DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 4
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Teesside had massive Otterburn trooping flights in 1992 and 1998. 1992 there must of been about 100 NATO military transports. 1998 used military transports and sub leased airliners.
I suppose Leeming hasn't got the fire cover, parking, equipment, staff trained in loading and customs facilities.
Heads of state at Nigeria, Ireland, France, and one of the Korean countrys for the ill fated Samsung factory. King of Spain grouse shooting.
Teesside had massive Otterburn trooping flights in 1992 and 1998. 1992 there must of been about 100 NATO military transports. 1998 used military transports and sub leased airliners.
I suppose Leeming hasn't got the fire cover, parking, equipment, staff trained in loading and customs facilities.
Heads of state at Nigeria, Ireland, France, and one of the Korean countrys for the ill fated Samsung factory. King of Spain grouse shooting.
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DTV ... you say newcastle are being arrogant in their assumption they are getting the airshow?? where has this been listed??
from what i have heard..they are not too chuffed about getting it anyway??
They are after all, a busy commercial money making venture and probably dont need the hastle??
Not their fault if DTV are incapable of mounting a serious bid!!
from what i have heard..they are not too chuffed about getting it anyway??
They are after all, a busy commercial money making venture and probably dont need the hastle??
Not their fault if DTV are incapable of mounting a serious bid!!
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RAF Leeming does not have the fire cover to handle wide body jets with large amounts of pax onboard. Neither does it have the handling equipment to on/offload tins or pips. It is also restricted to its opening hours and sufficient pan space for a wide body jet.
Hence MME is used albeight the extra cost to the MOD. I'm sure Leeming would love to handle military pax but the MOD will not invest in its infra structure to handle such aircraft.
Hope that clarifies the situation
Hence MME is used albeight the extra cost to the MOD. I'm sure Leeming would love to handle military pax but the MOD will not invest in its infra structure to handle such aircraft.
Hope that clarifies the situation
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Originally Posted by Bartrams
DTV ... you say newcastle are being arrogant in their assumption they are getting the airshow?? where has this been listed??
from what i have heard..they are not too chuffed about getting it anyway??
They are after all, a busy commercial money making venture and probably dont need the hastle??
Not their fault if DTV are incapable of mounting a serious bid!!
from what i have heard..they are not too chuffed about getting it anyway??
They are after all, a busy commercial money making venture and probably dont need the hastle??
Not their fault if DTV are incapable of mounting a serious bid!!
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I see Globespan from Malaga tonight are 1 1/2 hours delayed yet again. If they were operating trains on the East Coast Mainline their franchise would have been taken from them by now.Have they ever met any scheduled times into Teesside? The answer I think is to extend their published ETA's by one hour each way and pretend that they are giving a reasonable timetable to MME. It must be a nightmare for anyone being picked up from anyone of their flights by relatives or taxis.
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1 1/2 hours isn't to bad could be worse.
Be lucky if Flyglobespan continue onto S09 as they are getting 737NG a/c to replace older 737-300 and 600 a/c and are ment to be talking of operning a new base in England as these new 737's are thought to be the 800 type maybe 700.
Be lucky if Flyglobespan continue onto S09 as they are getting 737NG a/c to replace older 737-300 and 600 a/c and are ment to be talking of operning a new base in England as these new 737's are thought to be the 800 type maybe 700.
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MME looks as though its on course to be a Summer-Base only setup like ABZ.
Still flights for W08 on sale to TFS/ALC/AGP, but much reduced. A/C will not be based for only 3-4 flights a week.
Still flights for W08 on sale to TFS/ALC/AGP, but much reduced. A/C will not be based for only 3-4 flights a week.
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Just to put DTV's mind at rest..and as advised earler..The Air show is operating from newcastle.The F16's will however operate from DTV due to close proximity of Leeming and technical services.
Now can we leave this boring subject and discuss how our airport is really performing!!
Take a look at Peel figures for May...dont make very good reading..i see the industrial estate coming ever closer!!
But saying that all airports are doing not too well at the mo.The industry is going threough a difficult time and will be for the foreseeable future..only the fittest will survive..i'm off to the Gym!!
Now can we leave this boring subject and discuss how our airport is really performing!!
Take a look at Peel figures for May...dont make very good reading..i see the industrial estate coming ever closer!!
But saying that all airports are doing not too well at the mo.The industry is going threough a difficult time and will be for the foreseeable future..only the fittest will survive..i'm off to the Gym!!
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Malaga flight late in again tonight just an hour this time.Globespan must be costing the airport a fortune with their time keeping even though I understand they are charged extra for keeping the airport open after their original ETA.
I just happened across this site tonight FlyGlobespan Reviews and FlyGlobespan Passenger Opinions about FlyGlobespan product and FlyGlobespan service standards and it makes interesting reading. Who cares whether Globespan keep going through the winter with reviews like this. I would really feel that the airport could do better without them but unfortunately they appear to be the mainstay for the forseeable future. God help us.
I just happened across this site tonight FlyGlobespan Reviews and FlyGlobespan Passenger Opinions about FlyGlobespan product and FlyGlobespan service standards and it makes interesting reading. Who cares whether Globespan keep going through the winter with reviews like this. I would really feel that the airport could do better without them but unfortunately they appear to be the mainstay for the forseeable future. God help us.
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That website certainly doesnt make good reading paarmo, although the only comment really relating to the operation at mme that I can see was "the passengers for the Teesside flight were abusive about people trying to 'jump the queue'." 
Never thought I'd say it but bring back BMI Baby?
Never thought I'd say it but bring back BMI Baby?
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Paarmo for goodness sake wind your neck in.
