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Marra123 should both A330 aircraft be on the ground at the same time, then I suppose EK will get the airbridge and Monarch will park remote. With such a high prestige route and airline like EK the airport are going to want to do things right.
Stands
When the new stands are complete, what size aircraft will they be capable of handling? And exactly what aircraft will be nightstopping, as Jet2 still seem undecided what they will be basing here. Lets also bear in mind that aircraft such as Eastern can share certain stands and NCL must be available as a diversion point, so surely it cannot be at full capacity during the nightor can it? Not sure how that works, though previously NCL has used the taxiway as temporary parking for diverted aircraft!
I am presuming that aircraft parked on the southside cannot be used for regular pax ops, as pax coaches would be unable to reach the a/c unless it is being handled by Samson?
NCL really does need some investment on a number of areas, when such an increase in operations is occurring.
More pax coaches for remote departures. A/C such as 757 usually get allocated 2 buses, but pax have to wait on a/c while bus 1 drops off at terminal and returns.
The pier area is cold, grey and a bit shabby. Why not have an open pier area like other airports, now that arrivals and departures are separate.
The immigration area is now quite small and inadequate at busy times.
Stands
When the new stands are complete, what size aircraft will they be capable of handling? And exactly what aircraft will be nightstopping, as Jet2 still seem undecided what they will be basing here. Lets also bear in mind that aircraft such as Eastern can share certain stands and NCL must be available as a diversion point, so surely it cannot be at full capacity during the nightor can it? Not sure how that works, though previously NCL has used the taxiway as temporary parking for diverted aircraft!
I am presuming that aircraft parked on the southside cannot be used for regular pax ops, as pax coaches would be unable to reach the a/c unless it is being handled by Samson?
NCL really does need some investment on a number of areas, when such an increase in operations is occurring.
More pax coaches for remote departures. A/C such as 757 usually get allocated 2 buses, but pax have to wait on a/c while bus 1 drops off at terminal and returns.
The pier area is cold, grey and a bit shabby. Why not have an open pier area like other airports, now that arrivals and departures are separate.
The immigration area is now quite small and inadequate at busy times.
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Jet2 confirmed based units as 2x 737s (Prob both QCs as new mail route starts in Aug) and 2x 757 with the flightline 146 as well so 5 in total.
Im not sure about operations from southside, I have heard rumours of Jet2 boarding flights over there but not sure if its true.
Just for info this looks like the provisional copy of the programme from jet2
737-300
MON KRK ORK
TUE MAH LEI
WED PSA
THU ORK AGP
FRI KRK ORK
SAT PSA KRK
SUN LEI ORK AMS
737-300QC
MON AMS PSA AMS (STN MAIL RUN)
TUE AMS PMI AMS (STN MAIL RUN)
WED AMS PMI AMS (STN MAIL RUN)
THU AMS VLC AMS (STN MAIL RUN)
FRI AMS PSA AMS (STN MAIL RUN)
SAT AMS VLC MAH
SUN VLC AGP
757-200
MON PMI
TUE AGP TFS
WED FREE
THU PMI
FRI PMI TFS
SAT PMI
SUN PMI
757-200
MON MJV
TUE MJV
WED MJV
THU MJV
FRI MJV
SAT MJV AGP
SUN MJV
146-200
MON LGW LGW LGW
TUE LGW LGW LGW
WED LGW LGW BGO LGW
THU LGW LGW LGW
FRI LGW LGW BGO LGW
SAT LGW ORK BGO
SUN LGW
Quite busy compared to last year!
This should be the final copy of the programme but I wouldnt be suprised to see a bit of tweaking now and then.
Jet2 confirmed based units as 2x 737s (Prob both QCs as new mail route starts in Aug) and 2x 757 with the flightline 146 as well so 5 in total.
Im not sure about operations from southside, I have heard rumours of Jet2 boarding flights over there but not sure if its true.
Just for info this looks like the provisional copy of the programme from jet2
737-300
MON KRK ORK
TUE MAH LEI
WED PSA
THU ORK AGP
FRI KRK ORK
SAT PSA KRK
SUN LEI ORK AMS
737-300QC
MON AMS PSA AMS (STN MAIL RUN)
TUE AMS PMI AMS (STN MAIL RUN)
WED AMS PMI AMS (STN MAIL RUN)
THU AMS VLC AMS (STN MAIL RUN)
FRI AMS PSA AMS (STN MAIL RUN)
SAT AMS VLC MAH
SUN VLC AGP
757-200
MON PMI
TUE AGP TFS
WED FREE
THU PMI
FRI PMI TFS
SAT PMI
SUN PMI
757-200
MON MJV
TUE MJV
WED MJV
THU MJV
FRI MJV
SAT MJV AGP
SUN MJV
146-200
MON LGW LGW LGW
TUE LGW LGW LGW
WED LGW LGW BGO LGW
THU LGW LGW LGW
FRI LGW LGW BGO LGW
SAT LGW ORK BGO
SUN LGW
Quite busy compared to last year!
