CORK - 5

[ryan2000]

I see the Irish Travel Agents are claiming that bookings increased by 90% in January compared to January 2012. If this is the case and the trend continues we might see some of the lost capacity restored at our airports. I won't hold my breath as I recall reading similar reports last January and all that materialised was another stagnant year for Cork and Dublin and a further fall at Shannon.

[Aisle2c]

Aircoach is €25 return from Cork to Dublin Airport.

So, trundle to a bus stop from your house, with your luggage, if your serviced by a bus route, into town. Trundle with your luggage to the back of the Metropole. Sit on a coach for 3 hours to Dub Airport. And the misery of having to do it back home.

Lovely.

[ryan2000]

IF the Ryanair proposals get approval we will be depending on an British Airways and Flybe to provide meaningful competition at Cork Airport. That would be funny if it wasn't so serious. The former took over Cambrian Airways, Brymon, Manx Airways and City Flyer Express at various times in the past. By Co-incidence each of those carriers had been operating various UK routes into Cork at the time of their takeover. BA promptly withdrew from Gatwick, Manchester, Bristol, Plymouth and Newcastle although they did operate to London Heathrow for many years untill the early 1990's. Over the last decade they've shown no interest in the Irish Market North or South untill their surprise re-entry on LHR DUB last summer.

Flybe's brand recognition in the Republic is very limited and it's hard to see them competing with Ryanair for any length of time. I can't see any prospect of competition from Cork to Lanzarote, Teneriffe, Las Palmas, Barcelona, Alicante, Malaga, Palma or Faro. These are all served by both EI and FR at the moment. In fact I doubt if Flybe aircraft have the range to fly to the Canaries.

[Hangar6]

Cork Airport

Today Monday , always a key day for airports jut two airlines fly to Cork

EI have what 16 flights and FR 5 or 6
I believe Corkwould be the real loser if EI are closed, and that is the ONLY plan, by MOL

BA are back on Dublin becuase they bought BMI , they are sitting on the lots for future LH growth subject to new aircraft arrivals

BE are sacking pilots, cabin crew engineers and office staff this very month

neither airline need CORK .

sorry but thats my view and I hope EI are not closed

[ryan2000]

Just read that Cork Airport are to encourage airlines to put on extra flights for rebel week in Mid October. It remains to be seen if this paddywhackery will produce the predicted 5,000 visitors to the City but even if it does, I predict that the airlines will shunt them to Dublin and Shannon on their existing services rather than put on extra flights to Cork.

[Aisle2c]

I agree Hangar6, nothing good would come from allowing Ryanair to buy Aer Lingus. O'Leary's track record in using his airline to punish/bully airports and governments, not just in Ireland, but all over Europe, should completely inform the EU that their arms length relationship with Ryanair was the right policy.

[fjr13]

hi ryan2000, any further news on that new german route that you mentioned back in november?Anyone know when or if Ryanair will load the summer seasonal flights?

[ryan2000]

The speculation at the time centred on Frankfurt as it has done every year since 2009. However once again it didn't materialise. I'd have expected the Ryanair flights to have been loaded by now. Of course they probably won't start untill June so there's ti e yet. I believe Knock Milan was only loaded this week.

[aer lingus]

So there is still a chance that the French routes could be added to Cork?.

[bcn_boy]

Cardiff

The route between Cork and Cardiff could do with being reintroduced.

[Jamie2k9]

CDG Slots

EI have got the slots:

ORK-CDG
06.40-09.20
CDG-ORK
10.00-10.40

[barrymah]

CDG Slot

EI have got.....

Source of this information?

As I said before, very unhelpful deparure time if you have to travel from outside the city... and if you have to get to CDG for the incoming slot.

[peacock1]

Paris slots.........hopefully the start of a move towards double daily flights
ORK CDG by EI...
Cheer up, when the late evening departure to CDG starts, in a while,
then you can have more time in bed !

