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Given that it's a Sunday today and ops start at lunchtime, you would have thought they would have escaped the early morning pea-souper, but in fact it got progressively worse again through the afternoon. I heard one departure and one go-around all day, and that was it.
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Yup, only the first six aircraft got in yesterday - and the first two of them went round once each.
Today we had maybe two or three hours of landings, early afternoon - that's it again.
Today we had maybe two or three hours of landings, early afternoon - that's it again.
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Bizarre things going on at Skywork:
The lessor is pulling the Saab 2000, so depending on demand they will just use two of their own Dornier 328s... Not sure if the Dorniers 328s are approved for towing, that owuld be the most economical solution.
They plan to have two own Saabs with effect sommer schedule.
The lessor is pulling the Saab 2000, so depending on demand they will just use two of their own Dornier 328s... Not sure if the Dorniers 328s are approved for towing, that owuld be the most economical solution.
They plan to have two own Saabs with effect sommer schedule.
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I am flying to Zurich in February, Business class with BA. Can anyone advise me if there is a BA lounge at the airport.????
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I can't recall as many missed approaches as we have had in the last 24 hours for a long, long time. You guys and girls are sure having a hard time in the current strong crosswinds.
Purely anecdotal, but the Embraer 190 seems particularly liable to going around, other types not so much. Is this just poor observation by me, or reality ?
Purely anecdotal, but the Embraer 190 seems particularly liable to going around, other types not so much. Is this just poor observation by me, or reality ?
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From LCY website, explains the holding at the moment:
"Passenger Update - Wednesday 27th January 2016 -The Connaught Bridge will open at high tide today to facilitate the movement of a NATO Warship,
Further details below:
Spanish tanker is to be positioned from lock onto Dolphin 2. From the point it leaves the lock to the time confirmed on Dolphin 2 ILS is off and no movements. Tanker is technically safeguarded when on Dolphin 2.
Spanish tanker arrives on high tide into lock at aprox 1546. Will be ready to leave lock at aprox 1605.
Manoeuvre from lock to Dolphin 2 will take max 20 mins. A gap in arrivals for sometime after 1605 will need to be co-ordinated with TC – preferably well in advance so that they can slow a/c down en-route to minimise air holding. RoDMA are flexible on the timing of the transit – it should be arranged to minimise the amount of air holding. When we have an idea of the planned time advise RoDMA as they will start to lift the bridge 3 mins prior so that the tanker can move as soon as the gap in traffic begins.
The airport will NOTAM advising that additional air holding may be required 1600-1700.
ADM will be in the tower and will tell RoDMA when tanker is allowed to begin transit from the lock. RoDMA will tell ADM when tanker in position on Dolphin 2. Tugs will be used to manoeuvre tanker but provided they are the Spitzer tugs on the safeguarded list movements can resume as soon as the tanker is confirmed in position on Dolphin 2.
The tanker will be repositioned into the lock in the early hours of 28th Jan.
Two other vessels will be positioned into the RVD out of hours on the night of the 27th, they will advise us in advance of any transmissions they wish to make so that we can assess."
First inbound now on it's way in. For future passengers sake, hope that not too many tall ships affect the airport in this way!
"Passenger Update - Wednesday 27th January 2016 -The Connaught Bridge will open at high tide today to facilitate the movement of a NATO Warship,
Further details below:
Spanish tanker is to be positioned from lock onto Dolphin 2. From the point it leaves the lock to the time confirmed on Dolphin 2 ILS is off and no movements. Tanker is technically safeguarded when on Dolphin 2.
Spanish tanker arrives on high tide into lock at aprox 1546. Will be ready to leave lock at aprox 1605.
Manoeuvre from lock to Dolphin 2 will take max 20 mins. A gap in arrivals for sometime after 1605 will need to be co-ordinated with TC – preferably well in advance so that they can slow a/c down en-route to minimise air holding. RoDMA are flexible on the timing of the transit – it should be arranged to minimise the amount of air holding. When we have an idea of the planned time advise RoDMA as they will start to lift the bridge 3 mins prior so that the tanker can move as soon as the gap in traffic begins.
The airport will NOTAM advising that additional air holding may be required 1600-1700.
ADM will be in the tower and will tell RoDMA when tanker is allowed to begin transit from the lock. RoDMA will tell ADM when tanker in position on Dolphin 2. Tugs will be used to manoeuvre tanker but provided they are the Spitzer tugs on the safeguarded list movements can resume as soon as the tanker is confirmed in position on Dolphin 2.
The tanker will be repositioned into the lock in the early hours of 28th Jan.
