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Old 8th Apr 2012, 23:36
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Anybody any idea how flybe routes are performing ?

Fares seem fairly low on new euro routes but I suppose it's early days yet .

Airport management have said they hope to be in a position to announce a new glasgow route at the end of the year. I reckon a gla and edi route would be overkill. I presume it's either flybe,loganair or ei regional that would operate the route.
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Old 14th Apr 2012, 23:16
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NOC-Girona had a LF of 36% for the 6 flights in March.
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Old 14th Apr 2012, 23:32
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Well I was at the airport last Tuesday and well over 100 arrived and departed on the girona flight and over 140 arrived on the Hahn flight reported by the marketing manager on local radio during the wk.
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I think GRO will do the best in yeild and passengers but you need to remenber that its Easter Hoildays and Girona and Milan are bound to do very well with Irish Passengers anyway.
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Old 16th Apr 2012, 17:59
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I think GRO will do the best in yeild and passengers but you need to remenber that its Easter Hoildays and Girona and Milan are bound to do very well with Irish Passengers anyway.
I took one of the first BGY flights, just over 50 each way, lovely city by the way and a good base to visit Verona, Lake Garda/Como & Milan. One family onboard had come from west Cork!

March UK CAA figures show some growth:
LGW 6058 +20%
BHX 3563 +19%
LPL 7088 +23%

MAN 1702 – 42% (SNN-MAN +34%)
MAN could be down to FlyBe lower aircraft capacity, but brand awareness and cost must be a factor, looking at a weekend in June FR LPL headline fare is €36 return, BE MAN €119. Extra frequency at weekends could help make BE more attractive.
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Old 16th Apr 2012, 18:39
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One family onboard had come from west Cork!
Jesus do people even think of supporting their own airports anymore?
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Old 17th Apr 2012, 21:33
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Flew to bergamo last year from dub heading to lake Garda. One of The better ryanair airports I have to say. What was the load factor like on the flight from noc to bgy?

Any news on the new business lounge at knock!!
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Old 19th Apr 2012, 14:24
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I see there are four planes on the ground at Knock right now, 2 Ryanairs from Hahn and East Midlands, a Flybe from Leeds going out to Manchester and a Bmibaby from Birmingham.

Does anyone know how IWAK are handling these situations with the limited apron space as they will be common this summer? Will the East Midlands flight (as the last one in) have to wait on the runway until one of the others pulls out or can they get the other apron into use? The main apron badly needs extending at this stage.
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Old 19th Apr 2012, 16:08
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Most of the time one will be departing after the 4th arrives. In the past with 27 in use aircraft 4 on arrival would backtrack and hold taxiway alpha while one of the other 3 exited left to the turntable for 27 departure, allowing the arrival proceed to the stand. Apron b is also a possibility I guess but haven't seen it used other than when work was carried out on the main apron.

Any word on the apron extension happening? It will surely be a priority if there is to be further growth next year or any possibility of based aircraft. The planned landside parking and entrance road improvements also seem to be on hold.
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Old 20th Apr 2012, 22:52
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March stats are out reported on Derry thread that edi was 65% lf and man 75%. if these are correct its a very good performance.

I think that the earlier sun departure from Edinburgh from end of April may effect weekend traffic from knock.
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Old 21st Apr 2012, 12:10
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Don't think the 65% for Edinburgh is right anyway, doesn't tie in with my experience of using the route. Hopefully it gets good summer loads, the fact that it didn't run for much of January and February shows that it is a fairly marginal route in the winter months.
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Had a quick look at Flybe winter schedule released today and MAN back to 4 weekly. ED remains 3 weekly and LBA appears to be dropped or seasonal.
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Old 2nd May 2012, 18:42
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March traffic up 3.1% to just under 46,500 passengers.
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Old 2nd May 2012, 19:07
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Good to see that the growth continued right through the winter despite the loss of a couple of routes. Knock continues to buck the overall trend of pax reductions that are still being seen at the three state airports.

Hopefully April onwards will see an even bigger jump in numbers. It will also be good to have Lufty arriving for the first time at Knock this Saturday.
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Old 3rd May 2012, 15:55
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Sad to see BMI Baby to wind down and cease NOC route from Monday 11th June along with many of their other routes (see BMI Baby thread).

WW had a long history at the airport and were FRs only competition for many years 735/733 to MAN, BHX and GLA for a time, double daily on MAN at one point. I always found their service and staff very good.

I'm sure BE will be looking on and they have been quick to move in on WWs EMA base. While the retention of the BHX route would be wonderful it would a bit disappointing to see the loss of more jet capacity after MAN and LBA downgraded without frequency gain. FR of course have a BHX base but have now established the EMA route. EI operated NOC-BHX in the past and EIR supposedly kept an afternoon gap in one of the SNN aircraft schedules for this scenario up until recently.
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Old 3rd May 2012, 18:01
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BHX Service

I would think that it is almost a given that the ATR that operates to Dublin in the middle of the Shannon schedule from BHX will change to Knock as soon as the Baby flights finish. My understanding is that was the plan until Baby ramped up the frequency on the route.

Dublin on the ATR is not needed and any displaced customers can easily be accommodated on other flights.

It just makes sense.

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Old 3rd May 2012, 19:48
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Perhaps We may see aer lingus mainline over the summer and regional for the winter .

It's sad to see the end of baby they really gave the airport passenger increases when ryanair didn't. I definitely agree it won't really help passenger volumes if all uk regional routes are operated by turboprops.

You need loco jets to keep pax numbers on the increase. Still wouldnt like to see fr get the route . First preference would be ei then be.
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Old 3rd May 2012, 21:57
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Perhaps We may see aer lingus mainline over the summer and regional for the winter .
You will see more Aer Lingus but it will be regional not mainline for the summer. Flights will begin on 11 June...
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Old 3rd May 2012, 22:38
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I can't get into the dub bhx booking engine on aer lingus , we might have news in days rather than weeks on a new bhx operator.
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Old 3rd May 2012, 22:59
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EI on BHX

You are correct, the DUB/BHX can be booked on the 10th June but not after that, I would guess that it will be changed by morning and that Knock/BHX will be bookable soon, perhaps even in the morning as well.

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