IRELAND WEST AIRPORT KNOCK

[Kinocker]

Presumably daily flights then? That would be an upside of losing the jet capacity, FR to EMA likely to see pax growth as a result of this as well.

[Jack1985]

Aer Lingus Regional will launch a single daily flight from Birmingham to Knock effective 10th June 2012 - To be announced on either Monday/Tuesday.

[Mayfly1]

I would not be so sure, don't Flybe and Ryanair also operate services
from Birmingham?
The airport said last week they were negotiating with a number of airlines so I would be surprised if this happened so soon

[airnoc]

The Birmingham route was the first that put Knock Airport on the map outside the london route with mytravellite with a jet so d'ont like the mancherster and leed routes put a small aircraft and lose numbers

[iwak]

I think it's defo aer lingus regional ,I agree with what you say as regards jet capacity but it's about sustainable air services these days and turboprops are a lot cheaper to run than a Boeing or airbus. For knock I'd say jet wise a flybe embraer 175 or 195 would be perfect capacity.

Knock is doing the right thing by keeping their options open by bringing in another airline aer arann.

Anybody know how loads are on new euro routes?..

[PPRuNeUser0176]

I would not be so sure, don't Flybe and Ryanair also operate services
from Birmingham?
The airport said last week they were negotiating with a number of airlines so I would be surprised if this happened so soon

If it was Ryanair then you would lose EMA. EI removed to EI regional DUB flight the day that ww closure was announced...if thats not enough then I don't know what is. Its aer lingus. Flybe would be a good operate but I are almost sure they do have the capacity to operate another route from BHX at the minute.

[airnoc]

HI Aer lingus regional to start bhx flight from June 10th.
Its on knock wikie page

[dublinaviator]

And has since been removed.

[mart901]

Interestingly the SNN-BHX run still has a long gap between flights and as previously mentioned the DUB eir flight has been removed. Far short of something very odd occuring I think its safe to say where that will be heading off to every morning!

[Jack1985]

Interestingly the SNN-BHX run still has a long gap between flights and as previously mentioned the DUB eir flight has been removed. Far short of something very odd occuring I think its safe to say where that will be heading off to every morning!

Yup there should definitely be news tomorrow. Interesting too what Aer Lingus Regional's plans are from here on in with Knock, looks like they could be going head to head with Flybe on Manchester? Hearing reports that Aer Lingus Regional are planning on cancelling their Waterford to London Luton route and doing a W-route from Manchester with the Waterford aircraft, could be a new Knock route or another Irish destination or then again could be used to increase flights to Cork/Shannon.

[NABLAG]

Hearing reports that Aer Lingus Regional are planning on cancelling their Waterford to London Luton route

That would be a big surprise !

[sawtooth]

EIR were clearly ready to announce the route last week, but the airport have been making statements about "negotiating with several airlines" and an announcement "in the next few weeks".

It looks like they are holding out for the best deal, probably in terms of maintaining numbers on what was one of the busiest UK routes while protecting EMA. While a new airline brand would be welcome, at the end of the day EIR are still Aer Arann with all their recent baggage, and they haven't historically been too friendly towards NOC.

[EI-BUD]

The Birmingham route was the first that put Knock Airport on the map outside the london route with mytravellite with a jet so d'ont like the mancherster and leed routes put a small aircraft and lose numbers

airnoc, didnt AerLingus commuter operate a 2 weekly 146 service before mytravel lite came onto the route. I think it did a DUB BHX NOC BHX DUB routing, I think that was mid 90's.....?

EI-BUD

[sawtooth]

I remember EI on the route. But I think airnoc may be referring to the significant numbers MyTravel carried with an A321, I think it was almost 100,000 in the first year and it led to other airlines such as BMI taking interest.

[mart901]

The first airline on the route was Ryanair, on a BAC 1-11 which was switched to Coventry over a landing fees dispute (they've never been any different!). Several years later Loganair ran it on a J41 3 times per week and occaisonally upgraded to ATP. The next operator on the route was Aer Lingus who flew once a week out on Fri eve and return Sun afternoon on an F50 which was dropped when they upraded commuter fleet to 146's. Then after another gap mytravellite ran daily on A320 and then Bmibaby flew in competition with them for a season till mytravellite pulled out.

[EI-BUD]

mart901, Aer Lingus definately did operate 146 on Knock Birmingham. The route appear quite surprisingly out of the blue, I was sure it was x2 weekly. I have some material at home that has the detail, I remembered Ryanair on Coventry and offering bus transfer to Birmingham but didnt remember FR on BHX distinctly.....!

[mart901]

Ryanair weren't at BHX for long before they moved it but I did fly on the route a few times. I was working at BHX and can remember it being F50 departing on a friday about 9pm and then repositioning to DUB, then doing same in reverse on a Sunday.

[mart901]

EI-BUD

If you look at this artice on the Irish government dept of transport website you will see about the EI route;

Department of Transport: 1999

[EI-A330-300]

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Wondered how long it would take NOC to react...now are they a little scared they SNN could get some of the current NOC routes back.

[CONAIR11]

I think they know only to well at Knock that they did particularly well out of SNN downturn and ryanair demise. Maybe now its time for SNN to win back its share.