[barrymah]

Smart arse, I know they are Paris slots, that's what the OP said, but where did the information come from? It probably comes from the same source as the 'second daily' - vapourware??

It isn't a question of staying in bed, it is about €100 more to be in Cork for an 05.30 presence, not to mention the potential extra cost of being in Paris for 09.00. The exisiting mid morning -mid afternoon is fine.

[Aisle2c]

The mid morning time might be fine for getting to Paris, but not a whole lot else, and even then you were dependant on the Amsterdam flight arriving back on time to collect the CDG passengers.

I was wrecked from the Cork - AMS early time but it helps for onward flights. For flights within France, the mid morning flight arrives too late for early onward internal flights from CDG or getting to Orly. It's a price worth paying.

[fjr13]

Some good news, Ryanair have released their summer seasonal flights to Spain,France and Italy.Same Destinations as last year.

[Jack1985]

A/C 1 - B738:

FR9947 ORK-FAO 0630/0900 ----F-- 2hrs 30mins
FR9948 FAO-ORK 0925/1155 ----F-- 2hrs 30mins

FR9728 ORK-BGY 0635/1015 M------ 2hrs 40mins
FR9729 BGY-ORK 1040/1220 M------ 2hrs 40mins

FR9903 ORK-REU 0645/1005 --W---S 2hrs 20mins
FR9904 REU-ORK 1030/1150 --W---S 2hrs 20mins

FR9905 ORK-BOD 0710/1000 -T-T-S- 1hrs 50mins
FR9906 BOD-ORK 1025/1115 -T-T-S- 1hrs 50mins

FR3022 ORK-CCF 1140/1450 -T-T-S- 2hrs 10mins
FR3023 CCF-ORK 1515/1625 -T-T-S- 2hrs 10mins

FR9973 ORK-LRH 1215/1505 --W---S 1hrs 50mins
FR9974 LRH-ORK 1530/1620 --W---S 1hrs 50mins

FR9852 ORK-LGW 1245/1410 ----F-- 1hrs 25mins
FR9853 LGW-ORK 1435/1600 ----F-- 1hrs 25mins

FR9852 ORK-LGW 1305/1430 M------ 1hrs 25mins
FR9853 LGW-ORK 1500/1625 M------ 1hrs 25mins

FR9901 ORK-AGP 1625/2015 ----F-- 2hrs 50mins
FR9902 AGP-ORK 2050/2245 ----F-- 2hrs 55mins

FR9901 ORK-AGP 1650/2040 M------ 2hrs 50mins
FR9902 AGP-ORK 2115/2310 M------ 2hrs 55mins

FR9901 ORK-AGP 1710/2100 --W---S 2hrs 50mins
FR9902 AGP-ORK 2135/2330 --W---S 2hrs 55mins

FR9951 ORK-ALC 1715/2055 -T-T-S- 2hrs 40mins
FR9952 ALC-ORK 2130/2310 -T-T-S- 2hrs 40mins

A/C 2 - B738:

FR9712 ORK-PSA 0645/1025 M---F-- 2hrs 40mins
FR9711 PSA-ORK 1050/1235 M---F-- 2hrs 45mins

FR8782 ORK-GDN 0655/1030 -----S- 2hrs 35mins
FR8781 GDN-ORK 1055/1240 -----S- 2hrs 45mins

FR9943 ORK-ACE 0635/1035 ------S 4hrs 00mins
FR9944 ACE-ORK 1110/1515 ------S 4hrs 05mins

FR9728 ORK-BGY 0740/1120 ---T--- 2hrs 40mins
FR9729 BGY-ORK 1145/1325 ---T--- 2hrs 40mins

FR9896 ORK-LPL 0840/0945 --W---- 1hrs 05mins
FR9895 LPL-ORK 1010/1115 --W---- 1hrs 05mins

FR9852 ORK-LGW 1105/1225 -T----- 1hrs 20mins
FR9853 LGW-ORK 1250/1415 -T----- 1hrs 25mins

