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Old 14th Sep 2011, 18:21
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Most admit didn't see that coming but I fear that Ryanair will fly Weeze just to make a point. They have done it at many other airprots and have won the battle.

According to NOC website its once weekly.
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Old 14th Sep 2011, 20:25
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Don't see this as a threat to FR, it's primarily going to be an inbound tourism route with this schedule and connections, like the Swiss Zurich route that ran for several years. Great route though and potential to grow. And FR have been on the inbound tourism bandwagon lately playing cat and mouse with Varadkar, so they cant then turn around and comlain when someone beats them to it.

Funny, looks like while MOL was giving interviews at NOC saying the airport should be focusing on German and French routes the Minister was upstairs doing the launch photo-op for Lufty!
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Old 14th Sep 2011, 20:40
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Just heard the news, looks like a major coup getting Lufty in, canadair craft initially but I see this being much different to Zurich, no comparison with Swiss tourists compared to germans as thousands of Germans visit the west each year plus from looking at connections offers great connectivity (short layover time) to the likes of Frankfurt which opens up conenctions to Lufty network worldwide so see plenty of opportunity for outbound as well which wasnt case with zurich. Hopefully it goes well and they expand as great to see such an established brand in and im sjure if goes well we will see the 737-800 on the route in the future
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Old 14th Sep 2011, 20:41
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Hopefully Ryanair don't do anything like that. Although if IWAK have been looking for airlines to set up German routes - and it appears from this announcement that they have - maybe Hahn is more likely to be one of the routes they are discussing with Ryanair. A three weekly to Hahn could maybe co-exist with the Dusseldorf service without them driving each other off the routes. Opening a Weeze route would just be petty.
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Old 14th Sep 2011, 21:27
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And FR have been on the inbound tourism bandwagon lately playing cat and mouse with Varadkar, so they cant then turn around and comlain when someone beats them to it.
Its Ryanair they can do what they like so if they want to open Weeze they will.

Weeze done realy well while at SNN and KIR and don't see why it wont be the same at NOC if opened but hope they don't.
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Old 14th Sep 2011, 21:53
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Well done to management at knock on this one ,great to have a brand like this at the airport.

I'm sure enda kenny is assisting his county airport in any way he can.

Rumour has it locally in the west that ryanair are going to launch a base at noc.We will have to wait nd see wether this comes to fruition.

I would imagine Hahn and Malaga are the European routes with Bristol being the uk route which fr are in discussions about, or maybe prestwick might be a contender. Anyway it's all about volume for knock and ryanair is the one to deliver it.

However they need to develop winter business ,I know it will never be near the same numbers as summer but day return stn and daily man for example could achieve decent loads if marketed correctly with low fares.
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Old 15th Sep 2011, 09:05
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Congrats on gaining Lufty guys. I might have to try it out for myself. I've been trying to find out what the prices will be like but NOC doesn't seem to be on the Lufthansa webpage yet.
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Old 15th Sep 2011, 10:35
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It's there if you search NOC - DUS, but the website database doesn't seem to have NOC added yet so it doesn't auto complete.

€377 return for a random date at end of May 2012, which includes baggage and €101 of heafty German air taxes and charges.
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Old 15th Sep 2011, 10:37
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Lufty service sounds very similar to the Summer one that they run DUS-NQY, bringing German tourists to Cornwall (once weekly on a Sat, Jun-Sept IIRC).

This has been running a few years now and although planned to be on a CRJ did see a 735 for at least some of the season this year.
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Old 15th Sep 2011, 12:02
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They are quite expensive, maybe i'll have a think about trying the route now!
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Old 17th Sep 2011, 07:51
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Check fares again Lufthansa website being updated, returns starting at €137 for economy saver, then €188 for standard and so on...Might be worth a trip after all also possible to book one ways....
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Old 24th Sep 2011, 21:54
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Hi I was looking at clip on rte web the day ryanair 4m pax at Ire West Knock.
What was Stephen McMamara carrying with him or did anyone else this?
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Old 26th Sep 2011, 21:52
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Ryanair have moved the Monday STN back to an 0810 arrival & 08.35 departure again. Did NOC ask them to move it back or did FR just do it. Very unlike FR to turn down a free slot at lunchtime.
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Old 27th Sep 2011, 09:10
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Maybe the loss of Monday morning combined with early Sunday return flights were adversely hitting weekend bookings?
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Old 27th Sep 2011, 11:35
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The Monday early am outbound departure to London was an important part of the service offering from the airport for weekend commuters from London to the west last winter and I would say the airport recognises this and worked with FR to keep this service in place, despite the possible commerical implications of having an inbound London service departing 6.30am on a Monday to the west and the pax implications of that
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Old 28th Sep 2011, 20:23
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Lgw on sale for summer 2012 daily. Faro on sale also, same as this summer. Anyone any idea of the 3 routes which Michael oleary mentioned for summer 12 on his recent visit to the airport
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Old 7th Oct 2011, 12:59
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Over half the Summer scheduled routes now bookable, EMA only FR UK route so far:

June 2012
LGW EI 7x M T W T F S S
BHX WW 4/5x M T W – F – S
MAN BE 4x M – W – F – S
EDI BE 3x – T – – F – S
DUS LH 1x – – – – – – S
EMA FR 4x M – W – F – S
FAO FR 3x – T – T – S –
ACE FR 1x – – –T – – –
TFS FR 1x – –W – – –
LPA FR 1x –T– – – – –

ALC FR Not loaded
REU FR Not loaded
LTN FR Not loaded
STN FR Not loaded
LPL FR Not loaded
LBA FR Still in system
BRS FR Still in system
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Old 7th Oct 2011, 14:42
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The BHX WW should be 4/5x MT-TF-S. I don't see any Wednesday flight for them in June on the online timetable.
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Old 12th Oct 2011, 17:40
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NOC - BRS with FR back for summer 2012 3 weekly, LTN and LPL also on sale.
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Old 13th Oct 2011, 13:35
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Switching BRS to seasonal makes sense, loads were good during the summer but terrible last winter. Hopefully that means it wasn't one of the 'three new routes' that were said to be under consideration by Ryanair.
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