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The summer weekend routes from MAN have launched this weekend.
Any word on how the new routes from regional airports are performing?
Both IAG and BA seem keen to explore further opportunities.
Any word on how the new routes from regional airports are performing?
Both IAG and BA seem keen to explore further opportunities.
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The CFE fleet is the same size this year vs. last so should see good numbers with improved utilisation. They have pretty much maxed out at LCY, growth if it comes will be elsewhere I suspect.
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LCY-MAN and MAN-IBZ had the business cabin full, Y was well patronaged. Not seen what today's loads were like.
Apparently the 'weekend base' will continue into winter with a mix of ski/beach and city routes.
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My mistake I meant to type 19 May rather than 19 April.
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Let us suppose BA do want to buy Flybe and merge it into Cityflyer
How would they make it profitable when Flybe are struggling ?
Why would it work now when BA were so keen to offload their operations at places like Birmingham and Manchester 10 years ago ?
How would one reconcile the pay structure of Cityflyer (based on higher London City fares) with the lower pay structure in Flybe that comes from lower fares at provincial airports without causing industrial strife or destroying profit margins ?
Finally do BA really want to be anything other than London Airways given that their focus is to be a premium airline for long haul which is dependent on a large number of business passengers willing to pay high fares that happen to be mainly in London and rare in the provinces ?
How would they make it profitable when Flybe are struggling ?
Why would it work now when BA were so keen to offload their operations at places like Birmingham and Manchester 10 years ago ?
How would one reconcile the pay structure of Cityflyer (based on higher London City fares) with the lower pay structure in Flybe that comes from lower fares at provincial airports without causing industrial strife or destroying profit margins ?
Finally do BA really want to be anything other than London Airways given that their focus is to be a premium airline for long haul which is dependent on a large number of business passengers willing to pay high fares that happen to be mainly in London and rare in the provinces ?
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DJ6 Your suggestion is not so far fetched considering IAG / BA held a 15 % share of Flybe until recently, it is possible they would buy the outfit back. I assume that previous Flybe debt issues have been resolved ?
It is not so much what BA want now but how IAG see the future? However, I cannot see it happening as to many of the Flybe destinations for onward travel are mainly with competitors in Europe.
It is not so much what BA want now but how IAG see the future? However, I cannot see it happening as to many of the Flybe destinations for onward travel are mainly with competitors in Europe.
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BA are not a "premium" airline for long haul, they're really, really not! They pretend to be at a branding level but the hard product is not stellar. BA are cherry picking parts of this market to keep CFE busy, they sold the rest for a good reason. BA, like all big companies have a certain way of doing things. One of their fortes is losing money on anything outside of London. They're quite old fashioned and certainly not an agile competitor, they don't have the hunger of an EZY or FR to make an impact and carve out a market.
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HZ123 + Skipness - my post was in response to cs, trying to make the point that there are some major reasons as to why BA would not want Flybe and would find any potential acquisition of Flybe highly problematic, particularly when there are far bigger fish with greater benefit (eg Finnair) to be considered for acquisition instead
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CJ flights to and from LCY today seem to be generally OK without severe delays, apart from a departure to TXL, CJ will probably be quite pleased with the first weekend higher utilisation operation from a schedule perspective.