FR9852 ORK-LGW 1140/1305 --W---- 1hrs 25mins
FR9853 LGW-ORK 1335/1500 --W---- 1hrs 25mins

FR7887 ORK-PMI 1340/1725 -----S- 2hrs 45mins
FR7888 PMI-ORK 1800/1945 -----S- 2hrs 45mins

FR9973 ORK-LRH 1345/1635 ----F-- 1hrs 50mins
FR9974 LRH-ORK 1700/1750 ----F-- 1hrs 50mins

FR9852 ORK-LGW 1425/1550 ---T--- 1hrs 25mins
FR9853 LGW-ORK 1655/1820 ---T--- 1hrs 25mins

FR6752 ORK-GRO 1510/1845 -T----- 2hrs 35mins
FR6751 GRO-ORK 1910/2040 -T----- 2hrs 30mins

FR7887 ORK-PMI 1550/1935 --W---- 2hrs 45mins
FR7888 PMI-ORK 2020/2205 --W---- 2hrs 45mins

FR8822 ORK-WMI 1635/2040 ------S 3hrs 05mins
FR8823 WMI-ORK 2105/2325 ------S 3hrs 20mins

FR9903 ORK-REU 1815/2135 M---F-- 2hrs 20mins
FR9904 REU-ORK 2200/2320 M---F-- 2hrs 20mins

FR906 ORK-STN 1855/2015 ---T--- 1hrs 20mins
FR905 STN-ORK 2040/2205 ---T--- 1hrs 25mins

FR9852 ORK-LGW 2010/2135 -----S- 1hrs 25mins
FR9853 LGW-ORK 2200/2325 -----S- 1hrs 25mins

A/C 3 - B738:

FR1402 ORK-TFS 0710/1110 ------S 4hrs 00mins
FR1401 TFS-ORK 1200/1625 ------S 4hrs 25mins

FR9941 ORK-FUE 0725/1130 -----S- 4hrs 05mins
FR9942 FUE-ORK 1210/1620 -----S- 4hrs 10mins

FR8866 ORK-VNO 0815/1325 M------ 3hrs 10mins
FR8867 VNO-ORK 1350/1500 M------ 3hrs 00mins

FR8822 ORK-WMI 0815/1220 --W-F-- 3hrs 05mins
FR8823 WMI-ORK 1245/1505 --W-F-- 3hrs 20mins

FR8856 ORK-WRO 0815/1210 ---T--- 2hrs 55mins
FR8857 WRO-ORK 1235/1435 ---T--- 3hrs 00mins

FR8782 ORK-GDN 0815/1150 -T----- 2hrs 35mins
FR8781 GDN-ORK 1215/1400 -T----- 2hrs 45mins

FR7028 ORK-LPA 1505/1915 -T----- 4hrs 10mins
FR7027 LPA-ORK 1950/2350 -T----- 4hrs 00mins

FR8866 ORK-VNO 1525/2035 ---T--- 3hrs 10mins
FR8867 VNO-ORK 2100/2210 ---T--- 3hrs 00mins

FR8284 ORK-KRK 1550/2000 M------ 3hrs 10mins
FR8285 KRK-ORK 2025/2225 M------ 3hrs 00mins

FR8284 ORK-KRK 1555/2005 --W-F-- 3hrs 10mins
FR8285 KRK-ORK 2030/2230 --W-F-- 3hrs 00mins

FR9896 ORK-LPL 1710/1815 ------S 1hrs 05mins
FR9895 LPL-ORK 1840/1945 ------S 1hrs 05mins

FR6752 ORK-GRO 1715/2050 -----S- 2hrs 35mins
FR6751 GRO-ORK 2120/2250 -----S- 2hrs 30mins

FR9852 ORK-LGW 2010/2135 ------S 1hrs 25mins
FR9853 LGW-ORK 2200/2325 ------S 1hrs 25mins

