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Old 20th Apr 2017, 07:48
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TAP are starting LIS-LCY, will CJ start a LCY-LIS night stopper with E170?
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Old 19th May 2017, 09:18
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The summer weekend routes from MAN have launched this weekend.

Any word on how the new routes from regional airports are performing?

Both IAG and BA seem keen to explore further opportunities.
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Old 19th May 2017, 14:53
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Originally Posted by richardwpprn View Post
TAP are starting LIS-LCY, will CJ start a LCY-LIS night stopper with E170?
It was actually announced on the 19 March 2017 but it seems all the travel related websites have announced it today as in 19 April 2017.
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Old 19th May 2017, 18:16
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Originally Posted by canberra97 View Post
It was actually announced on the 19 March 2017 but it seems all the travel related websites have announced it today as in 19 April 2017.
This is the 19th May....

The CFE fleet is the same size this year vs. last so should see good numbers with improved utilisation. They have pretty much maxed out at LCY, growth if it comes will be elsewhere I suspect.
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Old 19th May 2017, 19:44
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Originally Posted by nguba View Post
....Both IAG and BA seem keen to explore further opportunities.
My guess is weekend flights to TFS/ LPA/ ACE/ FNC and ski destinations are highly likely for winter 17/18
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Old 19th May 2017, 21:05
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Originally Posted by nguba View Post
The summer weekend routes from MAN have launched this weekend.

Any word on how the new routes from regional airports are performing?

Both IAG and BA seem keen to explore further opportunities.
MAN reportedly off to a flyer.

LCY-MAN and MAN-IBZ had the business cabin full, Y was well patronaged. Not seen what today's loads were like.

Apparently the 'weekend base' will continue into winter with a mix of ski/beach and city routes.
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Old 19th May 2017, 23:38
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo View Post
This is the 19th May....

The CFE fleet is the same size this year vs. last so should see good numbers with improved utilisation. They have pretty much maxed out at LCY, growth if it comes will be elsewhere I suspect.
My mistake I meant to type 19 May rather than 19 April.
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Old 20th May 2017, 06:03
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I so wish they would look into the possibility of SOU. Give flybe a kick up the arse and tap into untouched / under served destinations
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Old 20th May 2017, 12:13
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GCIlover

I whole heartedly agree with your comment.
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Old 20th May 2017, 12:13
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Good to hear MAN is doing well.

SOU sounds like a good opportunity. There must be a very good Executive Club catchment in the area.
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Old 20th May 2017, 12:16
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Good to hear MAN is doing well.

SOU sounds like a good opportunity. There must be a very good Executive Club catchment in the area.
Yes including myself, I would love to see BA City Flyer adding SOU as I personally think they would do well.
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Old 20th May 2017, 12:30
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British Regional as a BA franchise used to own the SOU market after inheriting a decent operation built by Loganair. The wheel turns?
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Old 20th May 2017, 12:39
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British Regional as a BA franchise used to own the SOU market
Yep, and used to fly 145's to the likes of BRU, FRA, ZRH, which SOU could really do with today :-(
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Old 20th May 2017, 20:41
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What's being described is BA buying up flybe and merging it into cityflyer ?


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Old 21st May 2017, 00:25
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Let us suppose BA do want to buy Flybe and merge it into Cityflyer
How would they make it profitable when Flybe are struggling ?
Why would it work now when BA were so keen to offload their operations at places like Birmingham and Manchester 10 years ago ?
How would one reconcile the pay structure of Cityflyer (based on higher London City fares) with the lower pay structure in Flybe that comes from lower fares at provincial airports without causing industrial strife or destroying profit margins ?
Finally do BA really want to be anything other than London Airways given that their focus is to be a premium airline for long haul which is dependent on a large number of business passengers willing to pay high fares that happen to be mainly in London and rare in the provinces ?
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Old 21st May 2017, 07:49
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DJ6 Your suggestion is not so far fetched considering IAG / BA held a 15 % share of Flybe until recently, it is possible they would buy the outfit back. I assume that previous Flybe debt issues have been resolved ?

It is not so much what BA want now but how IAG see the future? However, I cannot see it happening as to many of the Flybe destinations for onward travel are mainly with competitors in Europe.
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Old 21st May 2017, 08:08
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BA are not a "premium" airline for long haul, they're really, really not! They pretend to be at a branding level but the hard product is not stellar. BA are cherry picking parts of this market to keep CFE busy, they sold the rest for a good reason. BA, like all big companies have a certain way of doing things. One of their fortes is losing money on anything outside of London. They're quite old fashioned and certainly not an agile competitor, they don't have the hunger of an EZY or FR to make an impact and carve out a market.
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Old 21st May 2017, 08:22
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Originally Posted by LAX_LHR View Post
MAN reportedly off to a flyer......

.....Apparently the 'weekend base' will continue into winter with a mix of ski/beach and city routes.
It'll be interesting to see if Friday will be part of the MAN weekend in the winter.
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Old 21st May 2017, 08:52
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HZ123 + Skipness - my post was in response to cs, trying to make the point that there are some major reasons as to why BA would not want Flybe and would find any potential acquisition of Flybe highly problematic, particularly when there are far bigger fish with greater benefit (eg Finnair) to be considered for acquisition instead
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Old 21st May 2017, 19:29
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CJ flights to and from LCY today seem to be generally OK without severe delays, apart from a departure to TXL, CJ will probably be quite pleased with the first weekend higher utilisation operation from a schedule perspective.
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