IRELAND WEST AIRPORT KNOCK
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Fair play to all up there, it's great news.
I wonder how these new routes will work out and how long this good relationship will continue it certainly shows good faith in the airport. Does anyone want to guess what kind of support was offered to them by the government?
I would assume that's it for summer '12 at Knock unless Flybe come and announce something, I do think a summer flight to Jersey would be nice.
Baby is increasingly looking rocky and with fr turning up the heat it doesn't look promising.
I wonder how these new routes will work out and how long this good relationship will continue it certainly shows good faith in the airport. Does anyone want to guess what kind of support was offered to them by the government?
I would assume that's it for summer '12 at Knock unless Flybe come and announce something, I do think a summer flight to Jersey would be nice.
Baby is increasingly looking rocky and with fr turning up the heat it doesn't look promising.
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Baby is increasingly looking rocky and with fr turning up the heat it doesn't look promising.
While there will be timetable shuffles before the new routes commence, with only three aircraft stands and departure gates available it will be tricky to avoid timetable clashes like this one that is currently scheduled for Tuesdays from April onwards:
Edinburgh-Flybe------Arr 12:15 Dep 12:40
Hahn------Ryanair---Arr 12:15 Dep 12:40
Gatwick---Aer Lingus-Arr 12:20 Dep 12:55
Faro------Ryanair----Arr 12:30 Dep 12:55
What are the airport likely to do in this situation? There is a second apron but I'm not aware that IWAK have buses to ferry passengers down there, its used for GA I think. Would they be likely to invest in some airport buses, or try to get the schedules changed? Holding aircraft due to lack of apron space is unlikely to go down too well with low cost airlines like Ryanair I would have thought.
Here's a youtube video with a few interviews from Airport management although it is slightly outdated now with the Ryanair announcement.
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With ryanair revenue, you cannot afford to spend any money on the airport. Capex to expand the apron for a once off, one day a week 30 minute congestion is money wasted, and cannot be accomodated with the FR revenue base.
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NOC had 580k pax in 2010 = 290k departing passengers. At €10 a head for pax 12 and over (lets say 85%), this equals €2.4m or €6,700 a day.
Department of Transport grant = €760,948
Total revenue for the airport is €10.3m
In 2009, operating costs made up 80% of revenue.
This means that there is just €2m left for non operating costs, including paying loans and urgent capex.
In 2010, profits equaled €293,960. Cant lay much 738 PCN standard concrete for that.
Department of Transport grant = €760,948
Total revenue for the airport is €10.3m
In 2009, operating costs made up 80% of revenue.
This means that there is just €2m left for non operating costs, including paying loans and urgent capex.
In 2010, profits equaled €293,960. Cant lay much 738 PCN standard concrete for that.
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Cant lay much 738 PCN standard concrete for that.
If it does go ahead I wonder if they will go for a straight forward extension of the current apron northward, adding 3/4 stands. Or will they also extend east to allow for the central pier plan and future looping taxiway to 27 (but requiring the relocation of the fuel farm)?
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Michael Ring's turn today...
Monday, 28 november 2011 08:34
An investment of €4m euro has been announced this morning for Ireland West Airport Knock by minister of state at the department of tourism and sport Michael Ring.
The money will be used to extend the runway in a safety capacity and also for the upgrade of security equipment at the airport.
The announcement comes just one week after Ryanair announced four new routes out of the airport to Milan, Paris, Barcelona Girona and Frankfurt.
The funding is being granted under the capital investment programme and 35 construction jobs will be created when work begins on the project.
An investment of €4m euro has been announced this morning for Ireland West Airport Knock by minister of state at the department of tourism and sport Michael Ring.
The money will be used to extend the runway in a safety capacity and also for the upgrade of security equipment at the airport.
The announcement comes just one week after Ryanair announced four new routes out of the airport to Milan, Paris, Barcelona Girona and Frankfurt.
The funding is being granted under the capital investment programme and 35 construction jobs will be created when work begins on the project.
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I think the IAA required the RESAs be installed a few years back. 09 was installed first being the main landing direction, removing the drop at the end and adding a turn pad extension. So I guess this will complete that project on the 27 end.
So main benefits obviously safety and wider turning circles for wide body aircraft. Approach lighting may be included though I think it's already CAT3? It should also mean the displaced threshold on 09 is removed bringing the runway length up to 2490, anyone confirm?
So main benefits obviously safety and wider turning circles for wide body aircraft. Approach lighting may be included though I think it's already CAT3? It should also mean the displaced threshold on 09 is removed bringing the runway length up to 2490, anyone confirm?
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I was up at Knock today and saw their sign about the €10, it said "This is a service charge which the airport charges for the use of its fascilities and as a contribution towards infrastructure developments, including passenger and airline services, ongoing maintenance and operation of this airport."
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I think people should be told about it at the time of booking.
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FR don't tell passengers about any airport departure becaust MOL said that hw will not operate from airports that have departure fees. Yet he is at NOC and if NOC push for them to let passengers know at the time of booking it could turn out bad for NOC and FR don't like being told what to do.
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€4m is a subsidy of over €12 per departing passenger just to maintain standards. Regional airports need subsidies to survive and am pleased to see the government of Ireland investing prudently in infrastructure.
Lets not pretend though that NOC, etc are profitable airports.
Lets not pretend though that NOC, etc are profitable airports.
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NOC ask all airlines/tour operators to collect the fee and let passengers know about it. All have refused to collect it on behalf of the airport but all except Ryanair not sure about Bmibaby tell passengers about the fee. The airport can't force Ryanair to let people know as the airlines don't need to let passengers know under Irish or EU law.