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The first official stats for the new NOC-EDI route (April provisional stats from the CAA) state that 502 people used the first 10 flights for an average load factor of 64.4%.
This suggests that all the anecdotal evidence was spot on and it looks like a very encouraging start for flybe on the route.
Edit - that is the good news...the bad news is that the ash cloud seems to be steadily closing in and the EDI route may be the first to be hit. Flybe haven't pulled their flights from Edinburgh yet, but Aberdeen and Inverness flights are cancelled so it might not be too far away. Of course if the cloud continues its trek south, Knock itself will soon be in the firing line.
This suggests that all the anecdotal evidence was spot on and it looks like a very encouraging start for flybe on the route.
Edit - that is the good news...the bad news is that the ash cloud seems to be steadily closing in and the EDI route may be the first to be hit. Flybe haven't pulled their flights from Edinburgh yet, but Aberdeen and Inverness flights are cancelled so it might not be too far away. Of course if the cloud continues its trek south, Knock itself will soon be in the firing line.
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LBA and BRS routes are no longer bookable on the Ryanair website after the end of October. Ryanair had spoken earlier in the week about doubling the number of parked aircraft in the winter months. Perhaps this is part of the reduction being planned. If Ryanair were to cut any routes from Knock it would be these ones as they have the lowest average loads, but as things stand this would leave LPL as the only north of England route with a replacement for MAN not yet announced.
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Its the same at LDY up until yesterday STN was double daily from Nov but from today double daily is on Sun & Fri only. I put it down to the fact that RYR are groundin a 1/3 of their fleet for Winter 11. Although they could just be putting some last minute tweaks in place. 2 routes is alot to lose for a regional airport.
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I'd be surprised if this was tweaking to be honest, maybe your contact at Ryanair ops could confirm?
I was looking through last years numbers for the two routes there to see how they held up in the summer season - but apart from in the height of summer (i.e. August) when loads were high I'd say its borderline whether enough people have been using them to justify bringing them back seasonally next year.
Bristol (and the south west of England & south Wales as a whole) looks a bit like the Edinburgh/Scotland market to me, there's definitely demand for a service, but probably not enough demand to justify a 738. One that the regional airlines may well look at as they would not have Ryanair competition to contend with, similar to flybe currently at Edinburgh. Leeds I'm not so sure about, if there is a regular service to both Manchester and Liverpool I wouldn't see too many airlines queueing up to offer a competing service to Leeds. Many of the passengers on that service have been enticed over from Manchester by cheap Ryanair fares.
Securing a new service from Manchester is more important than ever now though.
On the up side, the summer schedule is really kicking into gear now - 24 aircraft movements scheduled for tomorrow involving 11 different destinations from six different airlines including flights to and from Edinburgh, Reus, Lanzarote and two to & from Faro. Arrivals and departures boards looking nice and full which is good to see.
I was looking through last years numbers for the two routes there to see how they held up in the summer season - but apart from in the height of summer (i.e. August) when loads were high I'd say its borderline whether enough people have been using them to justify bringing them back seasonally next year.
Bristol (and the south west of England & south Wales as a whole) looks a bit like the Edinburgh/Scotland market to me, there's definitely demand for a service, but probably not enough demand to justify a 738. One that the regional airlines may well look at as they would not have Ryanair competition to contend with, similar to flybe currently at Edinburgh. Leeds I'm not so sure about, if there is a regular service to both Manchester and Liverpool I wouldn't see too many airlines queueing up to offer a competing service to Leeds. Many of the passengers on that service have been enticed over from Manchester by cheap Ryanair fares.
Securing a new service from Manchester is more important than ever now though.
On the up side, the summer schedule is really kicking into gear now - 24 aircraft movements scheduled for tomorrow involving 11 different destinations from six different airlines including flights to and from Edinburgh, Reus, Lanzarote and two to & from Faro. Arrivals and departures boards looking nice and full which is good to see.
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LBA no surprise it has preformed poorly since it started.
BRS a surprise but operating on Tues, Thur and Sat last winter and was due to this winter doesn't help as all weekend travel lost.
BRS a surprise but operating on Tues, Thur and Sat last winter and was due to this winter doesn't help as all weekend travel lost.
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NOC was on the Ryanair press release about LBA winter schedule launch. Has it been confirmed? Would have expected them to keep it with WW leaving MAN, though it was marginal.