If I wanted to I could take any ariline's OTP stats and spin in it in any way I choose. Only for GSM there is only one Jet so whilst I am in no way their great adversary; can we put things into a little less damming perspective?
As you are apparantly well briefed on all things aviation I'm surprised at your evident unease as to an hour's delay. Not ideal for pax and waiting relatives I know, but please; we are entering summer season where ATC slots can and will play their part in messing things up.
GSM in the past have been their own worst enemy but I have seen an overall good OTP over the last few months. Planes are full (or nearly so) so we all need this to succeed. You like others may have noticed that the seats are only on sale until early Jan. If they do pull out then who will be left for you to air your greivences.
If I wanted to I could take any ariline's OTP stats and spin in it in any way I choose. Only for GSM there is only one Jet so whilst I am in no way their great adversary; can we put things into a little less damming perspective?
As you are apparantly well briefed on all things aviation I'm surprised at your evident unease as to an hour's delay. Not ideal for pax and waiting relatives I know, but please; we are entering summer season where ATC slots can and will play their part in messing things up.
GSM in the past have been their own worst enemy but I have seen an overall good OTP over the last few months. Planes are full (or nearly so) so we all need this to succeed. You like others may have noticed that the seats are only on sale until early Jan. If they do pull out then who will be left for you to air your greivences.
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Please don't have a go at me again for saying this; as I'm a little sceptical myself - but two sources within the airport are saying Ryanair want in badly, but the airport is blocking them - how true this is I don't know, but if it is, the only reason I can see Peel blocking them is because they know Ryanair could, and most likely would, make a success of things where others have failed, and therefore would make it more difficult for Peel to close the airport and build houses etc.
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DTV - Not having a go at you but I don't believe that.
I can't honestly believe that if an airline wanted to get into DTVA and really make its presence felt, that the airport would block it. It just wouldn't make sense.
I actually believe that Ryanair would find it difficult to succeed en-mass at MME because of the size of their aircraft. They will do fine on major routes, but filling 189 seats per sector is tough...even more so in the current economic climate. Add to that Ryanair need to make money, and not just fill a plane, I think it would be hard. Look at Rome, Dublin & Gerona.....
So I don't believe the rumour is true on two points...one that Ryanair want in, and two that the airport would block it.
I travel a lot from the airport and regularly get to speak with people from the inside. I also get to hear a lot of rumours....most of which I believe are rubbish. The one I heard last week (which I just laughed at but eh lets share it) was that Easyjet were unhappy at NCL and were looking at coming down here. Evidence if ever there was that most rumours are just that....rumours.
I can't honestly believe that if an airline wanted to get into DTVA and really make its presence felt, that the airport would block it. It just wouldn't make sense.
I actually believe that Ryanair would find it difficult to succeed en-mass at MME because of the size of their aircraft. They will do fine on major routes, but filling 189 seats per sector is tough...even more so in the current economic climate. Add to that Ryanair need to make money, and not just fill a plane, I think it would be hard. Look at Rome, Dublin & Gerona.....
So I don't believe the rumour is true on two points...one that Ryanair want in, and two that the airport would block it.
I travel a lot from the airport and regularly get to speak with people from the inside. I also get to hear a lot of rumours....most of which I believe are rubbish. The one I heard last week (which I just laughed at but eh lets share it) was that Easyjet were unhappy at NCL and were looking at coming down here. Evidence if ever there was that most rumours are just that....rumours.
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Cant see this being true either like.
They have pulled gro for the winter. if they wanted to base they would have kept in going from DTV for the winter and pulled the ncl flights.
THink there is more chance of FR basing at NCL than DTV but i could be wrong. FR maybe pulling the GRO to try and get DTV to let them in.
Maybe if FR pulled the DUB and increased NCL to 3x daily flights then maybe DTV will give FR whatever they want!!
If they did come to DTV it would be on FR terms and prices and not DTV.
They have pulled gro for the winter. if they wanted to base they would have kept in going from DTV for the winter and pulled the ncl flights.
THink there is more chance of FR basing at NCL than DTV but i could be wrong. FR maybe pulling the GRO to try and get DTV to let them in.
Maybe if FR pulled the DUB and increased NCL to 3x daily flights then maybe DTV will give FR whatever they want!!
If they did come to DTV it would be on FR terms and prices and not DTV.
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Maybe if FR pulled the DUB and increased NCL to 3x daily flights then maybe DTV will give FR whatever they want!!
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FR may well want to increase at DTV, unlikely but may be possible; but at what cost to DTV?
MoL is not known for his acceptance of normal business methods. FR may well be saying we will expand but it will cost you 'x' for us to do this and you can make your money on carparks, retail etc.
DTV management would then, in my opinion, be right to say 'there's the door, use it'.
Just a thought!!
FR may well want to increase at DTV, unlikely but may be possible; but at what cost to DTV?
MoL is not known for his acceptance of normal business methods. FR may well be saying we will expand but it will cost you 'x' for us to do this and you can make your money on carparks, retail etc.
DTV management would then, in my opinion, be right to say 'there's the door, use it'.
Just a thought!!
DTVA Rumours.
1. Houseing and industry.
2. Ryanair base.
3. Easyjet move from Newcastle.
4. Jet 2 move from Newcastle.
5. Globespan base and flights to America and Canada.
6. Hawks in hangar 2.
Any more for anymore.
I am not argueing for or against any of these just listing the current ones.
1. Houseing and industry.
2. Ryanair base.
3. Easyjet move from Newcastle.
4. Jet 2 move from Newcastle.
5. Globespan base and flights to America and Canada.
6. Hawks in hangar 2.
Any more for anymore.
I am not argueing for or against any of these just listing the current ones.
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