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In fairness though now BHX-ORK is up to 3 daily and even at 2 daily its only about 24 seats off the daily A320 EI were running. WW went before their arrival. At NOC the capacity is dropping from 148 to 66 a day. A think the wash of seats at £19 o/w will dry up very quickly, that said it does probably make more commercial sense than a jet aircraft flooded with loss making passengers.
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Indeed, and thats in May. As I've said its great to have them on the route but the capacity is the issue. WW have really grown the route in recent months, it would be a shame if they haven't the capacity to offer extra flights. It really could just help FR at EMA which would be a shame.
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For those who say passengers don't care about aircraft type... The BHX discussion made it to local radio in the West over the last two days.
Several callers commented negativity abut Aer Arann operating the route, concerned about aircraft size and ability to cater for multiple old and wheelchair pax. Comments included higher prices, "not enough capacity on small plane", "lots of delays", "they won't send the plane", "you'd be thrown around in those things" from one caller.
Radio chat shows always taken with a pinch of salt but those were the same complaints often heard about the PSO service. EIR have some work to do in winning back trust after their poor history at NOC.
Several callers commented negativity abut Aer Arann operating the route, concerned about aircraft size and ability to cater for multiple old and wheelchair pax. Comments included higher prices, "not enough capacity on small plane", "lots of delays", "they won't send the plane", "you'd be thrown around in those things" from one caller.
Radio chat shows always taken with a pinch of salt but those were the same complaints often heard about the PSO service. EIR have some work to do in winning back trust after their poor history at NOC.
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In terms of the a/c scheduled in they are the 72-212's, two of which are re-fitted air contractors SLL and SLN. The other two in the fleet are REH and REI which have had half a re-paint and not sure about the interiors. It might be worth people on the radio pointing out that most PAX at NOC fly with FR and they are not exactly wheelchair friendly
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Interesting post Sawtooth, just shows the animosity that remains towards Aer Arann at Knock. Although this is different to the PSO in that if they 'don't send the plane' this time, the passengers will have some job on their hands getting to Birmingham. I think, in an ideal world, you'd like to tell RE to go do one and stay away from Knock but they're coming back and without an airport up the road at Galway to pre-occupy them, you can only hope they'll do better this time. However, if they become another flyglobespan, or we get a repeat of the PSO shambles, maybe someone else will compete with them on the route and do a better job. Otherwise Ryanair will clean up on their EMA route.
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Hi Could Aer Lingus Regional not lease the bmibaby aircraft and change the colour scheme on as it would be best suited for this route
I still think that the aircraft on this route will have to be change as this good route for pax numbers will disapper very fast and now that the summers months are here NOC does not to lose numbers now and have nothing for the winter.
Flybe is the best option with Embraer 195or maybe EI A320/A319
I still think that the aircraft on this route will have to be change as this good route for pax numbers will disapper very fast and now that the summers months are here NOC does not to lose numbers now and have nothing for the winter.
Flybe is the best option with Embraer 195or maybe EI A320/A319
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People should also remember that as part of the franchise agreement, Aer Lingus would have a service level agreement in place with Aer Arann which would specify the criteria that Aer Arann must meet such as punctuality, on-board service, customer service etc. So if they f**k this up, it won't just be angry passengers they'll have to deal with, it'll also be Aer Lingus.
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Hi Could Aer Lingus Regional not lease the bmibaby aircraft and change the colour scheme on as it would be best suited for this route
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We don't know the full details of the EIR agreement or what involvement EI have in planning. But why would Aer Arann open and build up routes, paying EI a franchise fee, only for EI to cherry pick once established, potentially wiping out their business? Perhaps there is some clause allowing this, anyone illuminate us on the workings of the partnership?
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In reply to what people have said regarding EI not cherry picking EIR routes just read this article, it also does give some hope to BHX-NOC seeing a jet service, although I appreciate that could be a long way off and might never happen. On a seperate note it would appear looking at the website that the seats are certainly selling fast over summer.
Aer Lingus unlikely to reintroduce Cork-Dublin route, says CEO | Irish Examiner
Aer Lingus unlikely to reintroduce Cork-Dublin route, says CEO | Irish Examiner
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rumour has it that some Baby 733/735 (which have long leases) will replace BA 734s which would otherwise have heavy (expensive) checks ahead of them.
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JP968 17:55 ROMA / FIUMICINOGood to charter in from Rome after all that where the first flights from noc went to.
Any chance that luton would go daily as it does in winter or an extra flight in the late evening from the other london airport?
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Ryaniar have released winter schedule from NOC and not much change so far. I'm sure there will be changes but from yesterday they have:
STN - daily
LTN - daily
LPL - daily
EMA - 3 weekly (would expect to increase to 5/6 weekly)
ACE - 1 weekly
STN - daily
LTN - daily
LPL - daily
EMA - 3 weekly (would expect to increase to 5/6 weekly)
ACE - 1 weekly
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Just in the climb out of Knock WW1092, never mind next one comes along tomorrow in the form of EI Regional.
Could be worse East Mids lose about 7 or 8 destinations overnight.
Pete
Just in the climb out of Knock WW1092, never mind next one comes along tomorrow in the form of EI Regional.
Could be worse East Mids lose about 7 or 8 destinations overnight.
Pete