Two other vessels will be positioned into the RVD out of hours on the night of the 27th, they will advise us in advance of any transmissions they wish to make so that we can assess."
First inbound now on it's way in. For future passengers sake, hope that not too many tall ships affect the airport in this way!
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So this is for the London Boat show? HMS Iron Duke is also inbound to the Royal Docks. having seen them get ships in and out on a Saturday afternoon when LCY is closed, do they really move ships under the 27 ILS during opening hours?
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So this is for the London Boat show? HMS Iron Duke is also inbound to the Royal Docks. having seen them get ships in and out on a Saturday afternoon when LCY is closed, do they really move ships under the 27 ILS during opening hours?
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No, not the Boat Show, that was earlier this month. Reason for her visit doesn't seem to be public. Another vessel in there too.
Larger vessels (such as Iron Duke) are usually brought through the dock past the runway when the airport is closed - indeed Iron Duke was in before dawn this morning. It causes a mess with traffic as queues quickly build up at the Connaught Bridge.
But it's not an absolute rule. One of the large sunseeker type boats that came to the boat show went through on a mid afternoon on a weekday when there was a natural lull in flight movements.
Larger vessels (such as Iron Duke) are usually brought through the dock past the runway when the airport is closed - indeed Iron Duke was in before dawn this morning. It causes a mess with traffic as queues quickly build up at the Connaught Bridge.
But it's not an absolute rule. One of the large sunseeker type boats that came to the boat show went through on a mid afternoon on a weekday when there was a natural lull in flight movements.
From Travel Mole:
Airlines threaten to pull out of London City
Three of London City's biggest airlines have allegedly threatened to pull their services if a new owner raises fees to fund its investment.
The airport's current owners, US private equity firm Global Infrastructure Partners, has set a deadline of this Friday for final bids and it is believed to have attracted interest from five parties.
However, British Airways, CityJet and Flybe, which together account for 70% of passengers using London City, are concerned that any new owner would have to raise fees to cover the £2 billion asking price for the airport.
"Any potential new owner for London City should be left in no doubt that British Airways can move flights elsewhere if it ramps up airport charges to fund its investment," a spokesperson for British Airways owner International Airlines Group said.
An investigation commissioned by BA and CityJet showed that fees are likely to be raised if the airport is sold at the full £2 billion asking price.
"This brings into question the long term sustainability of airline operations at London City Airport," said CityJet executive chairman Pat Byrne.
Willie Walsh, chief executive of BA parent IAG has slammed the £2 billion price tag as 'foolish' as it represents 44 times London City's pre-tax earnings. "BA's customers will not swallow increased fares to fund unrealistic returns for a monopoly airport supplier."
Walsh told the FT that the airline could not afford any increase in charges at London City, where it accounts for about 40% of the passengers.
Parties to have expressed interest in the airport are Asia's richest man Li Ka-Shing, Chinese aviation firm HNA and a consortium made up of the Kuwait Investment Authority, Borealis Infrastructure, AIMCo, Hermes and the Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan.
It was bought by GIP 10 years ago for £750 million.
Airlines threaten to pull out of London City
Three of London City's biggest airlines have allegedly threatened to pull their services if a new owner raises fees to fund its investment.
The airport's current owners, US private equity firm Global Infrastructure Partners, has set a deadline of this Friday for final bids and it is believed to have attracted interest from five parties.
However, British Airways, CityJet and Flybe, which together account for 70% of passengers using London City, are concerned that any new owner would have to raise fees to cover the £2 billion asking price for the airport.
"Any potential new owner for London City should be left in no doubt that British Airways can move flights elsewhere if it ramps up airport charges to fund its investment," a spokesperson for British Airways owner International Airlines Group said.
An investigation commissioned by BA and CityJet showed that fees are likely to be raised if the airport is sold at the full £2 billion asking price.
"This brings into question the long term sustainability of airline operations at London City Airport," said CityJet executive chairman Pat Byrne.
Willie Walsh, chief executive of BA parent IAG has slammed the £2 billion price tag as 'foolish' as it represents 44 times London City's pre-tax earnings. "BA's customers will not swallow increased fares to fund unrealistic returns for a monopoly airport supplier."
Walsh told the FT that the airline could not afford any increase in charges at London City, where it accounts for about 40% of the passengers.
Parties to have expressed interest in the airport are Asia's richest man Li Ka-Shing, Chinese aviation firm HNA and a consortium made up of the Kuwait Investment Authority, Borealis Infrastructure, AIMCo, Hermes and the Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan.
It was bought by GIP 10 years ago for £750 million.
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