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Old 13th Apr 2016, 23:14
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7,000ft runway.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 07:30
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Doesn't prohibit them, not even a little.

Emirates 777-300 to Dubai often takes off from DUB's RWY16, despite that being 200ft shorter than Cork's runway. 757's do it without issue.

At least use a credible reason.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 13:35
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The 757 & 737NG are the only current jets that can do long haul out of Cork without weight restrictions..

The 757 is a pretty old jet and declining in numbers. Let`s hope Boeing launch a replacement to the 757. At least the 737Max will be able to do it soon.
The sooner Cork is shot of the DAA, the better.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 13:41
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Cork would never get a 767, runway or not. A767 can also operate to BOS and JFK without restrictions. The only one your deluding is yourself. A 757 was the only way up to recently to get a service, and the runway is not a factor in this, its the market.

The runway size is not an issue.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 15:10
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Rubbish. Shannon has a superb runway with multiple airlines flying to the US yet a relatively small population catchment area incomparable to Cork yet Cork has no services to the US.
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If this "amazing" "shockingly underserved" US market is in Cork, how come nobody has ever even considered touching it?

Because its simply not there! There's a small niche market that may eventually be served, but no airline at the moment will be willing to compromise their SNN and DUB operations to fly to an airport 2 hours down the road.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 16:43
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Are you stupid?
Because the short runway restricts the aircraft type that can be used for long haul to operate without weight restrictions which affects profitability.
United Airlines fly out of Belfast 90 minutes up the road from Dublin!
Cork is 3 hours from Dublin airport. Business traffic will not tolerate a 3 hour journey to Dublin and consequently fly via Heathrow.

Thankfully, Norwegian will be flying to both to New York and Boston on the 737MAX next year.
Enough said.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 16:58
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Originally Posted by CCR
Are you stupid?
Because the short runway restricts the aircraft type that can be used for long haul to operate without weight restrictions which affects profitability.
The ONLY aircraft that can operate viably from a financial perspective from Cork is a 737 or 757. A 767 is uneconomical with or without a long runway.

United Airlines fly out of Belfast 90 minutes up the road from Dublin!
NI has a far exceptional population base compared to Cork, yet it struggled majorly to even get this route.

Cork is 3 hours from Dublin airport. Business traffic will not tolerate a 3 hour journey to Dublin and consequently fly via Heathrow.
Shannon or Heathrow. Your point does not justify a market.

Thankfully, Norwegian will be flying to both to New York and Boston on the 737MAX next year.
Enough said.
I'm sure they will
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 17:23
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Obviously Heathrow until Norwegian come to Cork.

I was comparing Belfast where I live to Cork not NI with Cork.
Cork`s passengers are mainly Munster based and Belfast`s are primarily Ulster based with similar populations.
Let`s leave at that and move on.
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So you admit to being incorrect?

You cannot just go by "cities" you have to go by Market.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 17:31
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Not at all. Thankfully Belfast is not run by the DAA and never will otherwise we`d be in the same boat as Cork!
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Cork is 3 hours from Dublin airport. Business traffic will not tolerate a 3 hour journey to Dublin and consequently fly via Heathrow.
FYI 2h30m-2h45, the express bus can do 2h45m so a car could easily do 2h20m.

Obviously Heathrow until Norwegian come to Cork.
If the daa were that bad they wouldn't of been so nice to DY and even allow them explore services ex Cork. Cork would never of napped Iberia without daa either!

daa have their faults but Cork going along will not make much difference however it could result in the current volatile financial position which BFS/BHD find themselves in. Of course those replaced by SNN/ORK.

Not related to above but notice second air bridge will open for EI and charter usage in 2 weeks.

The daa is not just the problem at Cork, it's also EI/FR who will do whatever is required to protect profits ex DUB for them and the rest of the airports get the dips from that.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 20:46
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Originally Posted by EI-A330-300
FYI 2h30m-2h45, the express bus can do 2h45m so a car could easily do 2h20m.



If the daa were that bad they wouldn't of been so nice to DY and even allow them explore services ex Cork. Cork would never of napped Iberia without daa either!

daa have their faults but Cork going along will not make much difference however it could result in the current volatile financial position which BFS/BHD find themselves in. Of course those replaced by SNN/ORK.

Not related to above but notice second air bridge will open for EI and charter usage in 2 weeks.

The daa is not just the problem at Cork, it's also EI/FR who will do whatever is required to protect profits ex DUB for them and the rest of the airports get the dips from that.
Possibly 2hr30m to the M50 and then you guys from Cork have to take a gamble on how congested the M50 is!
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 21:24
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Unless of course, your driving through the m50 outside of 8am-10am and 4pm-7pm.

M50 rarely has serious congestion outside of those times.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 21:45
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Well agreed, 7am-10am and the 4pm-7pm when it can become the biggest parking lot in the country!
The M50 is a symbol of the Dublin centric planning mindset in the Republic where all motorways throughout Ireland end up on the M50, clogging up Dublin!
Everyone would be better off if there was balanced regional development, including developing the regional airports!
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I completely agree with that point.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 23:03
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Yeah ok, longer at peak hours however access at the most impotent times is still pretty quick for early morning flights and returning after night arrivals.

The M50 is a symbol of the Dublin centric planning mindset in the Republic where all motorways throughout Ireland end up on the M50, clogging up Dublin!
No really, it's the locals using the M50 which is the real issue but that's another issue. There is very few Euro capitals that don't have such a problem. London M25, Paris etc

Everyone would be better off if there was balanced regional development, including developing the regional airports!
Raise a good point however no matter how hard you try it's not always easy. Fully expect more can be done however. A big problem with Cork is loyalty, something which SNN, WAT, NOC have and are able to capture and people usually make a conscious effort to use it, and ever pay extra. Something which Cork needs to work on. Would say N Cork people could make a bigger effort rather than opting for SNN/DUB to go on holiday.
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Old 15th Apr 2016, 13:51
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2nd airbridge fitted.
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US approve DY!
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Old 15th Apr 2016, 19:43
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Yes all going well we'll have T/A to Boston and JFK next year.
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