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Well the aircraft only sit idle for 24 hours due to LCY shutting at lunchtime saturday and reopening sunday lunchtime so thats not nearly 2 days!
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Care to elaborate on that AirLCY?
Also, are we looking at expanding the AMS service during summer 2011?
The first draft slot allocation list from AMS has been released and there's a 536 slots increase that's been awarded, nearly half the current operation!
historic, requested, allocated.
BA CityFlyer CJ 1204 1740 1740
Doesn't have to mean anything yet but why request it otherwise?
These slots are different from the mainline ones. Mainline goes from 4500 to 5100 slots)
Could it mean another 1 or 2 daily rotations?
Cityjet/KLM/Air France/Scot Airways etc operates around 8 or 9 flights a day between LCY and AMS with 2760 slots. (down from 2790) But that total must surely also include there other destinatins ex AMS. That is if WX falls under the old VLM still. If they fall under KLM themselfs it's impossible to get a breakdown.
Also, are we looking at expanding the AMS service during summer 2011?
The first draft slot allocation list from AMS has been released and there's a 536 slots increase that's been awarded, nearly half the current operation!
historic, requested, allocated.
BA CityFlyer CJ 1204 1740 1740
Doesn't have to mean anything yet but why request it otherwise?
These slots are different from the mainline ones. Mainline goes from 4500 to 5100 slots)
Could it mean another 1 or 2 daily rotations?
Cityjet/KLM/Air France/Scot Airways etc operates around 8 or 9 flights a day between LCY and AMS with 2760 slots. (down from 2790) But that total must surely also include there other destinatins ex AMS. That is if WX falls under the old VLM still. If they fall under KLM themselfs it's impossible to get a breakdown.
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BA Cityflyer took delivery of it's 11th E-Jet (5 170's & 6 190's), and also the 700th Embraer E-Jet, on November 5th 2010. It was the last of the original firm order. 2 more are due from the options taken, they are due for delivery in April and June 2011.
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Allegedly EDI-LCY is going to be increased to 10 flights a day with the arrival of the new aircrafts. (currently at 7) Not yet sure if it's after the arrival of 'YO'.
An 'YM' had indeed a tow bar incident at EDI.
An 'YM' had indeed a tow bar incident at EDI.
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... Heard that it was a 'full evac' on YM after the incident.
What are BA going to do. This isnt the first time that an aircraft (BA or BACF) has been involved in a ground incident in EDI in recent times. They just keep happening.
Safety and training appear to be severely compromised.
Lets hope that it doesnt get any more serious than 'taxiing over a tow-bar'
What are BA going to do. This isnt the first time that an aircraft (BA or BACF) has been involved in a ground incident in EDI in recent times. They just keep happening.
Safety and training appear to be severely compromised.
Lets hope that it doesnt get any more serious than 'taxiing over a tow-bar'
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Don't know the details but 'YM' is back up and running so damage couldn't have been that substantial in the end. Haven't heard about the full evac. Can't see any reason to do that aswell from what I know.
I find the groundguys at EDI to be quite good actually. Unfortunately things keep happening.
I find the groundguys at EDI to be quite good actually. Unfortunately things keep happening.
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Some more detail about S11 is starting to emerge.
BA has requested slots at LCY for;
- 2 flights per day to Munich
- new early flight to Zurich (0700 departure)
- 3 flights per week to Sofia (if true we can perhaps expect a reduction of LHR-SOF frequency to be announced?)
- 3 flights per week to Keflavik
- Milan Linate
- Venice. (summer leisure destination aka PMI/IBZ)
- 10 x daily EDI
- 5 or 6 times a day AMS. (rumor)
BA has requested slots at LCY for;
- 2 flights per day to Munich
- new early flight to Zurich (0700 departure)
- 3 flights per week to Sofia (if true we can perhaps expect a reduction of LHR-SOF frequency to be announced?)
- 3 flights per week to Keflavik
- Milan Linate
- Venice. (summer leisure destination aka PMI/IBZ)
- 10 x daily EDI
- 5 or 6 times a day AMS. (rumor)
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10 x EDI! not surprised, all the E190's I have been on lately have been pretty full up.
Think BA are must be eating Cityjets lunch, about time Cityjet thought of upgrading their fleet.
(although I did have to put up with an ancient Titan 146 a few weeks ago coming back from Glasgow as one of the shiny new Embraers had gone tech)
Think BA are must be eating Cityjets lunch, about time Cityjet thought of upgrading their fleet.
(although I did have to put up with an ancient Titan 146 a few weeks ago coming back from Glasgow as one of the shiny new Embraers had gone tech)
Back when Scot Airways actually ran the Edinburgh route themselves the service was second-to-none and they were real competition for BA. When CityJet took their operation over these standards were steadily lost to corporate pennypinching from (ultimately) Paris. They steadily economised themselves right out of the market.
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Yeah, the EDI's are supposedly going back to pre-recession levels.
Both SOF and KEF puzzle me and to be honest I can't see those materialize. Both seem way out of reach from LCY.
SOF is about 1130nm and KEF is about 1075nm so roughly 2hr45 min away. WAW was rumored as well and is similar to a MAD or PMI.
MUC would be quite a bold move to compete with LH head on.
Both SOF and KEF puzzle me and to be honest I can't see those materialize. Both seem way out of reach from LCY.
SOF is about 1130nm and KEF is about 1075nm so roughly 2hr45 min away. WAW was rumored as well and is similar to a MAD or PMI.
MUC would be quite a bold move to compete with LH head on.
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DutchBird-757:
When carriers apply for slots, they are able to 'hide' the true destination of the planned route if they wish, either by using a generic code for a non-existant airport, or often by filing a misnomer.
The KEF and SOF I believe are beyond the range (non-stop) of the BACF Embraers from LCY (that is, without a very significant payload reduction) and if you can see the full slots data you will also be able to see that, given the departure and return arrival times requested, the aircraft would never be able to make it there and back to these points in the allotted time.
This is just someone at BACF trying to wind us up. Possibly the filing for MUC is similar, to see what LH's reaction would be....I think you will also find that they haven't requested slots at the other end of these routes, which is something of a telltale sign!
When carriers apply for slots, they are able to 'hide' the true destination of the planned route if they wish, either by using a generic code for a non-existant airport, or often by filing a misnomer.
The KEF and SOF I believe are beyond the range (non-stop) of the BACF Embraers from LCY (that is, without a very significant payload reduction) and if you can see the full slots data you will also be able to see that, given the departure and return arrival times requested, the aircraft would never be able to make it there and back to these points in the allotted time.
This is just someone at BACF trying to wind us up. Possibly the filing for MUC is similar, to see what LH's reaction would be....I think you will also find that they haven't requested slots at the other end of these routes, which is something of a telltale sign!
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Thanks Globetrotter79. I wasn't aware how the process worked. Is there somewhere were we can see what's being requested at the UK end?
I'm guessing we'll see Oslo, Prague and Venice. Pure speculation on my part.
I'm guessing we'll see Oslo, Prague and Venice. Pure speculation on my part.
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This is just someone at BACF trying to wind us up. Possibly the filing for MUC is similar, to see what LH's reaction would be....I think you will also find that they haven't requested slots at the other end of these routes, which is something of a telltale sign!
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BACF have applied for slots (with the CJ code) at FRA for an EMB-190 operated LCY service next summer (EMB-170 on Sundays). Some of the slots have been 'cleared'
Clearly they are keeping their options open
Clearly they are keeping their options open
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BACF have applied for slots (with the CJ code) at FRA for an EMB-190 operated LCY service next summer (EMB-170 on Sundays). Some of the slots have been 'cleared'