
holiday 268.00
under occ fee 36.81
flight change 0.20
total 305.00(guess they round it down to nearest pound)
Flight only
fare 219.00
taxes 84.00
total 303.00
Now my point being is that surely holiday or flight only, it still costs the same to fly pax to faro. If this particular accommodation hadnt of charged an under occ fee then it would have worked out cheaper to buy the package rather than the flight, guess what im saying is one automatically assumes its cheaper to buy a flight only. not knocking the airline mostly found j2 to be great, happend to be looking for a break and just thort id compare the two, happend to be a lot closer than i expected..
p.s. Is blk ever likey to see anything new from LS, poss winter/next year or is it too early to speculate?
The results for package holiday from man to algarve(faro) 13/03/08 2 pax
holiday 268.00
under occ fee 36.81
flight change 0.20
total 305.00(guess they round it down to nearest pound)
Flight only
fare 219.00
taxes 84.00
total 303.00
Now my point being is that surely holiday or flight only, it still costs the same to fly pax to faro. If this particular accommodation hadnt of charged an under occ fee then it would have worked out cheaper to buy the package rather than the flight, guess what im saying is one automatically assumes its cheaper to buy a flight only. not knocking the airline mostly found j2 to be great, happend to be looking for a break and just thort id compare the two, happend to be a lot closer than i expected..
p.s. Is blk ever likey to see anything new from LS, poss winter/next year or is it too early to speculate?
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still profitable though
The announcement today indicates that this years pre-tax profit is going to be the same as last year...OK so the shares have dipped but the company as a whole (dart) is still turning a profit and had a turnover of appx £350million last year so I guess it will be roughly the same this year. There was a profit dividend paid on the shares both last summer and last winter, which Easy haven't done yet as far as I recall...
This thread has been full of comments about consolidation in 2008 and retreat from non-profitable routes at MAN, this is presumably the financial reasons for these comments and lets face it it makes sense.
I don't see jet2 "in trouble" and at some point the share price should correct itself to reflect the value of the overall business, lets not forget all shares are down currently and the whole point of shares is that you have to be in for the long term to get a return.
They DO need to get a grip this year on the profitable routes for W08...BLK is the answer!!!
This thread has been full of comments about consolidation in 2008 and retreat from non-profitable routes at MAN, this is presumably the financial reasons for these comments and lets face it it makes sense.
I don't see jet2 "in trouble" and at some point the share price should correct itself to reflect the value of the overall business, lets not forget all shares are down currently and the whole point of shares is that you have to be in for the long term to get a return.
They DO need to get a grip this year on the profitable routes for W08...BLK is the answer!!!
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I also compared purchasing a holiday package to the Algarve from Jet2 Holidays with flight-only plus accommodation from internet agency.
Same flight, same date, same accommodation, same board basis .... Absolutely no comparison on price.
Jet2 Holidays price for 4 adults (2 rooms) June 3rd ... £2,368.
Independently ....
Flights £526.24 including bags, fuel supplement and credit card charge.
Hotel £1,201.06 including credit card charge.
Total £1,727.30
Jet2 Holidays £640.70 more expensive for exactly the same thing.
Same flight, same date, same accommodation, same board basis .... Absolutely no comparison on price.
Jet2 Holidays price for 4 adults (2 rooms) June 3rd ... £2,368.
Independently ....
Flights £526.24 including bags, fuel supplement and credit card charge.
Hotel £1,201.06 including credit card charge.
Total £1,727.30
Jet2 Holidays £640.70 more expensive for exactly the same thing.
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Trading statement
I stand by everything I wrote last night.....
"Trading Statement
Dart Group PLC, the aviation and distribution group, updates on current trading ahead of year end on 31 March 2008.
Whilst Fowler Welch-Coolchain, the Group's distribution business, continues to perform well, winter trading in the aviation business has not met expectations.
In the winter season, the forecast growth in passenger volumes has not been achieved and similar volumes to last year are now expected to be carried. The resultant lower yield and load factors have reduced the winter revenue expectations by about 6% with a consequential reduction in the Group's expected pre-tax profits for the year."
Still think that the summer will be OK.....share price is a bargain!
"Trading Statement
Dart Group PLC, the aviation and distribution group, updates on current trading ahead of year end on 31 March 2008.
Whilst Fowler Welch-Coolchain, the Group's distribution business, continues to perform well, winter trading in the aviation business has not met expectations.
In the winter season, the forecast growth in passenger volumes has not been achieved and similar volumes to last year are now expected to be carried. The resultant lower yield and load factors have reduced the winter revenue expectations by about 6% with a consequential reduction in the Group's expected pre-tax profits for the year."
Still think that the summer will be OK.....share price is a bargain!
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Well that proves the point that they are neither expensive nor cheap!
Baring in mind that in take-off's post the flight is flying very soon, so hence the seat price on Jet2.com will be very high, whereas on Jet2holidays they will take a certain unit of seats at an undisclosed price.
I guess depending upon how things go this summer we may see more cut backs on city routes. Personally I think in the long term it would be healthier for Jet2 to loose a few 737's and concentrate on the high density sun routes. I'm really think of Leeds to be honest, we have got no idea financially which routes are profitable but i imagine filling a 757 to ALC is more profitable than a half full 737 to BFS!
As much as I support Jet2, I think its time for them take a back seat on the city routes and certainly at LBA let Ryanair step in and have a real go at them. In the long run this would benefit everyone, Jet2 should have a slicker more profitable 'bucket and spade' operation and Ryanair will have yet another place to put those endless 737's.
Baring in mind that in take-off's post the flight is flying very soon, so hence the seat price on Jet2.com will be very high, whereas on Jet2holidays they will take a certain unit of seats at an undisclosed price.
I guess depending upon how things go this summer we may see more cut backs on city routes. Personally I think in the long term it would be healthier for Jet2 to loose a few 737's and concentrate on the high density sun routes. I'm really think of Leeds to be honest, we have got no idea financially which routes are profitable but i imagine filling a 757 to ALC is more profitable than a half full 737 to BFS!
As much as I support Jet2, I think its time for them take a back seat on the city routes and certainly at LBA let Ryanair step in and have a real go at them. In the long run this would benefit everyone, Jet2 should have a slicker more profitable 'bucket and spade' operation and Ryanair will have yet another place to put those endless 737's.
Last edited by A320fan; 29th Feb 2008 at 19:15.
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Not necessarily correct on the ALC vs BFS thing.
It's all about yield. BFS is a short route with business passengers who (probably) book later & (probably) pay higher fares.
ALC is a longer flight (more fuel - higher costs.) In terms of price per mile travelled the half full BFS could potentially make more!
They must think the LBA-BFS market is worth the effort as they are increasing the route to 3 a day on weekdays this summer.
Not necessarily correct on the ALC vs BFS thing.
It's all about yield. BFS is a short route with business passengers who (probably) book later & (probably) pay higher fares.
ALC is a longer flight (more fuel - higher costs.) In terms of price per mile travelled the half full BFS could potentially make more!
They must think the LBA-BFS market is worth the effort as they are increasing the route to 3 a day on weekdays this summer.
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Not necessarily correct on the ALC vs BFS thing.
It's all about yield
It's all about yield
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Actually it's all about revenue/contribution. High yield with few pax is a failure. Loads of pax at low yield is a failure. It's all about the right mix of fares at a high enough yield with a high enough load factor with ancillary revenue thrown in.