Ryanair Launches Leeds Bradford Winter Schedule With 11 Routes
Ryanair Launches Leeds Bradford Winter Schedule With 11 Routes
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Havent seen it confirmed anywhere but both routes were bookable for next winter up to about three days ago, but haven't been bookable since.
While I hope it's due to schedule tinkering I think it's more likely they've been cut based on ryanairs decision to park up more aircraft for the winter. Hopefully if that is the case they will be back in the spring.
While I hope it's due to schedule tinkering I think it's more likely they've been cut based on ryanairs decision to park up more aircraft for the winter. Hopefully if that is the case they will be back in the spring.
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As the routes were bookable it unlike Ryanair to remove them from the system as if there are time and day changes being made they would just remove the current days/time and have 7 airplanes crossed out. Only time will tell.
Could there of being any disagreement with NOC airport over the €10 charged on departure or airport charges as they are just about breaking even according to news reports lately.
Could there of being any disagreement with NOC airport over the €10 charged on departure or airport charges as they are just about breaking even according to news reports lately.
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I doubt there is any particular issue with regard to the departure charge, Ryanair and IWAK have always just agreed to disagree on that one and it hasn't prevented Ryanair expanding their route network before.
Anyone know what kind of aircraft Air Méditerranée are using for their charter flights today? They have three departures on the board, I don't know if its the same plane ferrying over and back to France or if there are multiple flights? The additional charters will make for a very busy departure lounge today though in additional to the regular scheduled services.
Anyone know what kind of aircraft Air Méditerranée are using for their charter flights today? They have three departures on the board, I don't know if its the same plane ferrying over and back to France or if there are multiple flights? The additional charters will make for a very busy departure lounge today though in additional to the regular scheduled services.
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Anyone know what kind of aircraft Air Méditerranée are using for their charter flights today? They have three departures on the board, I don't know if its the same plane ferrying over and back to France or if there are multiple flights? The additional charters will make for a very busy departure lounge today though in additional to the regular scheduled services.
Hi I agree that it will a busy day at Ire West Knock with three charters to Lourdes. Would this there busy day yet this year so far?
I think Flybe should look at Brs, Alc & Lba seem that ryr are gone for the time been.
Anyone know what kind of aircraft Air Méditerranée are using for their charter flights today? They have three departures on the board, I don't know if its the same plane ferrying over and back to France or if there are multiple flights? The additional charters will make for a very busy departure lounge today though in additional to the regular scheduled services.
Hi I agree that it will a busy day at Ire West Knock with three charters to Lourdes. Would this there busy day yet this year so far?
I think Flybe should look at Brs, Alc & Lba seem that ryr are gone for the time been.
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Since Ryanair’s first UK flight departed from London Gatwick to Dublin in July 1985 Ryanair has opened 10 UK bases and offers flights on over 370 routes from 17 UK airports
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Sad to see BRS go as I used the service several times, FR may well be watching the MAN situation with LBA. But the figures will prove there is demand with the right equipment.
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The airport was open 25 years last week, busiest month in April and expecting their busiest year to date. Touting 40% share of UK market from the West. Good to hear the main focus is on securing inbound European routes according to the management.
But any route loss makes an impact on a small airports figures and hopes of a based aircraft seem slim in the short-term unless FR engage with the Governments tourism incentive plan next Summer.
Ireland West Airport Knock celebrates 25 years - Galway Independent
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The airport was open 25 years last week, busiest month in April and expecting their busiest year to date. Touting 40% share of UK market from the West. Good to hear the main focus is on securing inbound European routes according to the management.
But any route loss makes an impact on a small airports figures and hopes of a based aircraft seem slim in the short-term unless FR engage with the Governments tourism incentive plan next Summer.
Ireland West Airport Knock celebrates 25 years - Galway Independent
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The airport was open 25 years last week, busiest month in April
If any airline was to base a plane at the moment it would most likely be a regional one - for instance if flybe added MAN and BRS to their EDI service and one hub connection (lets say CDG), that would probably be enough to base a plane. I think they would be successful too as both MAN and BRS are proven routes, but there appears to be no sign of it happening at present.
Of course we don't know whether Ryanair are planning to run BRS seasonally. If summer loads are strong, they may well do.
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The article says it had its busiest ever month in April but that cannot possibly be correct, busiest April probably, but it could not possibly have been busier than a typical July or August at the airport.
Interesting route numbers table on that page also. wikipedia
Anna aero feature on the airport:
ireland-west-airport-knock-celebrates-25th-anniversary/
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