This should be the final copy of the programme but I wouldnt be suprised to see a bit of tweaking now and then.
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ncleflights - that press release is a standard one and I wouldn't read too much into it beyond Flybe not planning to leave NCL anytime soon. Easy and free publicity for them in the North East press if the newspapers up there pick up on it
Jet 2 wont be having high utilisation rates then this summer. And I would imagine NCL management wont be that thrilled about this when stands are at a premium but one of them is being taken up by a B757 operating 1 or at most 2 flights a day to Spain
Jet 2 wont be having high utilisation rates then this summer. And I would imagine NCL management wont be that thrilled about this when stands are at a premium but one of them is being taken up by a B757 operating 1 or at most 2 flights a day to Spain
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Sorry guys had a good look on the website but can't find it, anyone advise who handles BA at Newcastle. The last time I was there is was Northeast (!)
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Transwede 'The immigration area is now quite small and inadequate at busy times'.
I whole heartedly agree
This area has always been small, but it is as ever the staffing levels that are the cause of delays, - is it ever manned by more than two customs officers as they now appear to be taking more attention of everyones passport? They do not appear to enforce the discipline of the sign directions - EU & Non EU which can result in long queues forming when both desks are 'highjacked' by Non EU !
N.B. you can't blame this one on the servicability of security hardware !
I whole heartedly agree
This area has always been small, but it is as ever the staffing levels that are the cause of delays, - is it ever manned by more than two customs officers as they now appear to be taking more attention of everyones passport? They do not appear to enforce the discipline of the sign directions - EU & Non EU which can result in long queues forming when both desks are 'highjacked' by Non EU ! N.B. you can't blame this one on the servicability of security hardware !
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Skipness One Echo: who handles BA at Newcastle?
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NCL doesn't have to be avaliable for a diversion point. What I mean by that is. NCL is open 24/7 but will normally only accept divs if they can be accommodated on the ground. I.e stand avaliablity, handling agent ect. There wouldn't be stands kept empty on the off chance of a div, infrequent as they are.
If aircraft were ever to be parked south side then thay would have to be towed north side for departrure as the samson area isn't a RZ. Can't get anything bigger than a F100/Bae 146 on Fox apron.
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There are normally 3 immigration staff operating at peak times, i no they have just extended there office, and immigration staff would like an even bigger area for this summer but airport management wont fork out the money for it! i no last summer esp saturday nights it was ridiculous, us crew had to fight our way though pax off all the main charters all queud up all the way down the channel. It will be even worse this summer! Imagine when on occasion you have international flights dropping from all your charters and int'l carriers! plus the expansion of Jet2!
At least the security search area is already getting work done to it, shouldnt have ques down the stairs this summer, fingers crossed!
Its about time they pulled there fingers out and did some work on the pier and the gates, i'm ashamed of some of the gate areas, what a welcome to Newcastle International!
Also fair enough all these extra stands off pier are being set up in order to handle the higher amount of a/c's being based at ncl, but what about the higher levels of pax?? the coaching gates take long enough to board, what happens when you have a few a/c's off stand all with close departure slots? I think they need to get more gates as well as stands, and buses, cant believe we often get 1 coach to board a 757!
At least the security search area is already getting work done to it, shouldnt have ques down the stairs this summer, fingers crossed!
Its about time they pulled there fingers out and did some work on the pier and the gates, i'm ashamed of some of the gate areas, what a welcome to Newcastle International!
Also fair enough all these extra stands off pier are being set up in order to handle the higher amount of a/c's being based at ncl, but what about the higher levels of pax?? the coaching gates take long enough to board, what happens when you have a few a/c's off stand all with close departure slots? I think they need to get more gates as well as stands, and buses, cant believe we often get 1 coach to board a 757!
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Those were the days!!
If aircraft were ever to be parked south side then thay would have to be towed north side for departrure as the samson area isn't a RZ. Can't get anything bigger than a F100/Bae 146 on Fox apron.
I must be getting old...happy days...Dan Air B707's on F apron !!
I must be getting old...happy days...Dan Air B707's on F apron !!
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Its hardly a great situation though - including for Jet 2 who could surely be better utilising their assets
And would NCL management be so supportive if they got approached by an airline, say Flybe, looking to base some aircraft that would be doing 4/5 flights a day, including some to important, currently unserved, business destination. Noy saying that will hapen, but it could
The Jet 2 expansion at NCL is great for the airport and the North East, but it would be better all round in Jet 2 increased utilisation in the future by adding more flights (e.g. BUD, VCE, SXF) or reducing based aircraft, say by one, and utislising the remaining aircraft better
And would NCL management be so supportive if they got approached by an airline, say Flybe, looking to base some aircraft that would be doing 4/5 flights a day, including some to important, currently unserved, business destination. Noy saying that will hapen, but it could
The Jet 2 expansion at NCL is great for the airport and the North East, but it would be better all round in Jet 2 increased utilisation in the future by adding more flights (e.g. BUD, VCE, SXF) or reducing based aircraft, say by one, and utislising the remaining aircraft better
Just different strokes for different folks!
