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Aer Arann orders 8 ATR 72-600's
Aer Arann to take eight ATR 72-600s | ATWOnline
Aer Arann to take eight ATR 72-600s | ATWOnline
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Ha, ha! Nice one! As you say let us hope it ends the 3 am arrivals into Cork. There have at times been far too many delays and late arrivals into Cork. Maybe the ATR-72 sized aeroplane is Aer Arann's only way to compete with Ryanair though there is a small part of me wondering if they should have been a tiny bit more ambitious and do a FlyBe and have ordered an ERJ 175 sized aircraft to broaden the horizon. Such a size would have been able to seat about 84 or 86 passengers and they would achieve a better range giving more opportunities to try a greater selection of newer routes?
The new ATRs are still good news, of course, and let us wish Aer Arann well with the new deal. Perhaps now is the time for as least risk as possible and that the ATRs better fill that bill!
The new ATRs are still good news, of course, and let us wish Aer Arann well with the new deal. Perhaps now is the time for as least risk as possible and that the ATRs better fill that bill!
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I think they've made the smartest decision imo Tom.
Only recently they were close to bankruptcy but now the relationship with Aer Lingus seems to be paying off. This relationship should be left to organically grow, and purchasing craft which are slightly larger and more efficient as well as your staff are trained for is the best option at the moment. Why? Because it offers the best of both worlds to a cash strapped airline. More capacity and lower fuel bills, and without the expense of retraining staff. Once theyre stabilised in a few years, and cash flows are relatively stable, there relationship with Aer Lingus can mean that they can obtain aircraft that can offer greater capacity on current routes, and allow to operate routes further afield that air buses (e.g. German regional cities) could not profitability operate. So give it time, they'll have jets eventually.
Only recently they were close to bankruptcy but now the relationship with Aer Lingus seems to be paying off. This relationship should be left to organically grow, and purchasing craft which are slightly larger and more efficient as well as your staff are trained for is the best option at the moment. Why? Because it offers the best of both worlds to a cash strapped airline. More capacity and lower fuel bills, and without the expense of retraining staff. Once theyre stabilised in a few years, and cash flows are relatively stable, there relationship with Aer Lingus can mean that they can obtain aircraft that can offer greater capacity on current routes, and allow to operate routes further afield that air buses (e.g. German regional cities) could not profitability operate. So give it time, they'll have jets eventually.
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Does anyone think that a route to Belfast City airport is still viable? I remember Aer Arann running it at twice a day a few years back. Be great to see EI Regional on the route maybe SOU and LBA too
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I think a belfast would work it did very well for re untill they gave up sou may work now that ei lgw is ending
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It looks like the ATR-42 is being retired and that would have been the most suitable aircraft. What I'm confused about in all this is what size fleet RE will have afterwards. It's not clear to me how many of the new aircraft are replacements and how many are expansion.
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I understand the ATR-72-500s and maybe the -600s are faster with better engines than the -200s but do the -200s actually use less fuel due to their being slower flying aeroplanes? I am just curious. Also, is there some other peculiarity about the Air Contractors, the ex Delta machines - something about the engine versus the propellors?? My brain is like a sive now and I no longer remember these things so someone will need to help me out!
Cork is buzzing today and yesterday with many bizjet arrivals - many of which have stayed which is always welcome. Thanks be to God that the days of remote parking at snn seem to have come to an end. Cork is quite like a little mini Luton today!
The best of it is yet to come too, I understand, as there is an absolutely smashing liveried Embraer Legacy due tomorrow morning so if anyone is around look out for that one around 10 am.
Corcaigh Abu - Have not used that one in a long time!
Cork is buzzing today and yesterday with many bizjet arrivals - many of which have stayed which is always welcome. Thanks be to God that the days of remote parking at snn seem to have come to an end. Cork is quite like a little mini Luton today!
The best of it is yet to come too, I understand, as there is an absolutely smashing liveried Embraer Legacy due tomorrow morning so if anyone is around look out for that one around 10 am.
Corcaigh Abu - Have not used that one in a long time!
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Cork is buzzing today and yesterday with many bizjet arrivals - many of which have stayed which is always welcome. Thanks be to God that the days of remote parking at snn seem to have come to an end. Cork is quite like a little mini Luton today!
Embraer Legacy
Hopefully someday Aer Arann will be acquiring a few E-Jet's or maybe even the Bombardier CSeries the amount of potential Aer Arann have on their hands seems to be being underestimated at the moment.
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Only reason Cork is able to facilitate those biz jets is due to the reduction in Commercial flights. If traffic picks up again the same Red Tape issues will arise and aircraft may have to park in Shannon and Kerry. Surely the DAA could create space for a few of the lighter biz jets without spending too much money. They owe it to the region to facilitate high spending tourists and potential investors.
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It's already in the expansion plans when pax numbers surpass 5m (well.. when the DAA has money again) the G/A area will be moved directly West of its current location into something like 3 times its current size with provision of ''overrun'' of stands, It's on the Cork coco website.
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So are EI closing the base in LGW? What about the NOC service?
Then change the times so 3/4 full then pull off route-typical EI! No balls
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Gatwick was a mistake from the onset and totally misguided
London has a significant Irish contingent but the challenge is marketing them. There is just so much marketing going on at the moment that people often just dont see it.
If AerLingus want to make a good of Bases outside of the Island of Ireland where the brand is very well known they need another brand, or a booking portal that is marketed well and supported by AerLingus flights.
They will likely continue to focus on the Core Market of Ireland. Perhaps future growth could come from Irish Airports including regionals with 319s, such as Shannon to Sun spots, Perphaps development of service at Knock, maybe look at Kerry and City of Derry airport? No doubt these would attract a response from their shareholder airline...Not to mention futher development of US service with the advent of 321 NEO and further strengthening of the relationship and range of services provided by Aer Arann.
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Jack1985, easy comment to make, the sad reality here is that if a London base for Aer Lingus does not work, no base outside the Island of Ireland will work..
Shannon to Sun spots,
