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Yeah thats why they drafted in a FUA 737-400 at MAN to cover one of teh 757s mainland spain routes.
I think NCL will be a 5 aircraft base with 2x 733 2x 752 and a 146 or 3x733 1x 757 and a 146
Cant see 6 aircraft just yet! there isnt enuff flying around. if they r announcing anything soon better get it on the website soon!
I think NCL will be a 5 aircraft base with 2x 733 2x 752 and a 146 or 3x733 1x 757 and a 146
Cant see 6 aircraft just yet! there isnt enuff flying around. if they r announcing anything soon better get it on the website soon!
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[QUOTE=transwede;3084977]skyman771 I think you're getting a little confused. 6G was Air Wales, the routes you mentioned above are operated by Eastern Airways (T3).
Yes thanks for pointing that error out, appologies I have given myself a thorough reprimand in confusing my '6G's' with my 'T3's'
Yes thanks for pointing that error out, appologies I have given myself a thorough reprimand in confusing my '6G's' with my 'T3's'
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We all get confused in a while!
Out of interest, does anyone think we will see any more new route announcements in time for summer 07? I'm still hedging bets on seeing more from Jet2!
Out of interest, does anyone think we will see any more new route announcements in time for summer 07? I'm still hedging bets on seeing more from Jet2!
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They've increased Newcastle-Cork from 2 per week at present to 5 per week from March. Has this increase come at the expense of another route?
They've increased Newcastle-Cork from 2 per week at present to 5 per week from March. Has this increase come at the expense of another route?
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There still seems to be gaps in their a/c utilisation as far as I can see, leaving scope for new route announcements. I would think if they are to happen, and are to start at the end of March, any announcement would have to be before the end of this month to allow for marketing/sales.
There still seems to be gaps in their a/c utilisation as far as I can see, leaving scope for new route announcements. I would think if they are to happen, and are to start at the end of March, any announcement would have to be before the end of this month to allow for marketing/sales.
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Any further news on the alleged charter airline to be based at NCL that was being talked about?
HH6702: What ever happened to the press conference that was supposed to happen on Monday gone (Ryanair Forum)???
HH6702: What ever happened to the press conference that was supposed to happen on Monday gone (Ryanair Forum)???
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I don't think there was a press conference on Monday, the Cimber went out as a release to the press later on in the day?
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Still early days, but just picked up these interesting quotes from the Newcastle Journal last week:
Hundreds of seats have already been booked to Dubai and to further destinations including China and Australia, with October's half term and next Christmas and New Year flights filling up fast. Business class seats are also proving popular - with one independent travel agent selling virtually the entire section in one day.
Jane Bernstone, director of Jesmond Travel, says the firm has been overwhelmed with the response to the launch. They sold 25 seats out of 27 available in business class in just 24 hours. Jane said: "The demand has been fantastic, not just for Dubai, but beyond. Up to now, people have had to drive to Manchester or Glasgow or get an extra flight to London, with all the taxes that involves. People have been paying through the nose and have effectively been penalised for living in the North-East. This changes all of that."
An Emirates spokesman said: "We are absolutely delighted with the interest that has been shown in our new service, both from business and leisure travellers. Travellers from across the North-East are clearly starting to recognise the benefits of having a direct, long-haul service to the east from their local airport, which means they will encounter no costly time delays by having to transit via airports in London or continental Europe. Over the past week alone, several hundred travellers have already booked to travel with Emirates from Newcastle."
Chiefs at the airline expect up to 200,000 passengers a year to use the service. Regional development agency One NorthEast was instrumental in helping persuade Emirates to launch the service - visiting Dubai to promote the value of an investment in the North-East. A spokesman said: "We are delighted that Emirates' confidence in the region has been rewarded with such a healthy initial take-up from business class travellers."
Hundreds of seats have already been booked to Dubai and to further destinations including China and Australia, with October's half term and next Christmas and New Year flights filling up fast. Business class seats are also proving popular - with one independent travel agent selling virtually the entire section in one day.
Jane Bernstone, director of Jesmond Travel, says the firm has been overwhelmed with the response to the launch. They sold 25 seats out of 27 available in business class in just 24 hours. Jane said: "The demand has been fantastic, not just for Dubai, but beyond. Up to now, people have had to drive to Manchester or Glasgow or get an extra flight to London, with all the taxes that involves. People have been paying through the nose and have effectively been penalised for living in the North-East. This changes all of that."
An Emirates spokesman said: "We are absolutely delighted with the interest that has been shown in our new service, both from business and leisure travellers. Travellers from across the North-East are clearly starting to recognise the benefits of having a direct, long-haul service to the east from their local airport, which means they will encounter no costly time delays by having to transit via airports in London or continental Europe. Over the past week alone, several hundred travellers have already booked to travel with Emirates from Newcastle."
Chiefs at the airline expect up to 200,000 passengers a year to use the service. Regional development agency One NorthEast was instrumental in helping persuade Emirates to launch the service - visiting Dubai to promote the value of an investment in the North-East. A spokesman said: "We are delighted that Emirates' confidence in the region has been rewarded with such a healthy initial take-up from business class travellers."
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Although there has been many items in the local press re Emirates I noticed that on the day of the anouncement there was no reference to it on any of the radio Newcastle news bulletins I heard from noon throughout the rest of the day. The possible B A strike and NCL cancellations was the top story on all bulletins for almost 2 days on the same station. Any other negative stories even quite trivial ones also seem to make top headlines. Or am I just imagining this.
Does the reference to Radio Newcastle relate to the Cimber or Emirates launch? If Emirates, the launch featured quite heavily on the breakfast show on the day of the launch, and it's been mentioned a few times since.