NON-BASED - B738:

FR901 STN-ORK 0600/0725 ----F-- 1hrs 25mins
FR902 ORK-STN 0750/0920 ----F-- 1hrs 30mins

FR901 STN-ORK 0605/0730 --W---- 1hrs 25mins
FR902 ORK-STN 0755/0925 --W---- 1hrs 25mins

FR901 STN-ORK 0615/0740 M------ 1hrs 25mins
FR902 ORK-STN 0805/0935 M------ 1hrs 30mins

FR901 STN-ORK 0620/0745 -T-T--S 1hrs 25mins
FR902 ORK-STN 0810/0940 -T-T--S 1hrs 30mins

FR901 STN-ORK 0620/0740 -----S- 1hrs 20mins
FR902 ORK-STN 0805/0935 -----S- 1hrs 30mins

FR9944 ACE-ORK 0740/1145 -T----- 4hrs 05mins
FR9943 ORK-ACE 1210/1610 -T----- 4hrs 00mins

FR9895 LPL-ORK 0745/0850 M------ 1hrs 05mins
FR9896 ORK-LPL 0915/1020 M------ 1hrs 05mins

FR9948 FAO-ORK 0930/1200 M------ 2hrs 30mins
FR9947 ORK-FAO 1225/1455 M------ 2hrs 30mins

FR908 STN-ORK 1340/1505 M---F-- 1hrs 25mins
FR909 ORK-STN 1530/1645 M---F-- 1hrs 15mins

FR9895 LPL-ORK 1515/1620 ----F-- 1hrs 05mins
FR9896 ORK-LPL 1645/1750 ----F-- 1hrs 05mins

FR9948 FAO-ORK 1620/1850 --W---- 2hrs 30mins
FR9947 ORK-FAO 1915/2145 --W---- 2hrs 30mins

FR8857 WRO-ORK 1735/1935 ------S 3hrs 00mins
FR8856 ORK-WRO 2000/2355 ------S 2hrs 55mins

FR905 STN-ORK 1845/2015 -----S- 1hrs 30mins
FR906 ORK-STN 2040/2200 -----S- 1hrs 20mins

FR9895 LPL-ORK 1855/2000 -----S- 1hrs 05mins
FR9896 ORK-LPL 2025/2130 -----S- 1hrs 05mins

FR905 STN-ORK 1955/2120 MTW-F-S 1hrs 25mins
FR906 ORK-STN 2145/2305 MTW-F-S 1hrs 20mins

CORK (ORK)
Alicante (ALC)
Bordeaux (BOD)
Carcassonne (CCF)
Faro (FAO)
Fuerteventura (FUE)
Gdańsk (GDN)
Girona (Barcelona) (GRO)
Gran Canaria (LPA)
Krakow (KRK)
La Rochelle (LRH)
Lanzarote-Arrecife (ACE)
Liverpool (LPL)
London-Gatwick (LGW)
London-Stansted (STN)
Malaga (AGP)
Milan (Bergamo) (BGY)
Palma Mallorca (PMI)
Pisa (PSA)
Reus (Barcelona) (REU)
Tenerife South (TFS)
Vilnius (VNO)
Warsaw Modlin (WMI)
Wroclaw (WRO)

Ryanair 2013

• Extra aircraft between June-August (now 3 based a/c)
• Increase in flights -v- 2012 (Ryanair)
• New Eastern European routes cancel loss of Wizz Air flights thus will have no effect.

[ryan2000]

Extra flights were only loaded for June and July yesterday. Anyone know if they're operating for August?

[Jack1985]

Anyone know if they're operating for August?

Well obviously they will, would expect them to be loaded during the week. Can't see them wanting to avoid the biggest travelling month in the year.

[EI-A330-300]

FR have released August flights and they include a reduction on both sun and eastren europe routes. LRH dosn't operate and after doing a quick search it would suggest only one aircraft operates all week and the other between Fri and Sun. Third one not required.