EZY/RYR have very young fleets which they have to work very hard to make pay.
Jet2 have an older, cheaper fleet which they don't have to work so hard but which need more TLC. The lower utilisation has the benefit of having more slack in the system for when things go wrong, which helps with their customer image.
EZY/RYR have very young fleets which they have to work very hard to make pay.
Jet2 have an older, cheaper fleet which they don't have to work so hard but which need more TLC. The lower utilisation has the benefit of having more slack in the system for when things go wrong, which helps with their customer image.
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I hear that the new security search area (above check-in 1-8) will have 6 x ray machines. They have four at the minute and ive never seen them all open before!
Reagarding the Jet2 based a/c. I cant see there being two 757 being based here this summer but could see one based and one visiting.
Reagarding the Jet2 based a/c. I cant see there being two 757 being based here this summer but could see one based and one visiting.
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Postcard: I must be getting old...happy days...Dan Air B707's on F apron !!
I just can't physically imagine it!!
Dan Air 707, how many years ago was that??
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Can this be correct re the utilization of 2 x 752s at NCL.
There is hardly enough work for one. Perhaps there will be schedule changes to come. I cannot see them having the equvilent of one 752 sitting around all day doing nothing.
There is hardly enough work for one. Perhaps there will be schedule changes to come. I cannot see them having the equvilent of one 752 sitting around all day doing nothing.
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South Apron-Supplementary parking!!
During the 1970's Dan Air B707's were regular visitors on crew training.The aircraft parked on a few occasions on the south apron..and if memory is correct was even nose in ,partially inside the Gill hangar for a spot of maintenance once !!
The most large aircraft I remember on that apron at the same time were 3 Britannia's,3 Ambassadors and a DC3.
The only physical difference then,was the apron had an additional taxiway on to the runway west of the current foxtrot taxiway.This was removed late 70's to facilitate a new glide path building for the 07 ILS.
Over to you Mac..any more memories??
The most large aircraft I remember on that apron at the same time were 3 Britannia's,3 Ambassadors and a DC3.
The only physical difference then,was the apron had an additional taxiway on to the runway west of the current foxtrot taxiway.This was removed late 70's to facilitate a new glide path building for the 07 ILS.
Over to you Mac..any more memories??
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Yes deffo 2x 757s as myself and Jet2Impress have already stated!
One of the reasons i assume the 757 is sitting around is due to the slot times into various places such as PMI AGP and MJV, so 2x 757s are needed.
Recruitment has also been geared around 2x 757s and crew are currently being trained as we speak ready for the 2x 757s and 1x 146 arriving in a few weeks.
And this info in coming from a reliable source, since we both work for the company
One of the reasons i assume the 757 is sitting around is due to the slot times into various places such as PMI AGP and MJV, so 2x 757s are needed.
Recruitment has also been geared around 2x 757s and crew are currently being trained as we speak ready for the 2x 757s and 1x 146 arriving in a few weeks.
And this info in coming from a reliable source, since we both work for the company
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old'ns are the best
South apron.
I also recall RAF/TA exercises when we had 3 C130 + VC10 over there at the same time and used the Gill hangar for check-in! The NAAFI provided some of the best bacon rolls ever, much better than Sweaty Betty's ever did.
I don't think 'separation' had been invented. Long, long before Samson was built.
I also recall RAF/TA exercises when we had 3 C130 + VC10 over there at the same time and used the Gill hangar for check-in! The NAAFI provided some of the best bacon rolls ever, much better than Sweaty Betty's ever did.
I don't think 'separation' had been invented. Long, long before Samson was built.
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I remember a KLM Fokker 100 nose in to the old Gill hangar to get a windscreen replaced 3-4 years ago.
On another note, i've heard talk of a visiting Surinam Airways 747-300 bringing AZ Alkmar supporters on Thursday!
On another note, i've heard talk of a visiting Surinam Airways 747-300 bringing AZ Alkmar supporters on Thursday!
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On another note, i've heard talk of a visiting Surinam Airways 747-300 bringing AZ Alkmar supporters on Thursday!
1st charter Boeing 747:
08-03-2007 AMS dept 10:00hr - arrive NCL 10:05hr
08-03-2007 NCL dept 23:45hr - AMS arrive 01:45hr
2nd charter Boeing 737:
08-03-2007 AMS dept 10:20hr - NCL arrive 10:25hr
08-03-2007 NCL dept 23:30hr - AMS arrive 01:35hr