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I was refering to Emirates, Didnt hear breakfast show.Heard only P M broadcasts. But being quite a major story thought it might have been mentioned in the main news throughout that day.
Saw a small piece in Chronicle re CPH flight.
Saw a small piece in Chronicle re CPH flight.
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Marketing new services is something that airlines and NCL airport can do very right or get wrong. For example the new EK service is being promoted everywhere, checkin screens, round the airport, in the press (papers/radio/tv) and online. However, not much attention has been paid to the new services to GRO (FR), CPH (QI) or GWY (Aer Arran). Current services from NCL are very rarely advertised too. I have never seen adverts for HLX, EI etc, but the likes of LS, EZY and TOM are all over buses, taxis, papers etc. Is it the airport that promotes services or the individual airline? The more advertising and promotion the more chance of success??!!
On another note, does NCL have the possibility to gain any further new routes in the UK? I know expansion at busy times is limited, but what about during the day? NQY is possible and a regular JER service, possibly flown by FlyBE or Air Southwest (who could have spare capacity now that they have competition by BA on LGW-NQY?).
On another note, does NCL have the possibility to gain any further new routes in the UK? I know expansion at busy times is limited, but what about during the day? NQY is possible and a regular JER service, possibly flown by FlyBE or Air Southwest (who could have spare capacity now that they have competition by BA on LGW-NQY?).
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Advertising
It is mainly up to the individual airline to advertise its services with paid for adverts in the press T V, radio etc. However the airport usually will also do some promotion possibly in conjunction with the airline.
P R is a very important part of promoting a service. It is in effect free advertising ie news reports, competitions, in the press, radio etc. This type of publicity can be difficult to achieve especially if the media concerned does not have a good relationship with the airport. As I said in earlier posts It seems that "some" local media prefer to only report negative stuff re NCL. There could be all sorts of reasons for this!.
Incidentally EI have ran numerous paid for press ads in the local papers promoting the Dublin service for the last couple of months.
RE Emirates I dont think I have seen any "paid for" advertising ouside the airport for this service, it seems to be mainly excelent PR. (well in most places)
P R is a very important part of promoting a service. It is in effect free advertising ie news reports, competitions, in the press, radio etc. This type of publicity can be difficult to achieve especially if the media concerned does not have a good relationship with the airport. As I said in earlier posts It seems that "some" local media prefer to only report negative stuff re NCL. There could be all sorts of reasons for this!.
Incidentally EI have ran numerous paid for press ads in the local papers promoting the Dublin service for the last couple of months.
RE Emirates I dont think I have seen any "paid for" advertising ouside the airport for this service, it seems to be mainly excelent PR. (well in most places)
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There has been talk of the EK DXB service being profitable before pax are carried on the flights as agreements have rumoured to have been signed to carry large amounts of freight on each departure and arrival, which is worth quite alot of revenue. In addition pax carried are bonus profits and judging by previous posts, sales are going well and I'm sure it won't be long before the likes of holiday specialists Kuoni, Hayes and Jarvis etc start buying seats and offering, atlast proper long haul holidays from NCL. The route network available from DXB is fantastic, with the far east, africa and austrailasia all easily available now from NCL. Just a shame that east bound NCL only has charters to YYZ/YHM, SFB and POP - 2 of which have reduced capacity from previous years.
Are TCX still offering Hurghada for sale next winter or is that another no starter?
The numerous Onur Air flights supposed to operate from NCL this summer could also be in jeopardy as rumour on another forum says that another carrier is taking over all international OHY flights, using 320/321 aircraft with the A300's going and MD's being kept by OHY for domestic use. The plan is to get rid of Onur's negative image. 2 Onur Air widebody aircraft were planned to be on the ground at the same time this summer, quite a sight at NCL where widebody aircraft are few and far between (although not for long!).
Are TCX still offering Hurghada for sale next winter or is that another no starter?
The numerous Onur Air flights supposed to operate from NCL this summer could also be in jeopardy as rumour on another forum says that another carrier is taking over all international OHY flights, using 320/321 aircraft with the A300's going and MD's being kept by OHY for domestic use. The plan is to get rid of Onur's negative image. 2 Onur Air widebody aircraft were planned to be on the ground at the same time this summer, quite a sight at NCL where widebody aircraft are few and far between (although not for long!).
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2 new developments to report.
JET 2 has now launched its holiday company
A new executive charter company has been set up with Newcastle headquarters.....Plane Chartering Ltd will base executive a/c at Newcastle Airport.
JET 2 has now launched its holiday company
A new executive charter company has been set up with Newcastle headquarters.....Plane Chartering Ltd will base executive a/c at Newcastle Airport.
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Is this Plane Chartering Ltd the rumoured new charter carrier? Maybe we all got a bit confused thinking it could be the likes of MON, AEU and FCA!
With Jet2 launching a holiday brand, does that mean further expansion for their flights from UK bases? For example, could they move into offering flight and charter packages to the likes of the greek islands, turkey etc? Has anything been confirmed yet as to what a/c NCL is getting from them for the summer? Their programme timings still demand 6 aircraft and with their difficulty in finding suitable 757's, is this still possible for NCL?
With Jet2 launching a holiday brand, does that mean further expansion for their flights from UK bases? For example, could they move into offering flight and charter packages to the likes of the greek islands, turkey etc? Has anything been confirmed yet as to what a/c NCL is getting from them for the summer? Their programme timings still demand 6 aircraft and with their difficulty in finding suitable 757's, is this still possible for NCL?