BA Cityflyer

[davidjohnson6]

Last year ACL let the cat out of the bag about Flybe opening routes at London City. They've probably changed their policies since then...

[Skipness One Echo]

Well LCY-EXT is doing remarkably well (he lied.....) so I suspect the Newquay businessman must have his thrice daily CFE ER7 all ready to go......

Launching in Feb, presumably ski season destination is a little late?

[cornishsimon]

Well LCY-EXT is doing remarkably well (he lied.....) so I suspect the Newquay businessman must have his thrice daily CFE ER7 all ready to go......




Well even you must realise that im jesting Skippy!


However the numbers on NQY-LGW on a DH8 have offered up much better loads than LCY-EXT has ever offered! Some of that will be down to connectivity at LGW, however the NQY-STN BE route also offered half decent loads for a one daily!




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[virginblue]

Launching in Feb, presumably ski season destination is a little late?

Ski destination at twice daily ?

BSL has crossed my mind. BA would probably finish Skywork in no time. Other than that, maybe another go at VIE or TXL that both failed with Star A* carriers? Can't think of much else that has not already been tried by BA and subsequently bombed...

[Wingman1000]

I would think potential destinations for a double daily service could be: MUC, CPH, BMA, OSL, VIE, BER?
But if the route will start already in February, an annoucement can be expected soon.

[Flightrider]

New route

As well as holding slots at LCY for a new route, BACF is holding slots at another airport for a new route to LCY. No surprises for guessing where - Belfast City. 3 x daily E170. They really have taken a dislike to Flybe, haven't they....

[virginblue]

Given the recent influx of additional routes at BHD - aren't they fairl restrained when it comes to stands? Wonder how they can accommodate the ever inreasing number of flights without logistical nightmares.

[Brovine]

WHBM: the additional masks are every other row on alternating sides of the aircraft, more or less, if I'm remembering correctly.

Club meals are bigger/better (a bit) than economy ones. For example, the club hot breakfast gets extra bacon, a bit of white pudding, and I think a bit of tomato.

As for the leased Cello - scheduled hangar maintenance cover, nothing more. Cello's G-LENM, WDL's D-AWBA and D-AMGL, and Jota's G-SMLA are all frequent visitors to London City for various different reasons including that sort of scheduled cover.

The Skyworks flights seem popular enough on Dorniers (and Darwin's S2000s) but I don't know if they'd provide enough passengers to fill an E-Jet from the little I've seen - I'm sure someone here has numbers though!

[BAladdy]

BACF have made some further changes to there S16 schedule.

Angers - Flights will resume 2 x weekly from 28MAR16, Frequency will increase to 3 x weekly during May and will then increase to 4 x weekly for June, July and August before returning to 2 x weekly for September and October. Flights will operate using a mix of E170 and S2000 aircraft. The route operated 2 x weekly during S15 and commenced operation later in mid May.

Nice - Flights will increase from up to 9 x weekly in S15 to up to 12 x weekly during S16.

Quimper - Seasonal service resumes 19MAY16 operating 3 x weekly through until 27JUN16. From 28JUN16 the frequency increases to 4 x weekly. Last seasonal service is planned to operate 04SEP16. Flights will operate using a mix of E170 and E190 aircraft. Flights operated up to 3 x weekly during S15

[stab3.5up]

Any truth in the rumour mill around BHD that a LCY is on the cards early new year?

[dantheflyboy]

I do hope not! Personally think having two airlines on the lcy-bhd route would be an over kill and flybe probably bow out first leaving higher fares with BA flyer which would kill off the leisure traffic leaving business loads only. In the long term probably losing both airlines. Anyone else feel this way?

[stab3.5up]

I understood from rumour control that it was to start in new year but could be wrong.

[flying officer kite]

I've heard 3 times daily, with listed departure times.

Flybe would of course be the first to drop out, but that doesn't mean an end to the LCY leisure market. I often use LCY with Cityflyer from other airports where there is no competition, and prices are most acceptable. Also if making a connection I would sooner pick LCY over LHR.

[BAladdy]

BA will take delivery of a new E190SR during May 2016. The aircraft will be used to add additional frequency to summer season routes. A E190SR will also replace the T3 S2000 currently operating flights to DUS from early S16.

http://www.wharf.co.uk/news/ba-bring...e-and-10431533

http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...-by-50-percent

[virginblue]

50 per cent more seats for DUS as alluded to in the articles means an E70 which seems more sensible - moving an E70 to an E90 route and replacing the S20 with an E70 on the DUS route.

[WHBM]

Originally Posted by BAladdy

Nice - Flights will increase from up to 9 x weekly in S15 to up to 12 x weekly during S16.

What chances for Nice to go year round, now it's double daily in the summer ? We have business contacts on the Riviera who when coming to London use LCY for its convenience in the 8 months it operates, but drop back, believe it or not, to Easyjet at Gatwick in the winter.

Personally think having two airlines on the lcy-bhd route would be an over
kill and flybe probably bow out first leaving higher fares with BA flyer which
would kill off the leisure traffic leaving business loads only.

Maybe so, but Flybe only have themselves to blame. I've used the BHD route a couple of times now, and used to be more regular when Scot Airways operated it as part of Cityjet, but the Flybe product is not really a business calibre one suited to the LCY market. There's no provided catering, and the pay-on-board is so poor that I just skip it, and go into the Costa in BHD on arrival. For all that the BA breakfast may be derided, if you've been up since 0430 to get the flight it's very welcome, along with a drink on the evening flight home. Not really LCY market service standards. Furthermore, when I get to my meeting in Belfast, as soon as I say I came on Flybe there's a race for who can be first to say "you mean Fly Maybe". Actually they have never let me down, but it's an unfortunate reputation to have in your core market at the other end of the route, and I'm aware that the Q400 has had a long period of mechanical issues with them.

Cityflyer crews are worked hard as you saw on the Palma flight , this also
extends to the Ibiza, and Malaga flights ... The bucket and spade routes
need a third crew member onboard but cityflyer management are 100% against it

I agree absolutely, especially as (by their accents) it sounds like an Edinburgh crew in the middle of a 4-sector day. You must be zonked at the end of it.

[BAladdy]

BACF plan to increase the frequency on there LCY-IOM service to up to 27 x weekly for S16. That is compared to 19 x weekly during S15.

BACF plan to use a E170 to operate some of the additional frequencies. BACF currently operated a 50-seat Saab 2000 turboprop leased from T3 to operate the route.

British Airways to increase flights between London City and Isle Of Man - Business Traveller

[virginblue]

So will the Saab operation reduced to just one aircraft?

[BAladdy]

So will the Saab operation reduced to just one aircraft?

Looks like it will be 2 Saab aircraft operating for BACF until early September. The aircraft will be used to operate to ANE. BGC, DUS and IOM during this time. Saab ops on the DUS route are shown as continuing through until 05SEP when a E170 will replace the S2000.

Not sure if BACF plan to return one of the Saab's to T3 at this point. I think it would be a good choice of aircraft to open up another new route, maybe to somewhere like BHD or BSL.

[OntimeexceptACARS]

G-LCYV

See that G-LCYV, ex Republic Airways machine, is on delivery today. Is this in addition to the one due next May?